Re: [Re: (forte-users) formatting Percents]

You can create a Domain Class for this and manipulate the setvalue and
FillString methods to do this. You can see the help for knowing more about
this.
--Krishna
"Natarajan Balasubramanian" <[email protected]> wrote:
You may use virtual attribute mapping to your real attribute having .08 and
in the getvalue method of the virtual attribute change the real attribute
value to show as 8%.
Hope this helps,
Nat Balasubramanian.
From: "Fingerhut, Eric" <[email protected]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject: (forte-users) formatting Percents
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:26:51 -0400
I want to provide the option for a user to display values in percents or
not, and finding this surprisingly tricky.
Although its easy to make a DecimalData with a value of .08 look like 8% by
changing the scale and multiplying by its value by 100, I don't see how to
do this in a way that the variable still knows its value is .08.
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RE: (forte-users) Formatting a number

Thank you. That worked out great.
ka
-----Original Message-----
From: Thompson Ian [mailto:Ian.Thompsonicl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:35 AM
To: 'Amin, Kamran'; 'Forte User'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Formatting a number
Ka,
Try using TextFormat in combination with NumericFormat - like this:
strfmt : TextFormat = new;
numfmt : NumericFormat = new;
number : IntegerData = new;
numberastext : TextData;
numfmt.Template='L0000000';
strfmt.Template='A###-####';
number.SetValue(source = 23456);
// Format the number into a TextData.
numberastext=strfmt.FormatText(source = numfmt.FormatNumeric(source =
number));
You may have tried this already, but I hope it helps.
Regards
Iain
-----Original Message-----
From: Amin, Kamran [mailto:kamran.aminframeworkinc.com]
Sent: 18 February 2000 13:37
To: 'Forte User'
Subject: (forte-users) Formatting a number
I like to format a number as follows:
L###-#### - Where a number like 23456 would format to L002-3456.
Is there any way to do this in Forte using the NumericFormat object.
thanks in advance.
ka
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Thank you. That worked out great.
ka
-----Original Message-----
From: Thompson Ian [mailto:Ian.Thompsonicl.com]
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:35 AM
To: 'Amin, Kamran'; 'Forte User'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Formatting a number
Ka,
Try using TextFormat in combination with NumericFormat - like this:
strfmt : TextFormat = new;
numfmt : NumericFormat = new;
number : IntegerData = new;
numberastext : TextData;
numfmt.Template='L0000000';
strfmt.Template='A###-####';
number.SetValue(source = 23456);
// Format the number into a TextData.
numberastext=strfmt.FormatText(source = numfmt.FormatNumeric(source =
number));
You may have tried this already, but I hope it helps.
Regards
Iain
-----Original Message-----
From: Amin, Kamran [mailto:kamran.aminframeworkinc.com]
Sent: 18 February 2000 13:37
To: 'Forte User'
Subject: (forte-users) Formatting a number
I like to format a number as follows:
L###-#### - Where a number like 23456 would format to L002-3456.
Is there any way to do this in Forte using the NumericFormat object.
thanks in advance.
ka
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Re: (forte-users) Formatting DecimaNullable withTemplate

Hello Fabrizio,
i don't look at your window, but we has the problem to check the input of a
DecimalData
with a specific mask. If the user type in wrong data (prescale/sucscale)
then we have
to inform the user and discard the changes.
E.g. template='##,##'
User types 5,123 Exception (Too many sucscale)
User types -5,12 Exception (no Minus allowed)
User types 123, Exception (Too many prescale)
User types 12,12 No Exception (Value is accepted)
User types 12,12+ No Exception (Value is accepted)
The template check is implemented in the FillString/SetValue method of an
inherited DecimalNullable-Class. I am wondering, if it is not possible to
find a way
reacting on your behaviour. You use a Domain.
1. You have to implement the SetValue/Fillstring method for this domain.
2. You must turn on KeyStroke reacting.
3. You have to implement an EventHandler for reacting on the input which must
be registered on your Display-based Event-Loop.
4. MayBe som Code must be called from your Domain-Class on AfterValueChange
Event
at your Domain.
A lot of work, i know. Maybe a lot of code for every Domain-Use in your
Event-Loop. We
made an Enhancement-Request for our problem, but there ar no solution now
(2 years).
The next problem you may have, if you use many attributes in your Domain.
Because
the transport (Serialize/Deserialize/Allocation) eats a lot of Performance.
Direct filling from Database maybe a risk (SetValue-method with Parameter
string).
You have to check if you fill your class from implizit methods
(GetValue-Method from
DBDataSet) and so on that no code will running (Performance).
Good Luck
Joseph Mirwald
PS: Use Decode-Method if possible instead of own implementation of
string-manipulation
because Framework-Lib-Calls ar much mor performant.
At 11:19 17.02.01 +0100, Genesio, Fabrizio wrote:
Hallo there,
I wonder if there is someone who ever tried to obtain the following
behavior.
Using a user-defined domain based on a DecimalNullable, we would like to
set the input mask (and/or its template) in order to have the widget
behaving like a normal desk or pocket calculator. That is when start
typing, you enter the integer part of the number (with thousand
separator), and only when the dot is entered, you can type in the
decimal part.
We tried different templates but we never got what we want. Moreover,
using 3.0.N.0 we also discovered a bug while using as first character
in the template.
Enclosed there is a little test window.
Is there anybody who could help?
Thank you in advance for your attention
Ciao,
Fabrizio Genesio
Datasign AG für Informatik
fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch <mailto:fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch>
<<Atest.zip>>

Thank you Joseph and thank you Zenon, for your answers.
Yes, we tried with domain, implementing the FillString/Setvalue methods,
and using the Decode method. And indeed is the decode method that always
(no matter which regional settings you have) round the decimal part to 2
digit.
Nonetheless, I would be interested to receive if possible the domain you
implemented, Joseph. We may still discover something... ;-)
Thank you
Fabrizio Genesio
Datasign AG für Informatik
ch. d'Eysins 53a
CH-1260 Nyon
Switzerland
Tel.: +41 22 361 04 04
Fax: +41 22 361 01 10
e-mail: fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch
<mailto:fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch>
URL: www.datasign.ch <http://www.datasign.ch>
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Mirwald [SMTP:jomirweb.de]
Sent: Saturday, 17 February 2001 12:32
To: Genesio, Fabrizio; 'forte-userslists.xpedior.com'
Subject: Re: (forte-users) Formatting DecimaNullable with
Template
Hello Fabrizio,
i don't look at your window, but we has the problem to check the
input of a
DecimalData
with a specific mask. If the user type in wrong data
(prescale/sucscale)
then we have
to inform the user and discard the changes.
E.g. template='##,##'
User types 5,123 Exception (Too many sucscale)
User types -5,12 Exception (no Minus allowed)
User types 123, Exception (Too many prescale)
User types 12,12 No Exception (Value is
accepted)
User types 12,12+ No Exception (Value is
accepted)
The template check is implemented in the FillString/SetValue
method of an
inherited DecimalNullable-Class. I am wondering, if it is not
possible to
find a way
reacting on your behaviour. You use a Domain.
1. You have to implement the SetValue/Fillstring method for this
domain.
2. You must turn on KeyStroke reacting.
3. You have to implement an EventHandler for reacting on the
input which must
be registered on your Display-based Event-Loop.
4. MayBe som Code must be called from your Domain-Class on
AfterValueChange
Event
at your Domain.
A lot of work, i know. Maybe a lot of code for every Domain-Use
in your
Event-Loop. We
made an Enhancement-Request for our problem, but there ar no
solution now
(2 years).
The next problem you may have, if you use many attributes in
your Domain.
Because
the transport (Serialize/Deserialize/Allocation) eats a lot of
Performance.
Direct filling from Database maybe a risk (SetValue-method with
Parameter
string).
You have to check if you fill your class from implizit methods
(GetValue-Method from
DBDataSet) and so on that no code will running (Performance).
Good Luck
Joseph Mirwald
PS: Use Decode-Method if possible instead of own implementation
of
string-manipulation
because Framework-Lib-Calls ar much mor performant.
At 11:19 17.02.01 +0100, Genesio, Fabrizio wrote:
>Hallo there,
>
>I wonder if there is someone who ever tried to obtain the
following
>behavior.
>Using a user-defined domain based on a DecimalNullable, we
would like to
>set the input mask (and/or its template) in order to have the
widget
>behaving like a normal desk or pocket calculator. That is when
start
>typing, you enter the integer part of the number (with thousand
>separator), and only when the dot is entered, you can type in
the
>decimal part.
>
>We tried different templates but we never got what we want.
Moreover,
>using 3.0.N.0 we also discovered a bug while using as first
character
>in the template.
>
>Enclosed there is a little test window.
>
>Is there anybody who could help?
>
>Thank you in advance for your attention
>
>Ciao,
>
>Fabrizio Genesio
>Datasign AG für Informatik
>fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch
<mailto:fabrizio.genesiodatasign.ch>
>
> <<Atest.zip>>

