Re: Converting illustrator files to freehand

> I have been doing some design work in illustrator cs2
and need to send it to a
> colleague to amend in freehand mx.
If you 'Save As' from Illustrator as an Illustrator 8 file,
FreeHand will be
able to open that format. AI8 is a pretty basic format, so
don't expect
proprietary AI features such as live effects, symbols,
brushes, or gradient
meshes to remain editable entities in FH.
Judy Arndt

> The only files its giving us an option for is AI, PDF,
ESP, AIT, SVG and SVGA.
> Could you please let me know how to get the option up
for illustrator 8?
Select 'Adobe Illustrator' and 'Save'. Another dialog box
appears. It
provides a menu that allows you to choose the Illustrator
version number.
Judy Arndt

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    > The only files its giving us an option for is AI, PDF,
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