Question about VLAN handling for virtual switches and vnets

Regards,
We are encountering some problems when using VLAN tagged 10g ethernet. We assign the VLANS to the vsw like this:
ldm add-vsw net-dev=net2 mtu=9000 vid=vid1,vid2,.... mode=sc primary-vsw0 primary
the mode=sc is due to us planning for possible Solaris Cluster installation for some guests. The guest get its vnets like this:
ldm add-vnet mode=hybrid vid=vid1 vnet0 primary-vsw0 guest
we use mode=hybrid since this is a NIU 10 gig eth interface in a T4-4. My questions are:
1. Do you see any problems with this config ?
2. Do you know of any problems with using VLAN tagging in virtual switches/virtual nets for LDOMs ?
3. When adding, subtracting VLANS to the vsw does it need to recreated or does a ldm set-vsw vid=vid1,... work dynamically (this goes of course for other vsw properties as well) ?
This is VM Server for SPARC v2.2, Solaris 11 for control and service domains, solaris 10 in the guest LDOMs.
Thanks,
Edited by: DamnGoodCoffee! on Nov 2, 2012 4:59 AM

Hi,
1.
- If you want that the vnet is handling the VLAN tagging for you, you need to set the pvid.
- If you want to do the VLAN tagging in the guest LDOM (via the interface name vnetVLANID00x), it is OK.
2. We use VLAN tagging in vnetX via setting the pvid for the vnet for guest LDOMs, and we use the interface name based VLAN tagging in the primary domain on the vsw interface.
3. You don't need to recreate, you can set it. I'm not sure if you need to reboot to let it take effect, but IIRC it is dynamic (should be easy to test).
Bye,
Alexander.

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retained,
all will be for naught unless one simple important fact is
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The thermocouple reports only what it "feels."
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this functionality existed in SharePoint 2010. Here is what I see that is new:
+The new version works better:Although I haven't tested it fully, it seems that many more features that work on the Desktop version of Access, now work in the published Web Application which is hosted by SharePoint 2013.
+The new version has fairly robust browser based forms: End users can now fill in data using forms that are rendered in the browser.
+The published version that resides in SharePoint now uses its own SQL server tables. So the engine appears to be SQL Server, not a modified version of Access built for a server. This stands to be quite robust, but I imagine
that some quirks will surface due to new model.
The limitations are:
- Access is pretty much its own application and does not integrate with SharePoint building blocks. For example, an Access table is not easy to integrate with a SharePoint workflow. Further, although Access forms now are visible
in a browser, they are not nearly as rich as InfoPath forms. InfoPath forms cannot easily integrate with the Access tables. In order to integrate SharePoint features and Access, one needs to tie SharePoint list(s) to Access as data sources.
This overcomplicates the model and one may very well run into synchronization issues.
In short, although I believe there will be some people who will be happy with newly minted Access, I do not think that Access will be able to replace InfoPath and Workflow technologies. I do agree that Microsoft does not seem to have put much energy into
InfoPath. If they leave a vacuum in this space, then others may very well take over, for instance Nintex Forms.

Although I agree with the comments made by Ruven and Marc after the conference please note that those blog posts are their own personal opinions and that they don't work for Microsoft. A lot of people have asked Microsoft to clarify the future of InfoPath
and the response up until now has been a deafening silence. In my opinion speculations about Access replacing InfoPath are premature.
I should also point out that most of your comments about Access 2013 above are actually about Access Services in SharePoint Server 2013. Access Services are NOT Access they are a shared service offering in SharePoint that convert and publish Access
databases and forms. As you point out once an Access database is published through Access services it is converted to SQL Server and no longer resides in Access. Of course I don't work for Microsoft either so these are all just my personal opinion.
Having said that I doubt you will get the confirmation/response that you are hoping for from any official Microsoft channel.
Paul Stork SharePoint Server
MVP Principal Solutions Architect: BlueChip Consulting Group
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There is a scenario about stock transfer between HU-Management and WM-Management storage location. I use transaction MB1B , movement type 313 , 315. After Good issue from WM-management storage location, outbound delivery will genarated, then Pack, Create/Confirm TO, at last post goods issue for the outboud delivery. But when i do movement type 315, there is a warning message "Data of preceding document was not transmitted", and from the F1 help i find this system reponse "You can maintain an indicator that makes information about preceding documents in this delivery available under delivery type in Customizing. For some characteristics of this indicator, the type of preceding document and the related document and item numbers must be transmitted to delivery creation. At least one of these parameters is missing.".
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