RE: (forte-users) Domain Classes

Hi,
This thread coinsides with a recent posting I made on formatting percents
(attached at end).
The complication here is that the data field is part of an array field and
is:
1) editable
2) part of an array of BObjects that are mapped to the array field
There is no separation therefore between a BO and a DO, at least in the
current implementation. Furthermore, the user may or may not want percent to
be the display format. What I think I need is one field that actually has
two values, a display value and a 'true' value, and each would probably need
its own numeric format as well (one for data entry and one for display).
I've never used a domain class, but do you know if such a beast be possible?
-----Original Message-----
I want to provide the option for a user to display values in percents or
not, and finding this surprisingly tricky.
Although its easy to make a DecimalData with a value of .08 look like 8% by
changing the scale and multiplying by its value by 100, I don't see how to
do this in a way that the variable still knows its value is .08.

Jason,
Domain Classes can also store FieldWidget information associated with them.
For example, Widget type, Max Characters, Input Mask, Size Policy, Help
Text, etc. This means that when a developer adds the domain to the window
workshop it will automatically have all the settings that were previously
defined on the domain, therefore giving a standard look and feel, as well
as, behaviour(fillstring and SetValue).
Regards,
Allister
Xpedior
www.xpedior.com
Ph: +61-8-9320-7604
Fax: +61-8-9486-8650
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason de Cean [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 21 October 1999 9:30
To: 'Forte Users'
Subject: (forte-users) Domain Classes
Hi,
Can anyone tell me the advantage of using a domain class ?
We have subclassed DecimalData (FormattedDecimal) and overridden the
FillString and SetValue methods to implement other formatting. This is
then used as an attribute on our data classes and appears to work fine
when mapped to forms.
So, why would we use a Domain Class instead of just sub classing
DecimalData ?
Jace.
Jason de Cean
Genisys Team
Lumley Technology Ltd.
Lvl. 8, 55 Sussex St
Sydney, NSW 2000 Australia
Ph: 02 9248 1321
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Re: (forte-users) Minimal Fusion

Thomas,
A response which may contain no answers...and may lead to more questions...
As a novice fusion user, one of the largest obstacles to using Fusion is the lack of XML API's in an application, be it a customer's in-house or vendor's software product. Corresponding to this is simply the lack of any API's in the application. As Forte (abet Sun, now iPlanet) says in their training manual 'A nontrivial task is to build new adapters for your programs if you wish to enable them to interact using XML documents over HTTP'. This is probably an understatement.
The question that come to mind is:
Does the warehouse have published API's their product?
If not, then, IMHO, you have steep hill to climb, not the least being communication, cooperation, and coordination from the warehouse vendor (another one of those 'nontrivial tasks') in trying to create the required API's
if so, then it is a matter of building an adapter, in a language that is compatible with the warehouse's API (hopefully C or some derivation of) , that contains (1) a DOM (Document Object Module) to API Translator, (2) an XML Parser (converts XML to DOM and visa-versa) , and (3) a HTTP server (again, another one of those 'nontrivial tasks').
Forte (abet Sun, now iPlanet) suggests, and I would concur (with reservations), that if you haven't done this before you should probably hire their services from the Forte Integration Services group. Their costs (admittible high) should be offset be the time it would take to develop one on your own. A side benefit is working with them, you learn the process for making other adapters in the future. If Fusion is a marketing success, then the benefits should out weigh the costs.
The Forte Integration Services group markets, or will market, a Fusion Adapter Designer, some sort of a SDK, which assists in the creation of Adapters. I do not know the availability of that product at this time.
As to your question "Is it reasonable to consider doing this project under Fusion as a
getting-feet-wet experience?" If you (or your customer) can afford the costs, and the warehouse has published API's, I would say that you gotta get-your-feet-wet somehow. If the warehouse doesn't have published API's and are not willing to put forth the effort and resources to do so, I would say your chances of success are considerably less.
In any case, IMHO, it will be a 'non trivial' undertaking.
-later
-labeaux
"Thomas Mercer-Hursh, Ph.D." <thomascintegrity.com> 10/31/00 04:49PM >>>This may be one of those questions which has no answer, but ...
Our long term plan is to develop XML APIs to each of the modules in our
suite of non-Forte applications and to integrate these under Fusion, thus
gaining Conductor management of the inter-module work flows and a cleaner
loose coupling of the applications along with other benefits such as the
ease of integration with other packages, a clean way to migrate to Forte
modules, and an ease of interconnecting "mini-applications" to address
specific customer needs.
I have an existing customer who has made a decision to migrate to a third
party warehouse from an in-house warehouse. I.e., were this transition to
the new structure complete, this would correspond to unhooking some of our
modules and replacing these with an adapter to the corresponding modules in
the third party warehouse.
In fact, as it looks now, I will need to build the logical equivalent of
these APIs anyway -- might as well do it in XML, right? And these APIs
will communicate with a daemon responsible for the message traffic to and
from. I tried to get this traffic to be XML and to use MQSeries or JMS as
the transport, but the folks at the warehouse end don't seem to be able to
handle such things, so I am stuck doing something fairly stupid for the
actual communication.
So, the question for those out there who have already paid their Fusion
dues, is it reasonable to consider doing this project under Fusion as a
getting-feet-wet experience. There are only half a dozen APIs to do and I
have to do those anyway and am inclined to make them XML regardless. There
will be one communication daemon to which all these connect and the
business processes originally implemented in Conductor will basically be
just point to point connects, except for routing traffic from the daemon to
the right API based on message type. That's really all I need it to do,
i.e., far too simple to actually need Fusion, but a possible opportunity
to get started and then to expand to other uses.
Crazy?
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At 07:55 AM 11/1/00, Labeaux Schiek wrote:
As a novice fusion user, one of the largest obstacles to using Fusion is
the lack of XML API's in an application, be it a customer's in-house or
vendor's software product.In this case, the good news is that one of the applications in question is
our own, so whipping up an XML API to suit each required transaction on
that side is no more, probably less, work than importing or exporting a
flat file or whatever. Moreover, my current expectation of how this
interaction will work is something like this:
</pre>
---Fusion------
| |
WACS<-->WACS_Daemon<----VPN socket
connection---->IS_Daemon I/S
</pre>
I.e., I/S, our application, and the IS_Daemon which handles the connection
traffic across the internet link are both mine. For I/S, I will create XML
APIs to suit. For the IS_daemon, I might use the transform facilities to
convert this XML to the pipe-delimited format they are expected at the
other end and make the daemon a simple manager of the connection or, the
daemon could do the conversion, but the former seems like the more
appropriate approach. The API between the two daemons is something we are
defining now (unfortunately I lost the argument to make that XML).
Corresponding to this is simply the lack of any API's in the
application. As Forte (abet Sun, now iPlanet) says in their training
manual 'A nontrivial task is to build new adapters for your programs if
you wish to enable them to interact using XML documents over HTTP'.My neophyte understanding is that, since I am defining the API to I/S in
the diagram above and I can make this XML, then the adapter issue
disappears there. I might have to create an adapter for the daemon, but if
necessary, I could make that the same XML on a pass through and do the
translation in the daemon.
If not, then, IMHO, you have steep hill to climb, not the least being
communication, cooperation, and coordination from the warehouse vendor
(another one of those 'nontrivial tasks') in trying to create the required
API'sWe are well through this process anyway. ... which is not to say that it
has been or will be easy, but it must be done whether I use Fusion or
not. Given that the vote has gone in favor of simple messages of
pipe-delimited records, i.e., basically flat file, the technical issues
there are minimal.
if so, then it is a matter of building an adapter, in a language that is
compatible with the warehouse's API (hopefully C or some derivation of) ,
that contains (1) a DOM (Document Object Module) to API Translator, (2)
an XML Parser (converts XML to DOM and visa-versa) , and (3) a HTTP server
(again, another one of those 'nontrivial tasks').I'm not sure I quite understand what you are saying here. The HTTP part
won't be there since we will apparently be connecting via a VPN sockets
connection. But, how are you distinguishing DOM and XML since DOM is a
particular form of XML? The XML API I build for I/S will be DOM compliant.
Forte (abet Sun, now iPlanet) suggests, and I would concur (with
reservations), that if you haven't done this before you should probably
hire their services from the Forte Integration Services group. Their
costs (admittible high) should be offset be the time it would take to
develop one on your own. A side benefit is working with them, you learn
the process for making other adapters in the future. If Fusion is a
marketing success, then the benefits should out weigh the costs.I am familiar with the "party" line. If I were building a complete
interface to another major product (I/S is roughly equivalent to JDEC in
coverage) in the context of an EAI project, I would happily invite them in
and hope to pick up pointers. Here, though, there are only 8 or 9 total
transaction types and either all of the interfaces are XML, i.e., no
adapter required as I understand it, or only the daemon will need an
adapter and that will be a choice I can make depending on how things
go. One does wish it were possible to sample a small piece of that
knowledge store without having to buy the whole thing, though.
The Forte Integration Services group markets, or will market, a Fusion
Adapter Designer, some sort of a SDK, which assists in the creation of
Adapters. I do not know the availability of that product at this time.Last I checked, one couldn't get this without the consulting ... hence the
last sentence above.
Thanks for your input.
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Re: [(forte-users) Need help w/SQL to Informix using anarray in WHERE c

