Question about database objetcs in forms 6i

I have to make the roles for a database so i need to know what objects in the database use a form, there is a program to do that ???
FormsApi only get the objects used by a block, but i can't get the objects used in a program unit.

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Few basic questions about database administration

Hello,
I have a few basic questions about database administration.
1. I switched one of my oracle instances to archivelog mode. I just cannot locate the archive log files on my windows system. The %ora_home%/ora92/database/archive directory is desperately empty...
2.What is the tools01.dbf datafile used for?
3.What is the undotbso1.dbf datafile used for?
Thanks in advance,
Julien.

1. The archive log location needs to be specified in your init.ora file. By default, Oracle will place the archive files in either ORACLE_HOME/dbs or ORACLE_HOME/database.
2. The tools01.dbf file belongs to the tools tablespace which should be set as the default tablespace for system. It primary purpose is to hold Oracle Forms and Reports database objects, however, it should also be used for holding other non sys database objects such as the perfstat (statspack) or other third party database schemas e.g. quests sqllab.
3. undotbs01.dbf file belongs to the undo tablespace.

Deploy form, question about database object or connection parameters

When form to be deployed to the dev/test/production environment, should it be compiled with that specific database connection username, password and sid? Another words, when I compile the database objects created for the compile is embedded in the .fmx file?
thanks for help

You won't need to compile your forms if the passwords of the target schema differs. It also doesn't matter on what platform/architecture the database server runs on. However it would matter how you created your schema objects. And of course it will matter if the platform your forms run on differ. The list of "what you need to do when you don't want to compile against the target database" is a long one.
Here is a short list of don'ts
- no +select * from [...]+ views
- no +select * from [...]+ in forms cursors and the like
- %TYPE is evil
- %ROWTYPE is much more evil
Those are just a few obvious things developers can mess up. Of course we all know that this sort of things are bad programming practice but they do happen. And as said: that's just the most obvious things. I work for a vendor where only the compiled files are shipped to the customer, and the road to this goal is a hard and bumpy one. If you don't want bad surprises in production I suggest you implement a fixed build process routine and a fixed upgrade process where you can ensure that the target database where the forms run against match exactly the development database you compile your forms from a logical point of view. The far easier exit is to just compile your forms on the target platform against the target database but I understand that this is not always possible.
cheers

Questions about using a PDF form online

I have a client who wants to create an online version of a PDF form that they are currently using. I am currently trying to explain to them that this would be best done as an HTML web form, but I may not win this argument. I have only used PDFs for printed forms (either hand-written or using form fields) so I am not familiar with any problems that converting the form for use online would entail.
When the 'Submit' button is pressed on the form, is there a way to redirect to another web page after the data is submitted? (i.e. does the PDF have access to it's outer 'environment'?)
Are there any security issues submitting data using the PDF form as opposed to using a standard web form? (There may be sensitive data being submitted)
I'm not sure how they plan to handle the data that is submitted, but there are several options in the submitForm parameters - I am assuming that using the HTML option would submit the data in the same format as a web form would. Am I correct here?
Can the PDF be prevented from being downloaded or printed? This form should only be used to submit data to their server, not as a printed form.
Are there any other 'gotchas' that I need to look out for? Does anyone have a recommendation for a site which contains any tutorials or guidelines for using PDF forms online?

Thanks for the information.
Yes, I agree that there is less reason for it to be a PDF form (Actually, no real reason other than the original form already exists in PDF), but I am unfortunately in the position that my input in this project is not necessarily being considered (my company is following direct -and inconsistent- directions from the client, and I have no contact with the client to ask questions about what their actual needs are). I have been told to give the client the 'Tomato' that they are asking for, even though they are describing an 'Apple'.
The reason this form is not meant to be printed is that we have replaced the 'Signature' fields from the original form with checkboxes that the user must check to confirm they have 'signed' the document. If they are to print/fax/whatever the document, they should use the original form, not this one. And I am still trying to explain to them that this would be better served with an HTML web form, but I fear I am losing that battle.
I have brought up the fact that it is not 100% guaranteed that Acrobat will be available in the browser, although I can only guess that it is less than likely that anyone will not have some sort of PDF viewer available to their browser.
I will also mention that issues may arise if the file is not submitted from within the browser.

