Returns Excise FI entry is wrong

Hi All,
Issue : Kindly help to understand why Returns Excise entry is wrong?
Other details:I have created sales invoice and excise invoice for 40 qty and created returns invoice and Return excise invoice with J1is t code for qty of 20:
1. VA01->VL01n->VF01->J1IIN
2. VA01( returns order with ref Invoice)->VL01N/2n ( PGR)-> VF01(credit for returns)->J1IS Returns for Excise using other adjustments( OTHR).
If you observe the below posting key of 221154 in below 4 transactions :
If you observe the 2nd and 4th screen shots, the 4th entry should be reverse to 2nd screen shot entry but here both are same which is not correct. As per me I feel the Posting key is making this difference if you we can correct this instead of Debit it will Credit this would be fine i think
GL accounts numbers are same need NOT to change GL number the only change the same GL account in 4th screen shot should be reverse.
Please let me know what action i should take to correct the 4th screen shot entry( return excise)?
thanks,

Hi Surya,
Am not much familiar with CIN process hence am asking the clarification of Why J1IS is not and Why j1IH is for customer returns Excise invoice creation kindly clarify and also have read in some threads which suggested that J1IH is for customer returns.
J1IS is outgoing manual Excise invoice same accounts are hit like J1IIN
Cenvat Suspense Account Dr.
Cenvat payable Cr.
J1IH is Manual Excise JV used for incoming as well as outgoing Excise Invoice.
In J1IH "Additional Excise" is for incoming Excise Invoice(Returns from customer) and "Other adj." is for Outgoing Excise Invoice.
For more understanding refer these FAQ notes
535616
- FAQ: Country Version India (CIN) General SD queries
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- FAQ: Country Version India (CIN) General MM queries
1559435 - FAQ - Frequently asked question - Sales
Regards
Binoy

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