Bob.
That syntax isn't know Forte, used Dynamic SQL and coding
it dynamically. And the SQL statement exceed 255 bytes, divide in 2 or more
sentences (NameListCity1, NameListCity2, NalmeListCountry1, ...)
Try with:
NameListCity = 'city1','city2','city3'...
NalmeListCountry = 'country1','country2','country3',...
WHERE
city in (:NameListCity) and
country_code in (:NameListCountry)
Bye.
"Briggs, Bob" <Bob.Briggsmarriott.com> wrote:
I'm trying to invoke a query to Informix to select rows that match any of
the city / country pairs that exist in an array that is passed into the
method. The SQL itself seems to be OK however it appears that Forte is
having a problem in parsing the Select statement when it gets to the WHERE
clause. The resulting exception shows the SQL string formatted properly up
to the WHERE clause which ends like "WHERE city". Does anyone know of a way
to make this type of query work in a single invocation? I'm trying not to
issue multiple queries as would be the case if I used Dynamic SQL and coding
it dynamically with multiple OR statements is not really an option since the
overall length of the SQL statement cannot exceed 256 bytes. I have included
an example of the code below, any insight would be greatly appreciated.
SQL SELECT address1 tnAddress, city tnCity, state tnState, zipcode
tnZipcode,
hotel_code tnHotel_Code, name tnHotelName, product_code
tnProduct_code, loc_type tnLoc_Type,
phone tnPhone, country_code tnCountry
INTO
:po_aboLocator
FROM
Hotel
WHERE
city in :pi_aboNickNameList[*].sCityName and
country_code in :pi_aboNickNameList[*].sCountryCode
ON SESSION getDBSession();
Thank you very much,
Bob
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Bob.
That syntax isn't know Forte, used Dynamic SQL and coding
it dynamically. And the SQL statement exceed 255 bytes, divide in 2 or more
sentences (NameListCity1, NameListCity2, NalmeListCountry1, ...)
Try with:
NameListCity = 'city1','city2','city3'...
NalmeListCountry = 'country1','country2','country3',...
WHERE
city in (:NameListCity) and
country_code in (:NameListCountry)
Bye.
"Briggs, Bob" <Bob.Briggsmarriott.com> wrote:
I'm trying to invoke a query to Informix to select rows that match any of
the city / country pairs that exist in an array that is passed into the
method. The SQL itself seems to be OK however it appears that Forte is
having a problem in parsing the Select statement when it gets to the WHERE
clause. The resulting exception shows the SQL string formatted properly up
to the WHERE clause which ends like "WHERE city". Does anyone know of a way
to make this type of query work in a single invocation? I'm trying not to
issue multiple queries as would be the case if I used Dynamic SQL and coding
it dynamically with multiple OR statements is not really an option since the
overall length of the SQL statement cannot exceed 256 bytes. I have included
an example of the code below, any insight would be greatly appreciated.
SQL SELECT address1 tnAddress, city tnCity, state tnState, zipcode
tnZipcode,
hotel_code tnHotel_Code, name tnHotelName, product_code
tnProduct_code, loc_type tnLoc_Type,
phone tnPhone, country_code tnCountry
INTO
:po_aboLocator
FROM
Hotel
WHERE
city in :pi_aboNickNameList[*].sCityName and
country_code in :pi_aboNickNameList[*].sCountryCode
ON SESSION getDBSession();
Thank you very much,
Bob
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RE: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch fromForte C ursor

