Redefining style

When trying to follow the Apple instructions to redefine a style I get to this instruction.
In the Styles drawer, click the red arrow next to the style name and choose Redefine Style from Selection from the pop-up menu.
However the Redefine Style option is greyed out. Any ideas?
Here are the full instructions
Modify an existing style
Select text that uses the style you want to modify.
Format the text the way you want the modified style to look.
In the Styles drawer, click the red arrow next to the style name and choose Redefine Style from Selection from the pop-up menu.

For example, I want to set base line shift in a paragraph style called "Body Text" to -1.
var myDoc = app.activeDocument;
var myParStyle = myDoc.paragraphStyles.item("Body Text");
myParStyle.baselineShift = -1;
Kasyan

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