Round-trip database design

Hi,
Maybe not 100% the right mailing list but it's worth a try.
Does anyone use tools to automatically update the structure of an existing
database?
For example, you have a full database model (Power Designer) and you've
created a script to create all these tables in a new and empty database.
You've been using this database and filling tables with data for a while.
Now you want to do some marginal modifications on these tables. Add a
column, remove a column, rename a column, etc.
Is there a way to automatically change the database without losing data and
without having to do it manually (except the manual changes in the (Power
Designer) model).
Thanks
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
Fax. +31 (0)10-2661199
E-mail: Pascal.Rottiernl.origin-it.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Morris (Afd. MIS)
Tel. +31 (0)164-295149
Fax. +31 (0)164-294444
E-mail: Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch

Hello Pascal,
Forte has classes which might be able to scan the database structure
(DBColumnDesc,etc.). Express use this classes to determine how the
BusinessClass looks like. We use Forte to create the tables,indexes and
constraints. We have the Problem that the above described classes are only
readable but not fillable. The solution for us will be to create our own
classes in
the same manner than existing classes are. So we are able to make updates in
the database structure and maybe able to change the database tables with tool
code. Another reason for us to have the database structure in the
application is the
ability to see the table structure on which the Forte code works always up
to date
with the code. You are always able to compare the structure of the database
with
your businessclasses and able to convert a wrong structure to the correct
structure
with maybe just a little piece of code.
Hope this helps
Joseph Mirwald

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Re: (forte-users) Round-trip database design

We have used Erwin quite sucessfully, but it's not cheap.
"Rottier, Pascal" <Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch> on 02/15/2001 04:51:01 AM
To: 'Forte Users' <forte-userslists.xpedior.com>
cc:
Subject: (forte-users) Round-trip database design
Hi,
Maybe not 100% the right mailing list but it's worth a try.
Does anyone use tools to automatically update the structure of an existing
database?
For example, you have a full database model (Power Designer) and you've
created a script to create all these tables in a new and empty database.
You've been using this database and filling tables with data for a while.
Now you want to do some marginal modifications on these tables. Add a
column, remove a column, rename a column, etc.
Is there a way to automatically change the database without losing data and
without having to do it manually (except the manual changes in the (Power
Designer) model).
Thanks
Pascal Rottier
Atos Origin Nederland (BAS/West End User Computing)
Tel. +31 (0)10-2661223
Fax. +31 (0)10-2661199
E-mail: Pascal.Rottiernl.origin-it.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Philip Morris (Afd. MIS)
Tel. +31 (0)164-295149
Fax. +31 (0)164-294444
E-mail: Rottier.Pascalpmintl.ch
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Hello Pascal,
Forte has classes which might be able to scan the database structure
(DBColumnDesc,etc.). Express use this classes to determine how the
BusinessClass looks like. We use Forte to create the tables,indexes and
constraints. We have the Problem that the above described classes are only
readable but not fillable. The solution for us will be to create our own
classes in
the same manner than existing classes are. So we are able to make updates in
the database structure and maybe able to change the database tables with tool
code. Another reason for us to have the database structure in the
application is the
ability to see the table structure on which the Forte code works always up
to date
with the code. You are always able to compare the structure of the database
with
your businessclasses and able to convert a wrong structure to the correct
structure
with maybe just a little piece of code.
Hope this helps
Joseph Mirwald

Only one round trip to database from BizTalk per message irrespective of number of records in message per table.

