[SOLVED] High temperature with lenovo x220

Hi there,
Since one month, I'm having problem with my lenovo x220, before that, everything was fine (I didn't know what have changed since then).
After ~3-4min of running (everytime), my laptop reach 96°C (even if I didn't log in) and the fan start working very fast (wich is annoying because of the sound, but my main problem is the temperature).
Here is the informations I have... Ask if you need more info:
acpid -tb:
Battery 0: Charging, 47%, 01:52:05 until charged
Thermal 0: ok, 96.0 degrees C
sensors:
acpitz-virtual-0
Adapter: Virtual device
temp1: +96.0°C (crit = +99.0°C)
thinkpad-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1: 4530 RPM
coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Physical id 0: +96.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0: +95.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 1: +91.0°C (high = +86.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
end of my dmesg:
[ 2380.080437] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2380.080438] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2380.080440] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2380.080441] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2446.629333] thinkpad_acpi: unknown possible thermal alarm or keyboard event received
[ 2446.629338] thinkpad_acpi: unhandled HKEY event 0x6040
[ 2446.629340] thinkpad_acpi: please report the conditions when this event happened to [email protected]
[ 2446.629833] thinkpad_acpi: EC reports that Thermal Table has changed
[ 2446.765427] NMI watchdog: enabled on all CPUs, permanently consumes one hw-PMU counter.
[ 2446.776900] EXT4-fs (sda3): re-mounted. Opts: data=ordered,commit=360
[ 2446.795757] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: data=ordered,commit=360
[ 2446.812242] EXT4-fs (sda4): re-mounted. Opts: data=ordered,commit=360
[ 2446.858672] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[ 2446.958744] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1a.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 2447.037062] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
[ 2447.138505] ehci_hcd 0000:00:1d.0: setting latency timer to 64
[ 2679.691436] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2679.691437] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2679.691461] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2679.691463] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2979.305525] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 258444)
[ 2979.305527] CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 258444)
[ 2979.305529] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 258444)
[ 2979.305531] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 258444)
[ 2979.307523] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2979.307524] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2979.307526] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 2979.307527] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 3278.919582] CPU1: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 318212)
[ 3278.919583] CPU0: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 318212)
[ 3278.919586] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 318212)
[ 3278.919587] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 318212)
[ 3278.921581] CPU1: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 3278.921582] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 3278.921585] CPU3: Package temperature/speed normal
[ 3278.921586] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal
My rc.conf daemons arrays: DAEMONS=(syslog-ng @network crond dbus wicd acpid laptop-mode cpupower)
Do you have any idea of my problems?
Thx
Last edited by pyknite (2012-10-31 20:47:55)

@op wrote:
If you are using kernel 3.6.x then it's a known problem causing power regression which implies a higher temperature.
More details in this thread: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150743
I this case I'd recommend downgrading to 3.5.x or using one of the workarounds mentioned in the above thread.
Thx very much I'll read that
donniezazen wrote:
This might be related https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150743
What kernel are you on?
Linux blup_laptop 3.6.4-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Oct 29 09:49:00 CET 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Thx too...

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On the next day, when restarting the laptop, both Power manager and the windows gauge are indicating close to the same percentage as just before it was stopped the night before.
Then after a random time, ranging from few minutes to a hour or so, windows will notify me that the battery is at a critical level of charge (6%) while just before both Power manager and windows indicator were showing something like 60% remaining.
At that point windows shows 6% while power manager still shows the previous level of charge (let say 60%). After few minutes, Power manager indicator goes all to 6% and then the PC hibernates.
I think that my issue appeared after I updated Power manager, I reinstalled it including its driver with no luck...
I am now performing a battery reset to see if it helps.
I read several other posts regarding similar issues on the lenovo forums, it was suggested that some battery cells might been faulty and that a battery swap might solve the problem. However, as far as I read, it seems that people who performed a battery swap were still experiencing the issue.
I wanted to know if there were any know fix for this battery issue or at least what steps I should be taking to investigate/debug this issue?
Thanks in advance for your help
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To get the obvious out of the way, when your battery life suddenly drops off, are you watching YouTube or surfing Flash-heavy web sites?
Yeah, a sudden drop-off in indicated battery life sounds like a driver issue, so I dunno...maybe you could try rolling back the battery driver or Power Manager. (There's a way to roll back the driver via Windows Device Manager, right? Just make sure you don't uninstall the driver through Windows; there should be a button to click for "roll back driver.") I suggest making regular full-system-image backups of your X220 while you're working on the drivers. With my old x100e, I got myself into trouble after uninstalling AMD Catalyst Controller, and it just refused to reinstall.
Do you think like...a battery calibration would work? Go into Power Manager, Advanced, then Global Settings. Go to the battery low/critical section and click the box that says "do nothing" for when low and critical are reached. Power Manager will force the computer to run, even though the battery will broadcast a 0% level remaining. (And just to be safe, run the calibration with everything closed, use Power Manager to set the CPU to "low," and set a video looping in WMP or something like that, at brightness 11 of 15.) It's not too healthy for the battery (to deep discharge), but if you get 3-6 hours in that test, it'll be safe to say the problem's in the software, either something hogging CPU power or a driver issue.
I've done it a bunch of times, but in my experience it doesn't change much. I've only ever gotten 7-10 minutes of runtime while the battery says it's at 0%. The laptop will just wink out when it's done, no hibernation.
Try it if you haven't yet.