The reason why a single fetch of 20.000 records performs less then
2 fetches of 10.000 might be related to memory behaviour. Do you
keep the first 10.000 records in memory when you fetch the next
10.000? If not, then a single fetch of 20.000 records requires more
memory then 2 fetches of 10.000. You might have some extra over-
head of Forte requesting additional memory from the OS, garbage
collections just before every request for memory and maybe even
the OS swapping some memory pages to disk.
This behaviour can be controlled by modifying the Minimum memory
and Maximum memory of the partition, as well as the memory chunk
size Forte uses to increment its memory.
Upon partition startup, Forte requests the Minimum memory from the
OS. Whithin this area, the actual memory being used grows, until
it hits the ceiling of this space. This is when the garbage collector
kicks in and removes all unreferenced objects. If this does not suffice
to store the additional data, Forte requests 1 additional chunk of a
predefined size. Now, the same behaviour is repeated in this, slightly
larger piece of memory. Actual memory keeps growing until it hits
the ceiling, upon which the garbage collector removes all unrefer-
enced objects. If the garbage collector reduces the amount of
memory being used to below the original Miminum memory, Forte
will NOT return the additional chunk of memory to the OS. If the
garbage collector fails to free enough memory to store the new data,
Forte will request an additional chunk of memory. This process is
repeated untill the Maximum memory is reached. If the garbage
collector fails to free enough memory at this point, the process
terminates gracelessly (which is what happens sooner or later when
you have a memory leak; something most Forte developpers have
seen once or twice).
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/* All generalizations are false! */
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 6:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch from Forte
Cursor
Hello everybody:
I 'd like to ask a very important question.
I opened Forte cursor with approx 1.2 million records, and now I am trying
to figure out the number of records per fetch to obtain
the acceptable performance.
To my surprise, fetching 100 records at once gave me approx 15 percent
performance gain only in comparsion
with fetching records each by each.
I haven't found significant difference in performance fetching 100, 500
or
10.000 records at once.In the same time, fetching 20.000
records at once make a performance approx 20% worse( this fact I cannot
explain).
Does anybody have any experience in how to improve performance fetching
from
Forte cursor with big number of rows ?
Thank you in advance
Genady Yoffe
Software Engineer
Descartes Systems Group Inc
Waterloo On
Canada
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Hi Kieran,
According to your description, you are going to figure out what is the optimal number of records per partition, right? As per my understanding, this number was change by your hardware. The better hardware you have, the more number of records per partition.
The earlier version of the performance guide for SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services Performance Guide stated this:
"In general, the number of records per partition should not exceed 20 million. In addition, the size of a partition should not exceed 250 MB."
Besides, the number of records is not the primary concern here. Rather, the main criterion is manageability and processing performance. Partitions can be processed in parallel, so the more there are the more can be processed at once. However, the more partitions
you have the more things you have to manage. Here is some links which describe the partition optimization
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqlcat/archive/2009/03/13/analysis-services-partition-size.aspx
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1554201&seqNum=2
Regards,
Charlie Liao
TechNet Community Support

RE: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch fromForte Cursor

Guys,
The behavior (1 fetch of 20000 vs 2 fetches of 10000 each) may also be DBMS
related. There is potentially high overhead in opening a cursor and initially
fetching the result table. I know this covers a great deal DBMS technology
territory here but one explanation is that the same physical pages may have to
be read twice when performing the query in 2 fetches as compared to doing it in
one shot. Physical IO is perhaps the most expensive (vis a vis- resources)
part of a query. Just a thought.
"Rottier, Pascal" <[email protected]> on 11/15/99 01:34:22 PM
To: "'Forte Users'" <[email protected]>
cc: (bcc: Charlie Shell/Bsg/MetLife/US)
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch from Forte C
ursor
The reason why a single fetch of 20.000 records performs less then
2 fetches of 10.000 might be related to memory behaviour. Do you
keep the first 10.000 records in memory when you fetch the next
10.000? If not, then a single fetch of 20.000 records requires more
memory then 2 fetches of 10.000. You might have some extra over-
head of Forte requesting additional memory from the OS, garbage
collections just before every request for memory and maybe even
the OS swapping some memory pages to disk.
This behaviour can be controlled by modifying the Minimum memory
and Maximum memory of the partition, as well as the memory chunk
size Forte uses to increment its memory.
Upon partition startup, Forte requests the Minimum memory from the
OS. Whithin this area, the actual memory being used grows, until
it hits the ceiling of this space. This is when the garbage collector
kicks in and removes all unreferenced objects. If this does not suffice
to store the additional data, Forte requests 1 additional chunk of a
predefined size. Now, the same behaviour is repeated in this, slightly
larger piece of memory. Actual memory keeps growing until it hits
the ceiling, upon which the garbage collector removes all unrefer-
enced objects. If the garbage collector reduces the amount of
memory being used to below the original Miminum memory, Forte
will NOT return the additional chunk of memory to the OS. If the
garbage collector fails to free enough memory to store the new data,
Forte will request an additional chunk of memory. This process is
repeated untill the Maximum memory is reached. If the garbage
collector fails to free enough memory at this point, the process
terminates gracelessly (which is what happens sooner or later when
you have a memory leak; something most Forte developpers have
seen once or twice).
Pascal Rottier
STP - MSS Support & Coordination Group
Philip Morris Europe
e-mail: [email protected]
Phone: +49 (0)89-72472530
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Desktop Business Solutions Rotterdam
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/* All generalizations are false! */
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, November 15, 1999 6:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: (forte-users) Optimal number of records to fetch from Forte
Cursor
Hello everybody:
I 'd like to ask a very important question.
I opened Forte cursor with approx 1.2 million records, and now I am trying
to figure out the number of records per fetch to obtain
the acceptable performance.
To my surprise, fetching 100 records at once gave me approx 15 percent
performance gain only in comparsion
with fetching records each by each.
I haven't found significant difference in performance fetching 100, 500
or
10.000 records at once.In the same time, fetching 20.000
records at once make a performance approx 20% worse( this fact I cannot
explain).
Does anybody have any experience in how to improve performance fetching
from
Forte cursor with big number of rows ?
Thank you in advance
Genady Yoffe
Software Engineer
Descartes Systems Group Inc
Waterloo On
Canada
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Hi Kieran,
According to your description, you are going to figure out what is the optimal number of records per partition, right? As per my understanding, this number was change by your hardware. The better hardware you have, the more number of records per partition.
The earlier version of the performance guide for SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services Performance Guide stated this:
"In general, the number of records per partition should not exceed 20 million. In addition, the size of a partition should not exceed 250 MB."
Besides, the number of records is not the primary concern here. Rather, the main criterion is manageability and processing performance. Partitions can be processed in parallel, so the more there are the more can be processed at once. However, the more partitions
you have the more things you have to manage. Here is some links which describe the partition optimization
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/sqlcat/archive/2009/03/13/analysis-services-partition-size.aspx
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=1554201&seqNum=2
Regards,
Charlie Liao
TechNet Community Support