I am creating biztalk application to store the data into sql server.
and my client says this line what i am not understood .
"Only one round trip to database from BizTalk per message irrespective of number of records in message per table."
Any one can help me to understand this line.!
Thanks,

One more option is -
Create a stored procedure to perform batch insert, you can insert into any number of tables you want.
--sample SP code...just added the steps you need to know to extract XML and perform insert
CREATE PROCEDURE <SPName>
@YourXML XML
AS
BEGIN
EXEC sp_xml_preparedocument @idoc OUTPUT, @youXML
SET @j = 1
            WHILE @j <= @recordCount
            BEGIN
                 SET @xpath = '//ns1:RootNode/Record[' + CAST(@j AS VARCHAR(11)) + ']'
                 ;WITH XMLNAMESPACES('record namespace' as ns0, 'rootnode namespace' as ns1)
     INSERT INTO YourTable
                  (field1, field2....field20)
                  SELECT
                        field1, field2....field20
                  FROM OPENXML(@idoc, @xpath, 2)
                        WITH(field1 varchar(2), field2 varchar(20)........field20 varchar(100))
                  SET @j = @j + 1
            END
END
On BizTalk side its quite simple...generate schema for your stored procedure...and in your map transform your XML to StoredProcedure schema using CDATA.
Hope it helps!!

Analysis, Design model, round-trip engineering

ok, here's the point.
We work with the problem domain and develop the analysis model. The analyst at this stage doesn't concern himself with the implementation details, some low-level code patterns and the programming language (well, let's forget for now about C's multiple inheritance and Java's workaround for it). So, when most of the analysis work is done, we end up with major classes (populated only with some basic attribs & behaviour; then, we have a high-level representation of business processes and corresponding activity diagrams. Of course, this model will be refined at a later stage, but for now it will do.
Say, we have the model in a project. Now we move to the design level. More and more details are added to the model, sequence/collaboration diagrams are added, we concern ourselves much more with the detailed class behaviour.
And here's the first question. Should we leave the original high-level diagrams intact and produce separate detailed ones? Generally, they represent the same process, but at a more detailed level. What about duplication of diagrams? Or should we elaborate the existing ones (but then we lose the clear and simple bird-eye view of the problem domain).
After that, we make a decision to implement the system as a set of EJB's. So, we've switch to component modeling at system design. UML model for these components differs quite a lot from a traditional one, so it can be quite painful to refactor the existing interaction diagrams. But do we need to do it? I agree that having <<EJBImplementation>>, <<EJBRealization>> , etc stereotypes displayed in the analysis model is not a nice solution.
Another question - is it a good idea to start a separate project for system design and just import/copy the required pieces from a higher-level design model? Or can we get away with combining all stages in one project file?
Please, read all of the above in the light of round-trip engineering. So, finishing after analysis stage, is not an option, but to lead the whole project to as low level as implementation details.
I'd like to hear from you, some hands-on experience with similar projects, your approaches. Feel free to comment on the flow of events.
Best regards,
Andrew