TMPIN1 high temperature !! :(:(

I have a mbu MSI p67a-c45 B3, I saw the other day that the temperature to TMPIN1 is very high, about 110 degrees celsius.
I solved this problem with a northbridge fan.
Is it in any way affected the integrity, sensitivity and lifetime of the motherboard for these temperatures occurred, because it works now. :( :( :(
THX!
I apologize for not speaking good English !
Please write to understand correctly

Quote from: Henry on 12-April-12, 14:10:46
The fan should be blowing into the cooler towards MB not away from it. That is Intel design specs. That's why all of the coolers that come with CPUs have the fan blowing towards MB so that surrounding components (such as CPU VRM, chipsets, etc.) get some airflow from the CPU cooler. Any deviation from that may require additional fans for proper cooling of those components.
Its true. My morning fail. ..sorry. So do you install a different cpu cooler?

Poor battery life and high temperatures on MacBook Pro Retina 15"

I'm having never-ending problems with poor battery life and high temperatures on a MacBook Pro Retina 15"
I took it in for service and they told me it needed a new logic board and replaced it. When I asked why they were vague about the reasons, they said "it just needed one, it failed some test". I now have the computer back and it runs the same way it always did. I bought this laptop because it was supposedly capable of high end video editing in 1080P (or so Apple's website claims) and also photo editing.
"The processor, graphics, all-flash architecture, memory, and display in the 15-inch MacBook Pro give you unprecedented mobile video editing capabilities. Super-responsive flash storage delivers up to nine streams of 1080p ProRes (HQ) content for multicam editing in Final Cut Pro X,3 while the latest quad-core processors on the 15-inch MacBook Pro decode multiple streams of video, and a powerful GPU renders millions of pixels onto the screen. With flash storage that offers up to four times the performance of a traditional hard drive,1 you can even edit four streams of uncompressed 8-bit 1080p HD video, right from the internal storage on your 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display.4"
However, when I'm just browsing the web and emailing it runs quite warm and battery life is quite poor. Sometimes doing those same activities I would say it gets so warm it's almost uncomfortable to have on your lap and the fans are running fast enough to become noticably noisy. I'm also driving only one screen at and a time and I heard that the MacBook Pro can supposedly do three screens.
If actually try to do something like video editing with final cut pro the laptop gets really hot, the fans are on full blast and battery life drops to only an hour or two. I think when I rendered just a 3 or 4 minute clip once I got less than hour of battery life. I will have to time again.
Anyway most people (including the sales guys) are telling me no way this is not normal. When I play with demos in the store browsing the web they are not getting warm or hot to the touch. My friend's 2013 MacBook Air is also NOT getting warm to the touch doing the same activities.
I installed iStat Pro so I could check the temperature and fan speeds. I'm seeing temperatures of 70+ on the GPU, 85+ on the GPU diode and 65+ on the CPU heatsink along with elvated fan speeds above 5K which becomes noticeably noisy. I understand that might be normal for the most processor intensive tasks but it really doesn't seem right for just light web browsing and e-mailing. (I also may have viber and skype open but that shouldn't matter). CPU usage is usually running between 2-10% as this is all happening to.
Furthermore, straight from the specs:
Intel HD Graphics 4000
NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M with 1GB of GDDR5 memory and automatic graphics switching
I am assume "GPU" and "GPU diode" are temp measurements on the discrenete NVIDIA video card, especially since MacBook Airs from the same and newer generatio do not have this reading. Since Apple Claims the graphics "automatically switches" it seems all the harder to believe the GPU is reaching 85+ when in theory it shouldn't even be activated. I mean, shouldn't the INtel HD Graphics 4000 be capable of simple web browsing and e-mailing? Especially with only one screen activated (be it it the internal or an external)?
What should I do here? When I asked the repair guys "OK well what is the normal operating temp range for the various sensors" they said "Sorry Apple doesn't provide that info".

Yes I have.
Just web browsing and basically doing nothing I'm hear a lot of aduible fans, I'm getting 85C+ on GPU diode, 65+ on cpu heatsink. I since installed anohter program that shows me not just the CPU heatsink but the cores and the cores are at 90C+.
Seems like a lot of heat for doing nothing. Not only that but I have these problems with no external monitor while on battery power too.
I don't know what to do. They already replaced the logic board. Others seem to get advertised battery life out of Apple products and not have products that get **** near hot enough to burn you while just web browsing or watching a movie let alone advertised tasks like Photoshop and Final Cut Pro.

Mbp late 2014 very high temperature at internet videos

Hello,
I bought an MacBook Pro 13" about 3 weeks ago. After some time, I noticed that the Macbook got very hot while watching videos online. I installed "Istat menu" for reading the temperature sensor's values. When i watch videos online (e.g youtube/facebook) the temperature goes up to about 90°C in only a few seconds-a minute. Since you can track apps with higher energy consumptions in yosemite (10.10.1) i looked into the activity monitor and it said the webbrowser (tested with safari and chrome) consumed up to +300 units. If i set the fan to turn on max RPM and hold the MB completely up, i get the temperature down to about 60°C, until i close the youtube/facebook tab completely. Amazon prime video in 1080p works without getting hot at all, even when the Macbook rests on a blanket. Sometimes even spotify (not even playing music, just running in the background) causes high temperatures, but AutoCAD and other programs work "regularly", without the MBP getting hot..
That circumstances really disturb the useability, because almost cant watch videos at all!
I ran the "Apple hardware test" (pressing "D" while startup), which did not give any problems/errors.
Is this a Yosemite problem or a hardware problem?
sincerely ttopueth.

ttopueth wrote:
Is this a Yosemite problem or a hardware problem?
Neither. Some videos will produce temperature in the 90°c range. That actually is 'normal' and is not dangerous to your MBP. There are thermal shutdown provisions that will prevent the MBP from committing Hari Kari. If you wish, get a cooling pad to lower the temperature a touch.
Ciao.

[SOLVED] High temperature with lenovo x220

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