RE: (forte-users) Accelerator keys under MS Windows95/98/NT

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Unfortunately, ALT key is not recognized as a validkey modifier on Windows
That isn't entirely true. The ALT key is recognized. I've used it
successfully
under Windows 95 and NT. The only annoying side-effect is that you get the
standard operating system beep when you perform the keypress.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Ajith Kallambella" [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 1:43 PM
To: "[email protected]" [SMTP:[email protected]];
"[email protected]" [SMTP:[email protected]]
Subject: Re: (forte-users) Accelerator keys under MS Windows 95/98/NT
The Window class has a method named SetAsFunctionKey
and an event named FunctionKeyPress. When used
in combination, the former can be used to configure
various accelerator keys for the window widgets
and the latter can be used to trap them.
For more details, take a look at Forte online help.
Unfortunately, ALT key is not recognized as a valid
key modifier on Windows, but is only available on
Unix and VMS - for reasons beyond my comprehension :(
Hope this helps
Ajith Kallambella M.
Forte Systems Consultant.
From: "Burns, Troy" <[email protected]>
To: "'[email protected]'" <[email protected]>
Subject: (forte-users) Accelerator keys under MS Windows 95/98/NT
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:56:07 -0400
Let's say I have a pushbutton on a window and I've given it
label text of "&Search". In past developer-lives, the ampersand
is what gives the button the ability to respond to ALT-S. This
doesn't appear to be the case in Forte. What do I need to do
to make this work?
Thanks in advance,
Troy Burns
E-mail: [email protected]
Marriott Vacation Club International
941-688-7700 ext. 4408
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Hi,Beau Leo, I am having problem installing Oracle9i Database Rel.2 on my pc.
I read the suggestion and solution you posted for fixing Oracle 8.1.x installation
probblem, and since my pc also hung at 48% while installing Oracle 9i software,
I wonder if the same problem in the Oracle8 Vs.Pentium4 also exists for Oracle9i.
I have Windows2000,256RAM, Pentium3 1Ghz, and 13.8 free diskspace. But the installation always
hangs at 48%, my computer will just shut down and restart automatically without
even showing an error message. I have tried installing the Enterprise edition for 3
times already but everytime encountered the same problem. I've also tried custom installation
by selecting not to create database, but it also hung.
Before I started each installation, I always made sure that my registry and environment
path are cleared and that all the partially-installed Oracle files are deleted.
I hope that you or anyone who has a solution for this problem could be so kindly to help me out.
Thank you in advance.
ailee

RE: (forte-users) Any inputs on PutFormulas(...) method ofCrystal Repor

Hi Jagadish,
The OLE error code of 0x80020003 translates to "Member not found." This may
indicate that the parameter is not properly defined as a Parameter field in
the Crystal Report you're using.
Additionally, the date format you're using is wrong. Crystal requires that
you pass a date as "Date(yyyy, mm, dd)." Your example, then, should read:
l_tdParam : TextData = New();
l_tdParam.SetValue('Date(2000, 03, 15)');
l_CrystalRepObj.PutParameterFields(0, l_tdParam.Value);
I hope this helps.
-Katie
Katie Tierney
Akili Systems Group
601 Jefferson, Suite 3975
Houston, Texas 77002
Office: (713) 655-1400
Cell: (409) 255-1643
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low
price is forgotten" --Larry Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com [mailto:Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:11 PM
To: Katie Tierney; kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Any inputs on PutFormulas(...) method of
Crystal Report's ActiveX object
Hi Katie,
I am thankful for your time and effort.
I have a problem here. I did exactly the way you have suggested, but I get
this
exception.
SYSTEM ERROR: Error during Invoke; status code: -2147352573(0x80020003)
Class: OLEException with ReasonCode: OLE_ER_RESOURCE
Last TOOL statement: method DebugState.RaiseException
The parameter I want to set is a date type. This is the only parameter in
the
report.
First trial:
l_tdParam : TextData = New();
l_tdParam.SetValue('03/15/2000');
l_CrystalRepObj.PutParameterFields(0, l_tdParam.Value);
Second Trail:
l_dtdParam : DateTimeData = New();
l_dtdParam.SetCurrent(DR_DAY);
l_CrystalRepObj.PutParameterFields(0, l_dtdParam.TextValue.Value);
Do you think I am going wrong somewhere here. Please suggest.
Once again, I am thankful for your time and effort.
Regards,
Jagadish K Kumar
May I suggest:
1. Talk to Forte Consulting and get ReportKit. It's inexpensive, and the
Forte Consultant can help you get it set up quickly. It's a great product.
2. The following code has worked for me in the past (I have no way of
testing it now, but think it should still work):
// ptd_Parameter_Array is an ARRAY of TextData containing the
// VALUES to be placed in the parameter fields.
// Since Crystal Reports uses a zero-based array numbering
// scheme, we need to set up a counter and set its initial
// value to 0.
li_Counter : integer = 0;
for eachParam in ptd_Parameter_Array do
self.PutParameterFields(index = li_counter, param2 =
eachParam.Value);
li_Counter = li_counter + 1;
end for;
The VariantVoidResult is NIL by default, and you shouldn't need to worry
about it at all. It's the result that the Crystal OCX sends back to Forte.
The Index starts at 0, and continues to the number of parameters - 1.
The Param2 value is the string that contains the actual parameter value.
For example, if I have defined a Crystal parameter called "Country," then I
would send "USA" as the string value for param2.
I hope this helps (and I STRONGLY suggest ReportKit).
Regards,
-Katie
Katie Tierney
Akili Systems Group
601 Jefferson, Suite 3975
Houston, Texas 77002
Office: (713) 655-1400
Cell: (409) 255-1643
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low
price is forgotten" --Larry Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com [mailto:Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:43 AM
To: kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: (forte-users) Any inputs on PutFormulas(...) method of Crystal
Report's ActiveX object
Hi,
Could someone give me inputs on how to use PutFormulas(index: i2, param2:
string, _VariantVoidResult = NIL) method of Crystal ActiveX object.
I want to use this method to modify Crystal Report formulas. I would like to
know
1. index parameter - what is the domain, or expected values to this
parameter
2. param2 parameter - How to formulate this?; a sample template please;
3. _VariantVoidResult parameter - what is the significance of this
parameter?
A working example will help me a lot.
Thanks in advance.
Jagadish K Kumar

Hi Katie,
I am thankful for your time and effort.
I have a problem here. I did exactly the way you have suggested, but I get this
exception.
SYSTEM ERROR: Error during Invoke; status code: -2147352573(0x80020003)
Class: OLEException with ReasonCode: OLE_ER_RESOURCE
Last TOOL statement: method DebugState.RaiseException
The parameter I want to set is a date type. This is the only parameter in the
report.
First trial:
l_tdParam : TextData = New();
l_tdParam.SetValue('03/15/2000');
l_CrystalRepObj.PutParameterFields(0, l_tdParam.Value);
Second Trail:
l_dtdParam : DateTimeData = New();
l_dtdParam.SetCurrent(DR_DAY);
l_CrystalRepObj.PutParameterFields(0, l_dtdParam.TextValue.Value);
Do you think I am going wrong somewhere here. Please suggest.
Once again, I am thankful for your time and effort.
Regards,
Jagadish K Kumar
May I suggest:
1. Talk to Forte Consulting and get ReportKit. It's inexpensive, and the
Forte Consultant can help you get it set up quickly. It's a great product.
2. The following code has worked for me in the past (I have no way of
testing it now, but think it should still work):
// ptd_Parameter_Array is an ARRAY of TextData containing the
// VALUES to be placed in the parameter fields.
// Since Crystal Reports uses a zero-based array numbering
// scheme, we need to set up a counter and set its initial
// value to 0.
li_Counter : integer = 0;
for eachParam in ptd_Parameter_Array do
self.PutParameterFields(index = li_counter, param2 =
eachParam.Value);
li_Counter = li_counter + 1;
end for;
The VariantVoidResult is NIL by default, and you shouldn't need to worry
about it at all. It's the result that the Crystal OCX sends back to Forte.
The Index starts at 0, and continues to the number of parameters - 1.
The Param2 value is the string that contains the actual parameter value.
For example, if I have defined a Crystal parameter called "Country," then I
would send "USA" as the string value for param2.
I hope this helps (and I STRONGLY suggest ReportKit).
Regards,
-Katie
Katie Tierney
Akili Systems Group
601 Jefferson, Suite 3975
Houston, Texas 77002
Office: (713) 655-1400
Cell: (409) 255-1643
"The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low
price is forgotten" --Larry Anderson
-----Original Message-----
From: Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com [mailto:Jagadish_Kumarnacre.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2000 9:43 AM
To: kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: (forte-users) Any inputs on PutFormulas(...) method of Crystal
Report's ActiveX object
Hi,
Could someone give me inputs on how to use PutFormulas(index: i2, param2:
string, _VariantVoidResult = NIL) method of Crystal ActiveX object.
I want to use this method to modify Crystal Report formulas. I would like to
know
1. index parameter - what is the domain, or expected values to this
parameter
2. param2 parameter - How to formulate this?; a sample template please;
3. _VariantVoidResult parameter - what is the significance of this
parameter?
A working example will help me a lot.
Thanks in advance.
Jagadish K Kumar

