Spry Menu and IE Issue (Hover Font Size)

I'm not able to figure out why the hover focus setting works fine with Firefox or Chrome, but I can't find a setting in the CSS to ensure the value for the font on a hover within IE remains fixed. on a hover, the font size increases slighly in IE and pushes menu out of alignment very slightly. I was able to keep the hover size fixed in Firefox and Chrome via the CSS values for the spry, but not sure why IE is doing this and if there is a setting specific to IE that would allow me to keep the hover font size fixed, but not change the values in Firefox/Chrome. Is there any way to lock in the hover value using CSS for the font so in IE it remains constant?
http://oregonstate.edu/~labellec/CDfiles/index.html
Page is under development, but if you open it up in IE, the menu hover causes too much movement. I'm new to CS4, so, any help appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris

Perhaps you could adapt the techniques used here for your
Spry menu:
http://www.projectseven.com/products/menusystems/pmm2/see-through.htm
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
The Finest Dreamweaver Menus | Galleries | Widgets
http://www.projectseven.com/go/pop
The Ultimate DW Menu System
"Webkil" <[email protected]> wrote in
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>I have tried this. I want a transparent background no
colour. As soon as I
>add transparent IE comes up with the word false in the
sub menus.

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A really good tutorial from Rob Glazebrook.
One that uses just 12 lines of JavaScript.
So, don't use Spry. Use the ones above. If you don't want to have to learn anything, simply download the one from Project Seven, install the plugin, craft the menu and, Bob's your uncle. Easy to maintain and add onto as well. Worth the money spent.
The rest of the ones do require some knowledge of HTML and CSS and, if you are going to continue to develop for the web, I recommend you learn those things.

Header, Spry Menu and Body not properly aligned

Please take a look at my page http://www.seanmccuedesign.com/shemwebsitenew/index.html and tell me why the Header, Horizontal Spry Menu and Body are wonky and not aligned properly.
Thanks very much,
Sean

The header is a bit to the left, the spry menu hangs too far to the right, and the body is too far to the right as well. I simply need them all centered...

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Hi all. I have a horizontal spry menu bar, and i'm using a gradient image for the background of the main menu, but I want the submenu to just be a solid color. I figure i should just be able to use css for this solid BG, but I can create an image no problem if need be. I just think it looks unprofessional to have multiple segments of a horizontal gradient stacked vertically. I know this is possible, the second to last example on this link demonstrates but doesn't explain:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/samples/menubar/MenuBarSample.html
I would greatly appreciate any available help on this subject! Thanks again!

Thanks for asking, no that is not my complete css file. Those are only *additional* lines to place adjacent to existing styles in your "SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css", but in each case as the next style, in the location I have indicated. Here, I'll put my complete file here for you:
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
     list-style-type: none;
     font-size: 100%;
     cursor: default;
     width: auto;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
     z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
     list-style-type: none;
     font-size: 100%;
     position: relative;
     text-align: left;
     cursor: pointer;
     width: 8em;
     float: left;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
     list-style-type: none;
     font-size: 100%;
     z-index: 1020;
     cursor: default;
     width: 8.2em;
     position: absolute;
     left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
     left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
     width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
     position: absolute;
     margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
     left: auto;
     top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
     border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
     display: block;
     cursor: pointer;
     background-color: #EEE;
     padding: 0.5em 0.75em;
     color: #333;
     text-decoration: none;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a {
     background-color: yellow;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
     background-color: #33C;
     color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
     background-color: #33C;
     color: #FFF;
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible {
     background-color: green;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
     background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
     background-repeat: no-repeat;
     background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
     background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
     background-repeat: no-repeat;
     background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
     background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
     background-repeat: no-repeat;
     background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
     background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
     background-repeat: no-repeat;
     background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
     position: absolute;
     z-index: 1010;
     filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
     ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
          display: inline;
          f\loat: left;
          background: #FFF;
.fleft {
     clear: none;
     float: left;
The idea with putting the new styles *after* the original styles is that they are logically similar to but 'sub' styles to existing styles. In fact, you could probably put them way at the bottom, but if you wanted to edit them you might not find them again easily. I was trying to keep similar style rules together.
Z