A question about UDA and Data-Forms

Hi all,
I have a couple of questions about UDA. I am using Hyperion Planning 11.1.1.3m, and when I desing a Data-Form I would need to use the UDA I asigned for the Entity dimension: is that posiible?
The other question is, when creating a Substiution Variable in Essbase I use the function @UDA (+dimension+, "MemberA"), but when using this variable in the Data-Form, it does nothing at all(in fact, it is been detected as an error). Why is that happening?
Thanks a lot

Use an attribute dimension to achieve what you are trying to do with UDA's in a data form. An attribute dimension will allow you to filter on members in the base dimension by a specific attribute the same way a UDA will. You can create the attribute dimension in the dimension editor in Planning by selecting the base dimension (Entity) and then select the custom attributes' button. Check the dba guide for a step-by-step approach.
With regards to the subvar, are you trying to add the function as a value of the subvar when you create it in EAS? If so, this is not allowed. What are you trying to do with the subvar on the form? Subvars are supported in data forms as part of the member selection for a dimension. For instance, you can set up a subvar called CurYear and set the value equal to FY11 for the Fiscal Year dimension. In the data form you can set the member selection for the Fiscal Year dimension to CurYear. When the user opens the form, the member FY11 is returned.

Questions about Lulu ISBN, Tax forms, distribution, Please help

Hello,
I've wrote some poetry books and I recently added a new one.
I hope I can ask the right questions and get the most up-to-date and correct answers.
Well, I got the Free ISBN numbers from Lulu for all my books. I went for the global distribution.
I went to update one of them tonight, before I buy proof copies of them all, and go through to 'accept' the distribution.
I was going to purchase them some time this week.
But when I went to update one of them, it said my title and author's name was 'locked'.
I am worried about the whole tax forms thing, because honestly I don't know how that works, and I just wanted to write books, buy copies for my friends and family, and hopefully, if it is possible, get my books into some bookstores online or something. I don't know, just as long as people read them, I don't care so much about making money because poetry for me is great therapy and an emotional outlet.
So I guess I'm wondering:
Do I have to fill out tax forms in order to continue with the Free Lulu ISBN number and global distribution?
I don't have a lot of money to spend on distribution and I just really CANNOT do the thing with the taxes. And I don't really understand it.
I'm ashamed to have to ask these questions. I did read the terms of service and all, but I didn't know if it would really affect me or apply to me in a way where I HAD to pay anything for my books to be distributed.
I know I should have asked this before hand, that's why I'm embarassed now. Please bear with me, I'm really new to understanding this kind of stuff.
I live in the USA by the way.
Also, if I DO have to fill out tax forms in order to get the free isbn from lulu and global distribution, is there any other way I can still have my books available for people to buy without me having to fill out tax forms and all?
And would 'any other way' mean me having to start my books over again here on lulu (like, retire them and start new projects)?
Any information will help me greatly. I apologize for my ignorance of the subjects.
Thank you in advance, I greatly appreciate it.

Hi!
Thanks for replying.
My books don't sell much at all, and I don't mind. I just thought that having an ISBN would make it more available to people, along with having the global distribution. I'd like to try to give a copy to my library and another bookstore here in town, the lady that owns it has taken my brother's books before that he wrote, as well. I wasn't sure if either of them required an ISBN or not. I'll try to go talk to them sometime so I will know. My brother used Lulu for one of his books, but used ... I think it was called 'damnation publishing' or something (it was a horror novel, please excuse the name).
I understand and thank you for explaining what you did. But I have a tiny issue I might need to talk to someone in private about. I didn't really want to say it publicly.
I'm really just writing books for fun, it's a great way to get out frustrations creatively. And I've been writing poetry for years now. I just like to have a copy of my book to say to myself "I did this, I can do something with my life".
Well I'll tell just a little of my issue here... I live with my mom, I'm in my 30's and she advised me not to do the global distribution after I told her about what I read concerning taxes and all. She wants me to ... I think ... drop the ISBN and global distribution due to any taxes that will ever come with it. My aunt is into taxes for a living, and maybe she can explain it more to me.
I, too, think it will be okay since I don't sell many books (I've been publishing here on lulu since 2012 after my dad died and I still haven't sold one book... I do buy them, however, and pass them out to friends and family). But my mom sorta got scared about this when I told her about taxes.
Well, I'll just say it. I'm disabled, and I don't do taxes that I know of. My mom pays them but I don't think I do. (I've got some illnesses, I'm embarassed to say).
So that's why I was not sure about how the whole taxes thing would affect me.
I'm embarassed because I know a lot of people would look down on me because of my illnesses and maybe ask 'why are you on the internet if you're sick?' ya know. I'm very ashamed of my situation, but making books on lulu gives me something to look forward to in life. It's something I'm able to sit and do. (And I know I shouldn't worry what others think about me.)
Anyway, I apologize for giving a life background story. I just wasn't sure how or if all this would affect me at all.
I highly doubt my books will sell millions. I'm just happy to be here, and getting to do something.
Well anyway, I do greatly appreciate your answer to my questions. I really do. I'll check back in a little while to see if anyone else knows anything about these subjects.
I thank you again for your knowledge. :-)
OH, also, would it be easier for me to just set the prices of my books so I don't get any revenue? I know this may sound strange, but I just love writing. I don't mind not getting paid as long as people will read my books.