ok, here's the point.
We work with the problem domain and develop the
analysis model. The analyst at this stage doesn't
concern himself with the implementation details, some
low-level code patterns and the programming language
(well, let's forget for now about C's multiple
inheritance and Java's workaround for it). So, when
most of the analysis work is done, we end up with
major classes (populated only with some basic
attribs & behaviour; then, we have a high-level
representation of business processes and corresponding
activity diagrams. Of course, this model will be
refined at a later stage, but for now it will do.
Say, we have the model in a project. Now we move to
the design level. More and more details are added to
the model, sequence/collaboration diagrams are added,
we concern ourselves much more with the detailed class
behaviour.
And here's the first question. Should we leave the
original high-level diagrams intact and produce
separate detailed ones? Generally, they represent the
same process, but at a more detailed level. What about
duplication of diagrams? Or should we elaborate the
existing ones (but then we lose the clear and simple
bird-eye view of the problem domain).Depends on whether you are concerned about the abstract methodology or more concerned about the implementation methodology.
For full process control, on a large project, you will have a architecture design which will always reflect the target system but has little to do with the implementation design. If the architecture needs to change it means something was "wrong" with it (which could come about due to a change order or a refinement of the specification of the system.) There might be other associated high level documents which occupy the same level - such as the project plan. This would typically be the project initiation phase which occurs before software design starts.
Of course you would keep all of the documents. Just as naturally each version would be checked into the version control system.
>
After that, we make a decision to implement the system
as a set of EJB's. So, we've switch to component
modeling at system design. UML model for these
components differs quite a lot from a traditional one,
so it can be quite painful to refactor the existing
interaction diagrams. But do we need to do it? I agree
that having <<EJBImplementation>>, <<EJBRealization>>
, etc stereotypes displayed in the analysis model is
not a nice solution.I doubt that any reasonable system is going to make the decision to use J2EE in the system design process. That is always going to be a architecture or requirements decision (even if it is implicit.) If not then it suggests that there are probably at least three levels to the design process and the J2EE decision is in the top most layer (maybe there is a "high" and "low" level architecture process.) And architecture design must describe why J2EE was choosen and what if any alternatives were considered.
Again this document will be retained (and checked into version control.)
>
Another question - is it a good idea to start a
separate project for system design and just
import/copy the required pieces from a higher-level
design model? Or can we get away with combining all
stages in one project file?
In the abstract yes.
Why? Because in an ideal design environment, a "high" (system) level design is created by a small very experienced set of developers. Then it is handed off to many junior developers for "low" (detailed) design. That doesn't work if you are using the "same" design. This is only somewhat mitigated by design tools that somewhat support this process (or least last time I checked they didn't support it very well.)
Keep in mind that this is the ideal, and it is unlikely (probability wise) that you are working at or with a company where doing this is feasible much less encouraged.
Please, read all of the above in the light of
round-trip engineering. So, finishing after analysis
stage, is not an option, but to lead the whole project
to as low level as implementation details.
Round trip. You start with the documents that have been checked in. You branch the version control tree or just up the version numbers of the docs (depending on how "deliverables" are being handled) and start over.

Database Design for use with XSQL-connected Clients

Hi all,
this might seem a little off-topic at first, but I suppose we are not the only ones reading this group designing an architechture using XSQL servlet as the only connection to the database, with clients connecting over the internet.
So far our approach works well, but of course any database round trip is much more expensive in this environment than with clients that hold an open connection to the database.
That led us to the idea of generating primary keys on the client instead of the database (e.g. with CoCreateGuid on Win32). Do those GUIDs have to be stored in the Oracle database in a RAW column or does a NUMBER field do the job?
I found a hint in the Oracle 8i Replication manual to use SYS_GUID values in a RAW(32) column as a primary key to avoid conflicts between sequences on multiple machines. But I didn't find any statement concerning the performance issues of this.
Our database will not store huge amounts of data (most tables < 100.000 rows, just a handful more than a million in huge environments, which will be able to afford huge machines...), so this should not be
a problem, I guess.
Does anyone of you have experience with this?
And another question: Can I safely assume that keys generated with SYS_GUID on the Oracle server will not likely be the same as those that are generated using CoCreateGuid on the Win32 client?
Thanks for your input.
Olaf Lewitz
ohltec SOFTWERFT, Hamburg

Don't GUID's have hyphens in them? If so, you'd have to use a VARCHAR2(xx) of appropriate length. If not, then you can likely use HEX_TO_RAW() and RAW_TO_HEX() to store then in a RAW as you've noted.
Note that the XSQL Servlet's default connection manager does to connection pooling, so the roundtrip to the database may not be as expensive as you're thinking. :-)

Read data from STATIC internal table during round trip in DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT

Dear Gurus
I have a requirement where I need to select some data from the database table BUT_HIER_NODE_D.
After SELECTING this data to an internal table (say ITAB), I am displaying this data in a table view. I was able to achive this functionality by putting some code in the DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT method.
Now according to my requirement, after the above data has been displayed on the screen initially, the user will click on any row. After clicking on a particular row, I need to capture the document number on that particular row and need to display all its child document numbers in a separate table. I am able to achive this functionality also.
Initially I am not sure of how to READ the same internal table (ITAB) again and again by avoiding the SELECT query upon each round trip (between CRM and Web).
After some research, I understand that I might have to use STATIC internal table to store the data during the
initial SELECT. This way, upon each round trip, I can READ the data from the same internal table.
My question: But now, when I tried to create a STATIC internal table in DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT, it is not allowing me to declare this table because DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT method is a INSTANCE method.
I didn't find any STATIC methods in the IMPL class of the view.
I would really appreciate if somebody can help me on how to proceed further.
Thanks
Raj

