SSD + HDD, GPT & MBR dual boot.

Hi all,
I ordered my first SSD the other day and it is expected to arrive tomorrow.   I current have a 500 GB HD that I dual boot Arch/Win 7.   I was wondering the following:
It is possible to to put /boot, /var and my NTFS on the HDD with standard MBR, and install /, /home, and swap on my SSD with GPT?   If so how might I go about doing that?  If not, I can put /boot on my ssd as I don't believe it gets written to often.  If I do that is it possible to dual boot a MBR drive from a GPT drive?
Also I am slightly confused about the UEFI section.  I know my motherboard is "UEFI" but I don't know how to tell if it is in BIOS mode, or UEFI mode.   Basially this is my first new computer if 5 years and a ton has changed
Any tips would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
Sam

Chocobo wrote:
Thanks for the links. 
In reference to https://gitorious.org/tianocore_uefi_du … I_boot_USB:
mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/[USB_DEVICE]  should read: mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/[USB_FAT32_PART]  correct?   Just staying with convention of the rest of the wiki entry?  It wouldn't make sense to format the device as FAT32, only the partition correct?
Minor issue.
Also, I am not sure step 4.2 or 4.3 are needed when for archboot seeing all the files already seem to be there.
ldlinux.sys version (installed by extlinux) should match the c32 and other syslinux modules in (USB)/boot/syslinux, otherwise syslinux will refuse to boot.
Hmm, I am not sure what I am doing wrong but I keep getting an "Operating system not found" error.   I will have to keep playing with this, and see if I can figure it out.
May be due to the above reason, but not sure, since "Operating system not found" error is mostly from the BIOS (atleast in systems I have used), not from syslinux.

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    3) Whether one uses an SSD or HDD, dual-booting will be the same: 2+ partitions devoted to separate operating systems.  While SSDs and HDDs may be fundamentally different constructs, booting from them is not different at all.  That's why you aren't finding anything saying such.
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    5) Welcome to Arch.

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    The Dell license only covers the version of the OS that came with the system. In theory, dual boot requires two licenses.

  • Dual boot ArchLinux and Win XP on 2 separate HDD

    Dear Archers
    My friend wants me to install ArchLinux on his desktop, with 2 separate HDD. He already has win xp installed on one HDD. He wants to dual boot. Pl. give some inputs as to how this should be done.
    (My experience is limited.  I have installed ArchX86_64 only,  on my desktop)
    I have read the wiki, but I am not confident of doing this with only so little explanation

    It should be pretty simple.  Just install Arch on the HDD without XP on it, install grub to the Arch drive's MBR, then change the boot priority in the BIOS so that the Arch drive is booted first.
    When you add your "windows" menu item to GRUB, the "root" entry should look like:
    rootnoverify(hd1,0)
    assuming XP is on the first paritition of the other drive.
    Assuming you install GRUB to the correct drive, it should be harmless to play around with menu.lst until you get it working right.
    Last edited by alexandrite (2010-08-24 14:24:39)

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