Question about Database Access

Hello,
I have one question regarding database access from Java.
What are the other ways of connecting to database other than JDBC? This was one of the question I been asked by the interviewer. He says JDBC connection can slow down the perfomance when it comes large number of transactions?
Any insight or help will be very useful.
Thanks

He may have been referring to available "persistance managers" like Hibernate or the mechanisms build into EJB containers. However, as far as I know, they all use JDBC, and any speed-up is due to caching of data as objects.

A question about database schema when creating JClient Form

Sir,
I created a JClient Form application using the wizard, in which a JCLoginDialog was generated. Then I modified the JCLoginDialog.java file so that it works with JDBC instead of with the OracleAS JAAS Provider. My name is the database schama name, and I created the form using my name.
When I log in using my name, It is fine. But when my colleague log in using her name, it is failed. The error message said that the table is not found. My colleague has access of the related database table through a database role.
I think it is the schema problem when I create the model project. I do not know how to add the schema name before the table name, such as stephen.mytable .
Please help me. Thanks
Stephen

I have solve the problem. That was a mistake I made.
Stephen

Questions about database application tables connector

Hi all,
I need to manage with OIM several databases (each one with its custom tables).
Also, one of them will be my trusted target on the initial load of users. The structure of our tables is not similar to the included in the example.
The documentation explains how the OraAppX.xml could be modified but it doesn't speak about relations with "DBTable_nonTrusted.xml" and/or "DBTable_trusted.xml" For example, if I don't have a column called USR_COMM_LANG, could I replace this column name for another that I have in my database ? And what about the references on the "DBTable_nonTrusted.xml" file. Connector doc doesn't explain how references to that field (USR_COMM_LANG---xel_usr_comm_lang) are managed by the connector and if the normal working of the connector could be affected if the name of a variable is changed in the xml conf file.
It could be that adapters of this connector were hardcoded with the referece to xel_usr_comm_lang (???) .
The connector documentation includes a section titled "Adding Custom Database Columns for Provisioning and Reconciliation". The first impression reading this document is that it is possible to extend the predefined table rather than create and define a new structure of table.
Has anyone rebuilt the "DBTable_nonTrusted.xml", "DBTable_trusted.xml" and "OraAppX.xml" files changing all default variables in order to manage a customized table? .
Many thanks in advance,
Claudia

Hi Claudia,
1) Yes, you must replace the column names in the "column" tag on your XML file for the column names that you have in your database tables. Also, remember that you need to configure the other parameters (like data_type, data_typ_size, etc) according to your database table.
2) The "xel_data_source" parameter is the attribute name that will be recognized by the OIM and they can be mapped to a form field (UD_DBAPP_XXXX) in your process definition in OIM Design Console.
3) You can customize your Database Application Tables connector for provisioning as you wish, but some issues exists. In the Known Issues section of the documentation you can see that this connector doesn't work for more than two tables.
4) To customize your Database Application Tables for Trusted Recon, there are other restrictions because OIM users have some required fields that must be filled to create a user successfully.
Hope that helps, and please let me know if you have more questions.
Regards.

Question about databases in dreamweaver cs6

Hi all,
I need to clarify that I am very new to phpmyadmin, mysql, and databases. This is what i am stucked with.
Currently, I have one table (book) which contains these attributes (ISBN(primary key), title, author, publisher, price etc) in my database (book)
I have the other table (users) which contains these attributes (username (primary key), password, name, DOB etc) in my database (user)
Let me explain the series of steps first. An user logs in on the log in page successfully, and he will be directed to the main page, then he will type or select his search terms, then the results page will display the relevant results in the master list, then he will select the specific result to go to the detailed page containing more information.
What I want now is to create a reservation page. If the user likes the specific book in the detailed page, he can click reserve it, and will be directed to the reservation page.
I intend to have these search textfields: Username, Title, Price, Number of orders.
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Do i create a relational table in phpmyadmin by linking it with the keys from tables (book and users)? Will this be a many to many relationship? I intend my third table to have these attributes (reservation no (primary key), username, title, price, no, of orders and date of collection?
Moreover, how do I auto generate the date of collection (for e.g. it will be 5 days after the point of time when the user click the submit button) in my third table ?
Thanks!