Spry Menu and Web Design Problem

Hello Folks,
    I've been working feverishly on a layout for my father's new company but my progress has recently hit a snag. For the past hour and a half I've been trying to solve two problems:
1. In Internet Explorer (IE 6), Opera, and Firefox (3.x) - there are a white lines appearing in the spry navigation menu (usually towards the right) after the last tab called "Company Info." The following URL is an example of my problem:
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbk142/real_test1.html
2. Only in Firefox (believe it or not) - there is a space occuring between my spry navigation bar and the company logo (refer to the URL above). I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the spry menu properties that I assigned but I'm not sure where to begin.
Thanks in advance for your help and happy holidays.
Sam
PS> The following are the CSS files for my website. Let me know if there are other files you need me to upload.
------------------Beginning of SpryMenuBarHorizontal-----------------------------
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - Revision: Spry Preview Release 1.4 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 97%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    margin-bottom: 0em;
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 9.5em;
    float: left;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.2em;
    border-top-width: .1em;
    border-top-style: solid;
    border-top-color: #FFFFFF;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin-left: 8em;
    margin-top: 0.5em;
    margin-right: 0em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCCCCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #5B6372;
    text-decoration: none;
    text-align: center;
    color: #FFFFFF;
    padding-top: 0.05em;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: #33C;
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #33C;
    color: #FFF;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(/sbk142/SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(/sbk142/SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(/sbk142/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(/sbk142/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
/* @media screen, projection */
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;
----------------Beginning of Website Layout (CSS) File----------------------------
#left_pane {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/left_pane.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 682px;
    width: 131px;
#nav {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/navigation.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 19px;
    width: 800px;
#mission_content {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/mission_content.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 191px;
    width: 639px;
#news_content {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/news_content.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 365px;
    width: 307px;
#promo_content {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/promo_content.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 161px;
    width: 309px;
#pop_content {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/pop_content.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 161px;
    width: 309px;
#body_top_border {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/mission_top_border.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 11px;
    width: 669px;
#body_border_left {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/body_left_border.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 671px;
    width: 14px;
#body_border_right {
    background-image: url(/sbk142/body_border_right.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    height: 671px;
    width: 16px;

After spending another hour and a half trying to understand my mistakes I decided to create a new layout.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/sbk142/template7.html
Thanks to those who allocated some time to help me.
HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!!!!!!

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You're welcome Rich. Glad to help.
Not being a Facebook User, I'm not sure how to respond to the error situation. However, this would be something to report to Apple as a bug via the Safari Menu. First, open to the page in question, then select "Report Bugs to Apple".
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Two pages on my website (www.SimplyGreen.biz) are pointing to an incorrect page on my Spry Menu Bar. When I look at the Spry Menu Bar set up - it is correct and when I look at the code behind that menu bar - it is pointing to the correct page also. When I preview the page in browser, it comes up correct. When I go to my website, the index page comes up correctly, but when you point or hover over the first menu item (Corporate Solutions on the far left) it opens the Driving Positive Solutions page instead of the index page it's supposed to. The Spry menu is correctly pointing to the correct files. I have manually taken the spry menus off the remote site and reloaded the new local site file........ and it still won't change it. It must be saved somewhere else & I can't figure out where else to look.
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Hi
CS4 dreamweaver, Spry menu.
I am trying to design a spry horizontal menu such that the main menu bar boxes accross the top all share a background image and a hover image.
I would like all the boxes in the dropdown area to share a diferent background and hover image.
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I hope that i am explaining myself.
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Hi - I just read
The other challenge is that my menu is dynamic and is using a spry dataset to drive it.
Some time back I did the same for a number of websites - and then realised that search engines dont read the data. ie - the links and they could not be followed since they needed to be generated on the fly in the browser.. So as a result, Google was not going thru my nav menu links.
I then changed to another method (PHP / MySql) for my dynamic menus.
My menu system has some extra CSS to style the subnavs and the currently selected page.
Just my 2bobs worth. Hope it is of some use..

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Regards
John

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Hello,
Link:
http://www.therockchurch.tv/about_trc.html#welcome
Issue: Mac Safari doesn't like the spry menu bar. The sub
menus disappear and flicker. Everything works fine on all browsers
using widows including safari for windows. The menu just doesn't
like mac. Any help?
-R

"kinblas" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:f7rdd2$7ri$[email protected]..
> Hmm, I'm not seing any flashing on that page on my Mac
with Safari. It
> looks
> pretty good.
>
> I am seeing it on your homepage:
>
>
http://www.throckchurch.tv
>
> but it looks like it is due to the fact that Safari is
struggling to keep
> up
> with rendering all that Flash animation on your page.
>
> On windows with FireFox, the homepage is starving the
browser and pegging
> my
> CPU at 100%.
In IE7 Vista, my CPU is pegged at 22%. I do not run flash in
Firefox because
of its rendering engine issues, so that might be an issue
there. Safari has
known issues rendering CSS hovers on top of flash. The
workaround is to
remove hovers or live with it.
Al Sparber - PVII
http://www.projectseven.com
Extending Dreamweaver - Nav Systems | Galleries | Widgets
Authors: "42nd Street: Mastering the Art of CSS Design"

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