RE: (forte-users) What could have caused the StopWatch classto r eturn

Attila
1. Ops - I DO instantiate it as follows:
[snip]
sw : StopWatch = new;
[snip]
I missed the "= new" in the orig mail message (cut/past from wrong
workspace).
2. LogWriter(deltaT:integer, t1:DateTimeData, t2:DateTimeData)
[snip]
task.part.logmgr.put('| ');
task.part.logmgr.put(deltaT);
task.part.logmgr.put(' | ');
task.part.logmgr.put(t1);
task.part.logmgr.put(' | ');
task.part.logmgr.put(t2);
task.part.logmgr.putline(' |');
[snip]
OK, it's just a quick 'n dirty but it does the job for testing.
Regards,
Dirk
-----Original Message-----
From: Attila Rácz [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 7 October 1999 14:35
To: Haben, Dirk
Subject: Re: (forte-users) What could have caused the
StopWatch class to
return a negative v alue?
Hi Dirk,
1. You don't instantiate the StopWatch object!!! So the
attached code have to
throw a NIL exception. On my PC it does:
"Trying to invoke a method on a NIL object (qqos_StopWatch, 1)."
2. Send the whole LogWriter method for analyzing.
Attila
"Haben, Dirk" wrote:
G'day
Suppose the following output is produced:
Loaded Forte Message Catalog 'fortemsg/en_us.cat'
NLM Startup is Complete - Partition's Locale is 'c'
Loading partition CollectResponseStatistics_cl0_Client built on 30-Sep-1999
09:12:28.
Attached to manager for node BLAH.
%DiH-I-VERID: CollectResponseStatistics_v371.002
%DiH-I-BGP, BGP Started...
%DiH-I, Repeat Interval (in milliseconds) 300000
%DiH-I, Sample Account Number: 123456
%DiH-I-BGPSTART, BackgroundProcessing started at: 07-Oct-1999 08:54:16
| Total Time | Account Fetch | Account Fetch |
| in milliSeconds | Start Time | Completion Time |
|-----------------|----------------------|----------------------|
| -194 | 07-Oct-1999 08:54:16 | 07-Oct-1999 08:54:17 |
What could cause the stopwatch class to return this negative value? Here is
the code that is run:
sw : StopWatch;
//that line is actual as follows:
sw : StopWatch = new;
//*****[Dirk]
>>
BP_t1 : DateTimeData = new;
BP_t2 : DateTimeData = new;
BP_t1.SetCurrent();
self.LogWriter('%DiH-I-BGPSTART, BackgroundProcessing started at: ',BP_t1);
self.LogWriterHeading();
tmpAcc : account = new;
sw.fire();
BP_t1.SetCurrent();
tmpAcc = self.AccountFetch(aAccountNumber);
BP_t2.SetCurrent();
deltaT : Integer = sw.split();
self.LogWriter(deltaT,BP_t1,BP_t2);
Oh, and the logwriter is just a formatted logmgr.put(deltaT) ,
logmgr.put(t1) etc
Any light on this one much appreciated.
Thanks,
Dirk
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Attila
1. Ops - I DO instantiate it as follows:
[snip]
sw : StopWatch = new;
[snip]
I missed the "= new" in the orig mail message (cut/past from wrong
workspace).
2. LogWriter(deltaT:integer, t1:DateTimeData, t2:DateTimeData)
[snip]
task.part.logmgr.put('| ');
task.part.logmgr.put(deltaT);
task.part.logmgr.put(' | ');
task.part.logmgr.put(t1);
task.part.logmgr.put(' | ');
task.part.logmgr.put(t2);
task.part.logmgr.putline(' |');
[snip]
OK, it's just a quick 'n dirty but it does the job for testing.
Regards,
Dirk
-----Original Message-----
From: Attila Rácz [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, 7 October 1999 14:35
To: Haben, Dirk
Subject: Re: (forte-users) What could have caused the
StopWatch class to
return a negative v alue?
Hi Dirk,
1. You don't instantiate the StopWatch object!!! So the
attached code have to
throw a NIL exception. On my PC it does:
"Trying to invoke a method on a NIL object (qqos_StopWatch, 1)."
2. Send the whole LogWriter method for analyzing.
Attila
"Haben, Dirk" wrote:
G'day
Suppose the following output is produced:
Loaded Forte Message Catalog 'fortemsg/en_us.cat'
NLM Startup is Complete - Partition's Locale is 'c'
Loading partition CollectResponseStatistics_cl0_Client built on 30-Sep-1999
09:12:28.
Attached to manager for node BLAH.
%DiH-I-VERID: CollectResponseStatistics_v371.002
%DiH-I-BGP, BGP Started...
%DiH-I, Repeat Interval (in milliseconds) 300000
%DiH-I, Sample Account Number: 123456
%DiH-I-BGPSTART, BackgroundProcessing started at: 07-Oct-1999 08:54:16
| Total Time | Account Fetch | Account Fetch |
| in milliSeconds | Start Time | Completion Time |
|-----------------|----------------------|----------------------|
| -194 | 07-Oct-1999 08:54:16 | 07-Oct-1999 08:54:17 |
What could cause the stopwatch class to return this negative value? Here is
the code that is run:
sw : StopWatch;
//that line is actual as follows:
sw : StopWatch = new;
//*****[Dirk]
>>
BP_t1 : DateTimeData = new;
BP_t2 : DateTimeData = new;
BP_t1.SetCurrent();
self.LogWriter('%DiH-I-BGPSTART, BackgroundProcessing started at: ',BP_t1);
self.LogWriterHeading();
tmpAcc : account = new;
sw.fire();
BP_t1.SetCurrent();
tmpAcc = self.AccountFetch(aAccountNumber);
BP_t2.SetCurrent();
deltaT : Integer = sw.split();
self.LogWriter(deltaT,BP_t1,BP_t2);
Oh, and the logwriter is just a formatted logmgr.put(deltaT) ,
logmgr.put(t1) etc
Any light on this one much appreciated.
Thanks,
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RE: forte-users-digest Digest V00 #186