IVYY wrote:
But I still have a last question.
Now I have my Title, Price, Full Name, Email textfields all auto filled by session variables, I also have a no. of orders for the users to enter and press submit. So I only have Title, price, full name, email and no. of orders textfield in my reservation page.
My third table intends to have these attributes: Reservation Numner, Title, Price, Full Name, Email, and Date of Collection. My reservation page doesnt have the reservation and date of collection textfields. I intend to pull out these 2 data after the user press submit.
May I know what is my primary key for now? Do I use update or insert record? Correct my attributes or textfields if I am wrong. How do I go about doing this now?
I'm not quite following;
So now you have Title, Price, Full Name and Email values which you can get from the Reservations page form. What are you intending to do with it? Insert that into a table in your database?
Also what are you planning to do with the Reservation Number and Date of Collection?
As previously mentioned you can add the Collection Date to the reservations page if you want and pass it along with the rest of the data via a hidden from field if you need to.
<?php
$collectionDate = date('d-m-Y', strtotime("+5 days"));
?>
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A question about development of livecylcle forms

Hello, I have been asked to build complex static forms for a client of ours using Livecycle Designer version 8.2. The forms are static (fixed field) forms that will not interact with users in any way. We will be populating the form fields from a .NET api so there is no need for any kind of validation handling / submit buttons etc.   In that way the forms are relatively simple.
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The problem I have run into right away is I am finding my current approach very labor intensive.   Any time I want to change anything like resizing a box I have to resize all of the other boxes on the form.   As the form grows in complexity I can see the whole thing becoming a maintenance nightmare.
In short my question is this:
What is the best approach for creating complex layouts like this? As an html developer I have been used to using tables to handle complex layouts in a way that can be changed relatively easily but that approach doesn't appear to work with Adobe LiveCycle designer.
Any thoughts or insights would be very much appreciated. [Sorry about the long explanation].
Thanks in advance.

I justed wanted to say thanks for all of the help.   I think I am getting closer to an agreed approach with the client that might work.
It looks like they will be fine with me just overlaying the fields on top of the Adobe image for most of the pages just because it will take a long time to create the layout manually for each one. There is one page that is dynamic in nature because the number of table items on that page can potentially increase to any number - that part I am thinking of handling dynamically.
Basically there will be a static image for each page except the dynamic one.   When all the fields are populated I will concatenate them all together and handle the page numbers in code. [I will be using VB code with the apToolkit to handle the form data binding and concatenation of pdf images].
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Geoff.

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Hi,
Need to setup a new (Windows) user which has varied access to tables, views and procedures in about 8 different schemas all in the same database.
I've created a instance level login and then gone to the database to set the more granular details.
First question. Does this user need to own the schemas they will access?
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Thanks

In the database he has access to a number of schemas but I wish to explicitly exclude him from all views in those schemas and in addition to this all the sys catalogs, e.g
Also have no idea how to restrict access to the user created views without doing them all manually, but then what happens in the future if new views are added? They are not going to be explicitly denied.
David nailed the problem.
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This is why database design should have security in mind from the very beginning and views, being a way to access (aka "access-schema") data in tables should ideally be placed in a separate schemas
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Question about database structure - best practice