Hi Bharathy / Adil / Masood
Thank you very much for the replies. I declared a static method inside the IMPL class and I was calling this method inside the DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT method. Looks like it is working fine for me...will comeback if I had any further issues.
Masood
As per my requirement, I need to Select the data into the internal table during the very first step, then I need to continuosly read the data from this internal table upon every round trip. So I am not sure if I would be able to use the method DO_INIT_CONTEXT. Because I need a method which will trigger upon each round trip and will also hold the data of this internal table. So right now, the only option for me is DO_PREPARE_OUTPUT method.
Plz let me know if am doing in the right way.
Thanks
Raj

Round Trip UML Tool

Looking for suggestions for a round trip UML tool. Mainly I'm interested in being able to extract UML diagrams from Java source. Ideally, open source, but I'm open to anything if it's really good.
So far I've found ArgoUML, but the support for reverse engineering UML seems spotty.
I've also heard good things about Together and Rational, but both of those seem very expensive...
Thanks for any thoughts,
Johh

I'd be curious to know your reasons for this, given
that
you seem to have quite a bit of experience.UML diagrams created by humans can sometimes show their intent more clearly than code by obscuring details and isolating the important abstractions. Unfortunately, maintaining that sort of UML diagram is expensive. I find it's cheaper to document the important abstractions and original intent with plain text comments.
There are impedance mismatches between UML and all popular programming languages. This forces automated reverse engineering to either arbitrarily reduce detail across the board or burden the diagrams with trivial details. The purpose of a model is to throw away some information. That's why 1:1 scale maps are not popular. Automated systems aren't smart enough to know which information to throw away.
Also, UML is sort of like Esperanto or Lojban. They might be useful in a pinch, but very few people want to speak them all the time. Automatically translating source to UML loses idiomatic information, and it turns out programming idioms convey a lot of useful information between experienced developers.
It seems to me having UML diagrams for other people's
code is especially useful, and can greatly ease the
process
of coming to understand it. Hence my special interest
in a
good reverse engineering tool. But I like UML for
aiding my
own design as well.I used to like it, but after I became more familiar with OO concepts I found it just slowed me down. Perhaps it is helpful while learning. I'm glad I know it, I just don't use it.

Round trip between Flash Builder and Catalyst?

Is it, or will it, be possible to go back to Flash Catalyst once a project as been brought into Flash Builder?
I have imported the .fxp project into Flash Builder, made some code changes, then exported a .fxp project out again. I want to be able to edit this in Catalyst so I can make design changes, but when I try to open the project Catalyst says it cannot be opened becuase it has been edited outside of the application. Is there something I am missing or has this simply not been implemented yet?
It would be a shame to not be able to "round trip" from Catalyst to Builder.
Thanks for your time and the product looks very exciting.

