SAP BW Recursive hierarchies

Hello,
I am wondring if there is such a thing as "Recursive hierarchies" in BW 3.5 and if so, how do you implement it?
Thanks

David
I have not heard about this but I could see some ehere it's called as a recrusive subnode
Check these links if it helps
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/92/12a74046033913e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/8b/764d3c006f8f0ce10000000a11405a/frameset.htm
Thnaks
Sa

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