I want to create, display, and maintain a data table of loan
rates. These
rates will be for two loan categories - Conforming and Jumbo.
They will be
for two loan terms - 15year and 30year. Within each term,
there will be a
display of -
points (0, 1, 3) - rate - APR
For example -
CONFORMING
30 year
POINTS RATE APR
0 6.375 6.6
1 6.125 6.24
3 6.0 6.12
My first question is -
Would it be better to set up the database with 5 fields
(category, term,
points, rate, apr), or 13 fields (category, 30_zeropointRate,
30_onepointRate, 30_threepointRate, 30_zeropointAPR,
30_onepointAPR,
30_threepointAPR, 15_zeropointRate, 15_onepointRate,
15_threepointRate,
15_zeropointAPR, 15_onepointAPR, 15_threepointAPR)?
The latter option would mean that my table would only contain
two records -
one for each of the two categories. It seems simpler to
manage in that
regard.
Any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations?
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Thanks, Pat. I'm pretty sure that this is a dead-end
expansion. The site
itself will surely expand, but I think this particular need
will be
informational only....
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"Pat Shaw" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> But if the site ever wants to expand on it's
functionality etc. it can be
> very difficult to get round a de-normalised database.
You can find that
> you have tied yourself in knots and the only solution is
to go back and
> redesign the database which often includes major
redesigning of the
> fron-end too.
>
> If you are confident that this will not be the case then
go with your
> initial thoughts but don't be too lenient just in case.
Leave yorself a
> little scope. I always aim for 3rd normal form as this
guarantees a robust
> database design without being OTT.
>
> Pat.
>
>
> "Joris van Lier" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> news:[email protected]...
>>
>>
>> "Murray *ACE*"
<[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> I want to create, display, and maintain a data
table of loan rates.
>>> These rates will be for two loan categories -
Conforming and Jumbo.
>>> They will be for two loan terms - 15year and
30year. Within each term,
>>> there will be a display of -
>>>
>>> points (0, 1, 3) - rate - APR
>>>
>>> For example -
>>>
>>> CONFORMING
>>> 30 year
>>> POINTS RATE APR
>>> ----------- --------- ------
>>> 0 6.375 6.6
>>> 1 6.125 6.24
>>> 3 6.0 6.12
>>>
>>> My first question is -
>>>
>>> Would it be better to set up the database with 5
fields (category, term,
>>> points, rate, apr), or 13 fields (category,
30_zeropointRate,
>>> 30_onepointRate, 30_threepointRate,
30_zeropointAPR, 30_onepointAPR,
>>> 30_threepointAPR, 15_zeropointRate,
15_onepointRate, 15_threepointRate,
>>> 15_zeropointAPR, 15_onepointAPR,
15_threepointAPR)?
>>>
>>> The latter option would mean that my table would
only contain two
>>> records - one for each of the two categories. It
seems simpler to
>>> manage in that regard.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts, suggestions, recommendations?
>>
>> In my opinion, normalizing is not necessary with
small sites, for example
>> the uber-normalized database design I did for the
telcost compare matrix
>> (
http://www.artronics.nl/telcostmatrix/matrix.php
) proved to be totally
>> overkill.
>>
>> Joris
>
>

Question about Databases on a distributed environment...

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(b) Workspace, and Shared Services
(c) Essbase
(d) Planning
Now we have multiple databases for each hyperion service i.e.
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(2) BIPLUS (Using for workspace)
(3) AAS (Using for Essbase Administrator Services)
(4) CALCMGR (Using for calculation manager)
(5) EPMA (Using for EPMA)
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(7) PLANSYS (Using for Planning)
Now, my question is ....is it necessary that we have that multiple database in a distributed environment or we can have one database for everything? What is main objective for creating databases for each application?
Please share your best knowledge and give me positive and negative about multiple database and single database for hyperion...
Thanks to all...
Safi

I am going to be lazy and copy an extract from the install doc
For simplicity and ease of deployment, you can use one database repository for all products (with the exceptions noted below). When you configure multiple products at one time using EPM System Configurator, one database is configured for all selected products.
Caution!
To use a different database for each product, perform the “Configure Database” task separately for each product. In some cases you might want to configure separate databases for products. Consider performance, rollback procedures for a single application or product, and disaster recovery plans.
The following products and product components require unique databases:
Performance Management Architect interface data source
Extended Analytics for Financial Management and Extended Analytics for Strategic Finance
Planning – Each Planning application should have its own repository.
Performance Scorecard
FDM – Use an Oracle Database instance exclusively for FDM.
Data Relationship Management.
Cheers
John
http://john-goodwin.blogspot.com/

[IPCC Express] Questions about database fields

Hello,
I'm developing some reports for Cisco IPCC Express.
During the development, a lot of questions came out related to the definition of some fields:
- In ContactCallDetail, what is the difference between transfer and redirect a call?
- In ContactCallDetail, what is the difference between transfer = 1 and contactType=5? Both are related to transfering a call.
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Best Regards,
Filipe Cruz - Portugal

Where i can get that Enterprise Edition ? 
here (click) 
 
does Express edition has Web based EM ? Read the doc about Express Edition : Oracle Database 10g Express Edition 
 
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