Hi Watern,
For the first version of Catalyst, we're focusing on the one-way workflow from Catalyst to Builder (start in Catalyst, finish in Builder). We realize this is a big limitation and hope to address soon after the first release.
There are a number of partial solutions for this problem, which you can find by searching around the forum. Most of them involve dividing the work between Catalyst and Flash Builder as cleanly as possible, which is surprisingly easy to do given the new skinning architecture. Here's an excerpt from a post I wrote that seems to have been lost:
"If you are iterating between Catalyst and Builder on a custom component, you may find it is worth splitting the custom component out in that fashion. I'm planning to write an article explaining this, but here's a preview:
In Builder, create a new subclass of SkinnableComponent. Put the component logic in there.
If you need to add visual logic like "now move the konfabulator 10px to the left", you should make konfabulator a skin part, using the metadata (see Scrollbar.as, in the Flex 4 SDK, for an example).
If your component has states, declare them with the metadata.
In Catalyst, make sure that your custom component has those parts and states.
Then import the custom component into Builder.
In the MXML file for the custom component, change the root tag <Group> to <Skin>. It's now a skin (not a custom component).
In the MXML file for the skin, add the [HostComponent("com.me.MyComponent")] metadata (see HScrollbarSkin.mxml, in the Flex 4 SDK, for an example).
Wherever you are creating the instance, change the code <MyComponent/> to <MySkinnableComponent skinClass="MyComponent"/>. Now you're creating an instance of your skinnable component and assigning it the skin created in Catalyst.
Done! If you make more changes in Catalyst, you'll have to repeat steps 5-7 again (for now!)."
-Adam

Round trip clearing adobe form field values not binded to webdynpro context

Hi ,
I have developed a webdynpro ABAP application with Interactive form. I'm calling a webservice on 'exit event' of the one of the form fields. Once webservice is executed, Im filling a table with 300 rows which is in the form. The table fileds are binded to webservice fields from the dataview of the form , these are not webdynpro context attributes in the data view.
But when I open any seach help , this table values are disappearing. I need to execute the webservice again to get the values.
can any one tell why the values in the table are disappearing? since I have binded to the webservice fields the values should remain there.
Apprecaite your response.
Regards,
Ravi

I looked over that note yesterday, but too quickly - i thought it was an older note explaining which standard programs to run to test out the connection etc...
but i see now that there is an important point:
The "pdfSource" attribute of the InteractiveForm UI element should be linked only if the Web Dynpro ABAP application requires the PDF document for further processing (saving data to the database, and so on). However, it is mostly only the data entered in the interactive form that is relevant for the application. If this attribute is linked, the Web Dynpro ABAP framework must request an updated PDF document from the Adobe document services each time data is changed in the form.
It looks like this is saying that a round trip is possible in WDA.
EDIT - I wish SAP would fix this certificate issue. My first post every day is doubled because of it.
Edited by: robert phelan on Jan 7, 2010 3:22 PM
Edited by: robert phelan on Jan 7, 2010 3:25 PM

