Re: Why doesn't WL7.0 support get/post bindings for web services ...

hi!!!
Could you pls point to any code example.
thanks
Pushpa
"Richard Berger" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
Manoj: Thanks for the answer - do you have or can you point me at any
code samples
that accomplish this? (Yes, .NET is limited to strings/ints in their
get/post
bindings).
Thanks so much!
RB
PS - Also, can you explain any apparent discrepancy between your answer
and what
the WL documentation stated (again, it may be my misunderstanding).
"manoj cheenath" <[email protected]> wrote:
WL 7.0 does allow you to access the web service through
the browser. It even allows you to invoke service methods
with complex type arguments (.Net only supports primitive
types) and also to view the request and response soap
message for the invocation.
regards,
-manoj
"Richard Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
This might be a naive question, but according to the documentation,WL 7.0
does
not support http post/get bindings for web services. Thus, for meto
access a
web service, I need to write a "middle tier" of some sort (I used
the
automatically
generated Java proxy code and JSP). All works fine, but it seems
like
it
would
sure be nice to have HTML forms access web services without havingto
write a
middle tier.
NET does this and it is extremely useful - is there a reason that
BEA
chose not
to provide this feature? (e.g. is it architecturally unsound in anyway?
or is
there an easy way to simulate it?). Given some of the Web Workshoppositioning
re: ease of use and .NET comparison, this seems like an omission.
Any insights are greatly appreciated.
Enjoy,
RB
PS - Here's the info from the documentation
Web Services Description Language (WSDL) 1.1 Specification
WSDL is an XML-based language that describes Web services. WSDL definesWeb services
as a set of endpoints operating on messages; these message containeither
message-style
or RPC-style information. The operations and messages are describedabstractly
in WSDL, and then bound to a concrete network protocol and messageformat
to define
an endpoint. Related concrete endpoints are combined into abstractendpoints (services).
WSDL is extensible to allow the description of endpoints and theirassociated
messages regardless of what message formats or network protocols areused
to communicate,
however, the only bindings described in the specification describehow to
use
WSDL in conjunction with SOAP 1.1, HTTP GET/POST, and MIME.
Note: WebLogic Server supports only SOAP 1.1 bindings.
The WSDL 1.1 Specification is available at http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl.

This isn't a straight FORM Post as in the http binding support in WSDL. It posts
a soap message.
It's apparent that Workshop supports form-post and form-get.
But I dont see how it is done with straight WebLogic webservices. Does WebLogic
server read the web-services.xml or the WSDL file? I dont see a way to put in
http-post binding in the former and in the latter it seems to be ignored.
Can someone clarify.
Thanks.
Chu-chi
"manoj cheenath" <[email protected]> wrote:
Here is a live example:
http://65.193.192.35:7001/base/SoapInteropBaseService
Here is an example that you can download:
http://manojc.com/?sample2
This is how you run it:
http://manojc.com/?tutorial/doc/howtorun.html
More info can be found from the edocs:
7.0:
http://edocs.bea.com/wls/docs70/webserv/index.html
8.1:
http://edocs.bea.com/wls/docs81/webserv/index.html
Regards,
-manoj
http://manojc.com
"pushpa krishna" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
hi!!!
Could you pls point to any code example.
thanks
Pushpa
"Richard Berger" <[email protected]> wrote:
Manoj: Thanks for the answer - do you have or can you point me at
any
code samples
that accomplish this? (Yes, .NET is limited to strings/ints in their
get/post
bindings).
Thanks so much!
RB
PS - Also, can you explain any apparent discrepancy between your answer
and what
the WL documentation stated (again, it may be my misunderstanding).
"manoj cheenath" <[email protected]> wrote:
WL 7.0 does allow you to access the web service through
the browser. It even allows you to invoke service methods
with complex type arguments (.Net only supports primitive
types) and also to view the request and response soap
message for the invocation.
regards,
-manoj
"Richard Berger" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
This might be a naive question, but according to the documentation,WL 7.0
does
not support http post/get bindings for web services. Thus, for
me
to
access a
web service, I need to write a "middle tier" of some sort (I used
the
automatically
generated Java proxy code and JSP). All works fine, but it seems
like
it
would
sure be nice to have HTML forms access web services without havingto
write a
middle tier.
NET does this and it is extremely useful - is there a reason that
BEA
chose not
to provide this feature? (e.g. is it architecturally unsound in
any
way?
or is
there an easy way to simulate it?). Given some of the Web Workshoppositioning
re: ease of use and .NET comparison, this seems like an omission.
Any insights are greatly appreciated.
Enjoy,
RB
PS - Here's the info from the documentation
Web Services Description Language (WSDL) 1.1 Specification
WSDL is an XML-based language that describes Web services. WSDL
defines
Web services
as a set of endpoints operating on messages; these message containeither
message-style
or RPC-style information. The operations and messages are describedabstractly
in WSDL, and then bound to a concrete network protocol and messageformat
to define
an endpoint. Related concrete endpoints are combined into abstractendpoints (services).
WSDL is extensible to allow the description of endpoints and theirassociated
messages regardless of what message formats or network protocols
are
used
to communicate,
however, the only bindings described in the specification describehow to
use
WSDL in conjunction with SOAP 1.1, HTTP GET/POST, and MIME.
Note: WebLogic Server supports only SOAP 1.1 bindings.
The WSDL 1.1 Specification is available at http://www.w3.org/TR/wsdl.

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