Just a follow up to the TIFF Problem.
Try using the WANG Image edit control (supports 32-bit OLE) Copyright
Wang Laboratories, Inc. 1995-1996..
It should be available free on the net or if you have Microsoft Visual
Studio 6.0 it comes with it. make sure you make the control invisible so
that it does not show up.
- Ravi.
Intel Corporation.
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Hi,
The only work around I can see to your problem is to convert the TIFF
to
any other format that forte supports. You could use Microsoft's Image
Composer to do this. As far as I can see your requirement is runtime. I
would suggest using Windows imaging ( an image edit control, that is an
active-x control ). Use this control to perform a SaveAs operation on the
TIFF file to save it as a GIF and then use the converted GIF to place it
in
your Forte Object. I know it works in C++ so it should surely work in
forte too. I don't have the documentation for the image edit control,
but
Iam sure there are lot of similar controls out there . And make sure
you
save the file in a format that supports mutiple page formats. ( i.e
prefer
GIF to BMP when you convert)
Hope this Helps,
- Ravi Balakrishna
Automation Software Engineer
Intel Corporation.
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Subject: Tiff images again.....
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I need to place TIFF images in a Forte Object to display on a client
window.
Does anyone have any tips or code that you would be willing to sharethat
can help me do that. I checked with Forte the other day and found theydo
not support the TIFF format.
Thanks much,
Gail Jones
EDS Medi-Cal
Sacramento, Ca.
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #185
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:34:01 -0600
From: joe.wolfesasktel.sk.ca
To: kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: Intermittent database problems
Message-Id: <062568E2.00500AC5.00regn0683nt.sasktel.sk.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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We have a Forte server running on HP_UX 10.2. It connects to an Oracle
database
on AIX. Over the past several months we have received intermittent
failures
that neither we nor our Oracle support team have been able to resolve
(example
below). Prior to the error occuring the partition can be operating
successfully for several days. When this error occurs the IsConnected
instrument on the DBSession is still shown as TRUE, and there are no error
counts on the instruments. After cycling the partition everything runs
fine for
between a day and a month. If anybody has a resolution, or even a good
hunch
I'd appreciate hearing it.
Attached to manager for node capri.
SYSTEM ERROR: OpenCursor failed for SQL statement in project CTISvcs,
class
LookUpInfoMgr, method LoadAgent, methodId 4, line 55, error from
database is:
ORA-02019: connection description for remote database not found
Class: qqdb_ResourceException
Detected at: qqdb_OracleVendorInfo::DoOexn
Error Time: Wed May 17 07:42:42
Oracle error: 2019, Server: DBP13, UserName: forte_c3
Database Statement: select a.cctr_agt_id CareCentreAgentID , a.emp_id
EmployeeID , a.eff_fr_dat EffectiveFromDate , a.eff_to_dat
EffectiveToDate
, a.cctr_agt_gr_id CareCentreGroupID , RTrim ( InitCap ( b.fst_nm )
EmployeeFirstName , RTrim ( InitCap ( b.srnm ) ) EmployeeLastName
from
t_cctr_agt a , t_emp b where a.emp_id = b.emp_id
Exception occurred (locally) on partition "TServRM1_cl0_Part2",
(partitionId = A5E41FA0-D91F-11D3-8F7D-FFCBBA23AA77:0x31d, taskId =
[A5E41FA0-D91F-11D3-8F7D-FFCBBA23AA77:0x320.777]) in application
"TServRM1_cl0", pid 24249 on node capri in environment prodenv.
TIA,
Joe Wolfe, External Programmer Analyst
SaskTel
email: joe.wolfesasktel.sk.ca
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #186

Just a follow up to the TIFF Problem.
Try using the WANG Image edit control (supports 32-bit OLE) Copyright
Wang Laboratories, Inc. 1995-1996..
It should be available free on the net or if you have Microsoft Visual
Studio 6.0 it comes with it. make sure you make the control invisible so
that it does not show up.
- Ravi.
Intel Corporation.
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Hi,
The only work around I can see to your problem is to convert the TIFF
to
any other format that forte supports. You could use Microsoft's Image
Composer to do this. As far as I can see your requirement is runtime. I
would suggest using Windows imaging ( an image edit control, that is an
active-x control ). Use this control to perform a SaveAs operation on the
TIFF file to save it as a GIF and then use the converted GIF to place it
in
your Forte Object. I know it works in C++ so it should surely work in
forte too. I don't have the documentation for the image edit control,
but
Iam sure there are lot of similar controls out there . And make sure
you
save the file in a format that supports mutiple page formats. ( i.e
prefer
GIF to BMP when you convert)
Hope this Helps,
- Ravi Balakrishna
Automation Software Engineer
Intel Corporation.
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I need to place TIFF images in a Forte Object to display on a client
window.
Does anyone have any tips or code that you would be willing to sharethat
can help me do that. I checked with Forte the other day and found theydo
not support the TIFF format.
Thanks much,
Gail Jones
EDS Medi-Cal
Sacramento, Ca.
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #185
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 08:34:01 -0600
From: joe.wolfesasktel.sk.ca
To: kamranaminyahoo.com
Subject: Intermittent database problems
Message-Id: <062568E2.00500AC5.00regn0683nt.sasktel.sk.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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We have a Forte server running on HP_UX 10.2. It connects to an Oracle
database
on AIX. Over the past several months we have received intermittent
failures
that neither we nor our Oracle support team have been able to resolve
(example
below). Prior to the error occuring the partition can be operating
successfully for several days. When this error occurs the IsConnected
instrument on the DBSession is still shown as TRUE, and there are no error
counts on the instruments. After cycling the partition everything runs
fine for
between a day and a month. If anybody has a resolution, or even a good
hunch
I'd appreciate hearing it.
Attached to manager for node capri.
SYSTEM ERROR: OpenCursor failed for SQL statement in project CTISvcs,
class
LookUpInfoMgr, method LoadAgent, methodId 4, line 55, error from
database is:
ORA-02019: connection description for remote database not found
Class: qqdb_ResourceException
Detected at: qqdb_OracleVendorInfo::DoOexn
Error Time: Wed May 17 07:42:42
Oracle error: 2019, Server: DBP13, UserName: forte_c3
Database Statement: select a.cctr_agt_id CareCentreAgentID , a.emp_id
EmployeeID , a.eff_fr_dat EffectiveFromDate , a.eff_to_dat
EffectiveToDate
, a.cctr_agt_gr_id CareCentreGroupID , RTrim ( InitCap ( b.fst_nm )
EmployeeFirstName , RTrim ( InitCap ( b.srnm ) ) EmployeeLastName
from
t_cctr_agt a , t_emp b where a.emp_id = b.emp_id
Exception occurred (locally) on partition "TServRM1_cl0_Part2",
(partitionId = A5E41FA0-D91F-11D3-8F7D-FFCBBA23AA77:0x31d, taskId =
[A5E41FA0-D91F-11D3-8F7D-FFCBBA23AA77:0x320.777]) in application
"TServRM1_cl0", pid 24249 on node capri in environment prodenv.
TIA,
Joe Wolfe, External Programmer Analyst
SaskTel
email: joe.wolfesasktel.sk.ca
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #186

Re: (forte-users) FW: (forte-users) Serialisation

Here is a Word formatted copy of the Tech Note
"Slabbert, Etienne" <etiennemds.co.za> 02/17/00 04:10AM >>>Hi,
I cannot get hold of Tech Note 10398..... can anyone email me a copy?
Tx
Etienne
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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:26 PM
To: 'Jason de Cean'; 'Forte Users'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Serialisation
There are a number of flags that will show you some of the required
information in a log file (not within the application itself). Technote
10398 has many more flags listed for a variety of obscure, useful, not so
useful and exotic information:
trc:cm:*:4 and *:8 - show packet serialisation, open, closes between
partition communication
trc:do:*:2 - proxy creation/deletion, exception events
trc:do:*:5 - individual message tracing between proxies
trc:do:*:8 - serialisation information
Theo
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"Slabbert, Etienne" <etiennemds.co.za> 02/17/00 04:10AM >>>Hi,
I cannot get hold of Tech Note 10398..... can anyone email me a copy?
Tx
Etienne
-----Original Message-----
From: Klerk, Theo de [SMTP:Theo.de.Klerkcompaq.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:26 PM
To: 'Jason de Cean'; 'Forte Users'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Serialisation
There are a number of flags that will show you some of the required
information in a log file (not within the application itself). Technote
10398 has many more flags listed for a variety of obscure, useful, not so
useful and exotic information:
trc:cm:*:4 and *:8 - show packet serialisation, open, closes between
partition communication
trc:do:*:2 - proxy creation/deletion, exception events
trc:do:*:5 - individual message tracing between proxies
trc:do:*:8 - serialisation information
Theo
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RE: (forte-users) Serialisation