Problem with demo : Round-Tripping XML with Oracle9i

Hi,
We have recently installed a 9.2.0.1.0 database with the intention of trying some of the new XMLTYPE samples.
I downloaded the demo : Round-Tripping XML with Oracle9i.
The first part, Mapping XML into Oracle9i, worked fine.
The second part, Re-composing XML from Oracle9i, doesn't seem to run.
Here is what I get i SQLPLUS :
(Step 1 to 15 is OK)
SQL> create or replace type PURCHASEORDER_TYPE as object
2 (
3 "Reference" VARCHAR2(64),
4 "Actions" SYS.XMLTYPE,
5 "Requester" VARCHAR2(48),
6 "User" VARCHAR2(32),
7 "Reject" PURCHASEORDERREJECTION_TYPE,
8 "CostCenter" VARCHAR2(3),
9 "Vendor" VARCHAR2(32),
10 "PONumber" NUMBER(10),
11 "ShippingInstructions" PURCHASEORDERSHIPINST_TYPE,
12 "SpecialInstructions" VARCHAR2(2048),
13 "LineItems" SYS.XMLTYPE
14 );
15 /
Type created.
SQL> --script 16
SQL> create or replace view PURCHASEORDERDOCUMENTS as
2 select P.REFERENCE,
3 sys_xmlgen(
4 PURCHASEORDER_TYPE(
5 P.REFERENCE,
6 (
7 select
8 sys_xmlagg(
9 sys_xmlgen(
10 PURCHASEORDERACTION_TYPE(
11 A.ACTIONEDBY,
12 A.DATEACTIONED
13 ),
14 sys.xmlgenformattype.createFormat('Action')
15 )
16 ).extract('//Action')
17 from PURCHASEORDERACTIONS A
18 where A.REFERENCE = P.REFERENCE
19 ),
20 P.REQUESTER,
21 P.USERID,
22 PURCHASEORDERREJECTION_TYPE(
23 R.REJECTEDBY,
24 R.DATEREJECTED,
25 R.COMMENTS
26 ),
27 P.COSTCENTER,
28 P.VENDOR,
29 P.PONUMBER,
30 PURCHASEORDERSHIPINST_TYPE(
31 S.SHIPTONAME,
32 S.ADDRESS,
33 S.PHONE
34 ),
35 P.SPECIALINSTRUCTIONS,
36 (
37 select
38 sys_xmlagg(
39 sys_xmlgen(
40 PURCHASEORDERLINEITEM_TYPE(
41 L.LINENO,
42 L.DESCRIPTION,
43 PURCHASEORDERPART_TYPE(
44 L.PARTNO,
45 L.QUANTITY,
46 L.UNITPRICE
47 )
48 ),
49 sys.xmlgenformattype.createFormat('LineItem')
50 ),
51 sys.xmlgenformattype.createFormat('LineItems')
52 )
53 from PURCHASEORDERLINEITEMS L
54 where P.REFERENCE = L.REFERENCE
55 )
56 ),
57 sys.xmlgenformattype.createFormat('PurchaseOrder')
58 ) "PODOCUMENT"
59 from PURCHASEORDERSTORE P,
60 PURCHASEORDERREJECTION R,
61 PURCHASEORDERSHIPINSTRUCTIONS S
62 where R.REFERENCE = P.REFERENCE
63 and S.REFERENCE = P.REFERENCE;
View created.
SQL> --script 17
SQL> set heading off;
SQL> set wrap on
SQL> set pagesize 10000;
SQL> set long 10000;
SQL> select P.PODOCUMENT.getClobVal() from PURCHASEORDERDOCUMENTS P;
select P.PODOCUMENT.getClobVal() from PURCHASEORDERDOCUMENTS P
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-06502: PL/SQL: numeric or value error
ORA-06512: at line 1
Has anyone had the same problem ?? I would appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks,
Frank

I found the solution :
The database was running with a multibyte characterset (UTF8).
After changing that to WE8ISO8859P1 everything worked fine.
It is strange that Oracle suggest to use UTF8 when installing the new database (9i)
and on the other hand doesn't support multibyte charactersets for several of the XML-products.
Cheers,
Frank

Relational database design

i apologise in advance for the banality of this question, i
have been designing basic sites for my business for years and am
comfortable with html, and have recently designed a complex site
havig susssed .css and coldfusion code written though dw.
I CANNOT MAKE THE LEAP TO GET MY HEAD ROUND RELATIONAL
DATABASES and want to integrate some dynamic application forms
(which i can code in CF).
Can anyone point me towards a resource that will walk me
though how to build a simple (then a complex) relational database
that wont send me to sleep or make my eyes glaze over.
Its a brain block that is now causing me stress, but i just
dont get it...
SAVE ME
Ta

no worries. i can sympathize with trying to grasp new
concepts. problem is that double posting just makes it more
difficult for people to follow the thread(s).

"Round-trip" feature broken!

all of a sudden after years of trouble-free operation, i started having a problem with round-tripping of my referenced files (most of my library). it happens when using any plug-in or editing with photoshop.
it seems that as soon as i choose one of the "Edit with..." options and it creates a new version, the new version has no name (blank) or displays "null." the image opens in the editor of choice (e.g., CS3, Nik filter), i make edits, but when i return the preview is not updated and full-screen mode does not show the updated image.
if i choose to open the image again in CS3, for example, it will show the edited image.
this problem just started happening out of the blue. here are some recent things that changed on my Macbook Pro:
1. Upgraded from 10.5.5 to 10.5.6;
2. Ran the Aperture database re-indexing and permissions check.
Fortunately, before doing the 10.5.6 update, i performed a backup that i plan to restore and see if this will fix the problem. but i was hoping to avoid this if someone knew what was going on.
Thanks!
Darron.

The round trip feature is back now. I updated iTunes to 5.0.1 today, and that function is available again, but it still doesn't work as the previous version did. Option clicking an arrow in the iTunes music library will perform the specific query I mentioned earlier in the post. Clicking on the arrow from some of the items in my library works intermittently. For example, when I click on Matchbox20 - I am taken to Advanced search page. When I click on Destiny's Child - I am taken to the iTunes Music store page which features all DC albums (this is the proper way it should function). When I click on Whitney Houston's Greatest hits - I am taken to ITMS Whitney Houston page, but not that specific album (which should not be the case). It should just isolate that one album by Whitney. For anyone that has a sizable music collection, this feature of iTunes is invaluable in my opinion. I'm surprised it's not exploited in other software.
Thanks Apple.

After round trip to CS5 Aperture is not becoming the active window

After I complete my edits in CS5 I command W and save and the file returns to aperture with adjustments etc but aperture doesnt become the active window so I have to click on it to start off the next part of my workflow. Unless I am mistaken there is something going wrong here as before when i used aperture on completion of the round trip I was back active in an active window where I started off. Anyone got any idea's with what I am doing wrong? E

If you were using CS5 and Aperture in SL, I think you are mistaken. There is nothing about those keystrokes to cancel CS5 being the front application. If you close CS5, then Aperture will be the front application, assuming you have not interimly opened another app. I would not expect it to be different in Lion. My use of Lion is currently testing another external editior, so haven't installed my Adobe Design Premium suite in Lion yet, but would not expect different behavior from that in SL.
Ernie

Round trip export/import from Mac OSX iCal

Since there isn't an iSync plug-in for Oracle Calendar (yet?) I thought I'd try a round-trip import/export between Oracle Calendar and Mac OSX iCal. Inconvenient, but it should would because the UIDs in the .ics file would be the same and an import would overlay over the existing entries.
Wrong -- if I export an event from iCal, import it into Oracle Calendar, then export it again and look at the .ics file, the UID is different. Consequently, I get duplicate entries at the end of the round trip.
What good is the "U"-Unique of UID if it isn't kept consistently? From the standard: "Implementations MUST be able to receive and persist values of at least 255 characters for this property."

I've ran into an issue when exporting/importing a .csv file from OSX.And this "issue" is...?
Exporting from? Importing to?
APEX version?
Database version?
Database character set?
Database host OS and version?
EPG, OHS or OAS (and version)?
DAD character set (if any)?
OS X version?
Some, none or all of the above may or not be relevant, but without more information to go on, all you are going to get are random guesses.
http://tkyte.blogspot.com/2005/06/how-to-ask-questions.html
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Round tripping with Fireworks CS3

I am using Dreamweaver/Fireworks CS3 and editing images
between Dreamweaver and Fireworks by round-tripping via the
Property Inspector is a very cool feature. However, I can't seem to
use this same feature with background images linked to the page in
a CSS style sheet, because there is not way to "select" the image
in Design View.
Is there a way to "select" a background image linked to the
page in a CSS style sheet, so it will show up in the property
inspector where I can edit the source file? There has to be a way!
Can anyone help me out?
David Conner

> Is there a way to "select" a background image linked to
the page in a CSS
> style sheet, so it will show up in the property
inspector where I can edit the
> source file? There has to be a way!
not directly from the design view window-
But find out the image's name and folder location from
whatever code it's
called in, and then go to the Files Panel and right-click on
the file to
edit or optimize it in fireworks. If it's a background, it's
a single image.
If it's part of an inserted .png table or similar, select an
adjacent real
image that's part of the same .png and pick the round trip
option.
Alan
Adobe Community Expert, dreamweaver
http://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/

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