Singh,
Any message sent across partition boundaries is serialized. This includes
method invokations, events and exceptions. The signature of the message
itself is serialized, as well as the values of all parameters/attributes.
Serializing a scalar value requires less overhead then serialising an
object, however, the difference isn't as big as you might think. Objects
have more attributes then just the value you're interested in and these
attributes are serialised as well. Each object is an instance of a class and
each class has a UUID, which is added to the serialized stream as well.
However, methods are NOT serialised. What happens is this. Forte serializes
an object into a stream containing only the values of the attributes
(including nested attributes). This stream is given a header which sais of
which class this object is an instance (the UUID is used for that). The
receiving partition reads the serialized stream, finds the definition of the
class (defined by UUID) in its own code, creates an instance of this class
and fills the data out of the serialized stream into this new object.
You can imagine what might happen if there is a mismatch between the
class-definitions in both partitions. You either get
serialization-deserialization errors, or the receiving partition complains
that it doesn't even know the UUID of the received streamed object, or you
get no errors at all and just have an object that displays different
behaviour, depending what partition it's in.
If there are no problems, then the main issue is the
serializing-deserializing overhead. Note that the receiving partition has to
instantiate a new object for every serialized object it receives and will
therefore execute all code in the Init() method. This overhead is not
required for scalar types, for which Forte only needs to reserve a small
amount of memory space on the stack.
Any call to a database is also a message sent across partitions and is
therefore serialized. However, one partition is a Forte partition and the
other one isn't. Therefore, Forte's internal serialization mechanism isn't
used. Forte serializes the SQL-query into a format understood by the
database (which is different for every vendor). Forte then receives a stream
back which has a different format for every different database type. This
stream is deserialized and written to attributes that Forte has reserved to
contain the data. Whether these are scalar, datavalues or domains only
impacts performance inside the Forte partition. It has no effect on the
communication with the database.
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
Fax. +31 (0)10-2661199
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-----Original Message-----
From: Singh [mailto:fortelistyahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 3:30 AM
To: forte-userslists.xpedior.com
Subject: (forte-users) Serialisation
Hello All
I have a question that has been bugging me for some
time.
We all know that it is better to use scalar data
types, as opposed to objects, when passing data across
a network.
The reason, if I understand correctly, is that when
you send an object across a network, the whole object
(properties, attributes and methods) is deserialised
into zero's and one's before being sent across and
then serialised back into the object when it gets to
the other side. This would take longer for an object
since for a scalar value, just the value is
deserialised and serialised.
But when you are writing to a database from the tier
before the database to the database, does it matter
what type you use. The reason for saying this is that
the values are serialised before they go across and
then deserialised when they get to the base, in other
words, they are sent as zero's and one's. For a scalar
- just the value is sent across but for an object -
does just the value go across or the complete object.
If just the value of the object goes across, then it
doesn't really matter whether a scalar or object is
sent across.
Am I correct in this assumption.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Regards,
Singh
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Hi,
I cannot get hold of Tech Note 10398..... can anyone email me a copy?
Tx
Etienne
-----Original Message-----
From: Klerk, Theo de [SMTP:Theo.de.Klerkcompaq.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 4:26 PM
To: 'Jason de Cean'; 'Forte Users'
Subject: RE: (forte-users) Serialisation
There are a number of flags that will show you some of the required
information in a log file (not within the application itself). Technote
10398 has many more flags listed for a variety of obscure, useful, not so
useful and exotic information:
trc:cm:*:4 and *:8 - show packet serialisation, open, closes between
partition communication
trc:do:*:2 - proxy creation/deletion, exception events
trc:do:*:5 - individual message tracing between proxies
trc:do:*:8 - serialisation information
Theo
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RE: forte-users-digest Digest V00 #185

Hi,
The only work around I can see to your problem is to convert the TIFF to
any other format that forte supports. You could use Microsoft's Image
Composer to do this. As far as I can see your requirement is runtime. I
would suggest using Windows imaging ( an image edit control, that is an
active-x control ). Use this control to perform a SaveAs operation on the
TIFF file to save it as a GIF and then use the converted GIF to place it in
your Forte Object. I know it works in C++ so it should surely work in
forte too. I don't have the documentation for the image edit control, but
Iam sure there are lot of similar controls out there . And make sure you
save the file in a format that supports mutiple page formats. ( i.e prefer
GIF to BMP when you convert)
Hope this Helps,
- Ravi Balakrishna
Automation Software Engineer
Intel Corporation.
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To: forte-users-digestlists.xpedior.com
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forte-users-digest Digest Volume 00 : Issue
185
Today's Topics:
Tiff images again.....
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:25 -0400
From: "Jones, Gail A" <gail.joneseds.com>
To: "'kamranaminyahoo.com'" <kamranaminyahoo.com>
Subject: Tiff images again.....
Message-ID: <F455E4114C4AD211BCDF00805F31BCF305C206DCUSSAM203>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
I need to place TIFF images in a Forte Object to display on a client
window.
Does anyone have any tips or code that you would be willing to share that
can help me do that. I checked with Forte the other day and found they do
not support the TIFF format.
Thanks much,
Gail Jones
EDS Medi-Cal
Sacramento, Ca.
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #185

Hi,
The only work around I can see to your problem is to convert the TIFF to
any other format that forte supports. You could use Microsoft's Image
Composer to do this. As far as I can see your requirement is runtime. I
would suggest using Windows imaging ( an image edit control, that is an
active-x control ). Use this control to perform a SaveAs operation on the
TIFF file to save it as a GIF and then use the converted GIF to place it in
your Forte Object. I know it works in C++ so it should surely work in
forte too. I don't have the documentation for the image edit control, but
Iam sure there are lot of similar controls out there . And make sure you
save the file in a format that supports mutiple page formats. ( i.e prefer
GIF to BMP when you convert)
Hope this Helps,
- Ravi Balakrishna
Automation Software Engineer
Intel Corporation.
-----Original Message-----
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forte-users-digest Digest Volume 00 : Issue
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Tiff images again.....
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 11:07:25 -0400
From: "Jones, Gail A" <gail.joneseds.com>
To: "'kamranaminyahoo.com'" <kamranaminyahoo.com>
Subject: Tiff images again.....
Message-ID: <F455E4114C4AD211BCDF00805F31BCF305C206DCUSSAM203>
Content-Type: text/plain;
charset="iso-8859-1"
I need to place TIFF images in a Forte Object to display on a client
window.
Does anyone have any tips or code that you would be willing to share that
can help me do that. I checked with Forte the other day and found they do
not support the TIFF format.
Thanks much,
Gail Jones
EDS Medi-Cal
Sacramento, Ca.
End of forte-users-digest Digest V00 Issue #185

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