Subordinate processes in BPM

Hello experts!
I have designed and configured a small process in XI BPM. Now I would like to use this process in a bigger process as subordinate process. Please, can anyone help me how to call the subordinate process? Via a self-call to the same XI-Server by HTTP/XI/SOAP-Adapter OR via direct call of the integration process of the subordinate process?
Thanks in advance!
Denis

Hi Denis,
You simply send an outbound,Abstract,Async message interface- from the main ccBPM to the other ccBPM that you need to trigger.
You also need to define the message routing (receiver determination etc.) in the integration directory (configuration).
Message was edited by: Ofer Even-Tsur

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Hi,
You can make use of Global Automatic activity to kick off your process at a particular time. Place a Global Automatic activity in your process and right click on the Global Automatic activity and select Properties --> General --> Global Automatic Type: Automatic Schedule, Automatic Schedule: <Configure with your requirement>.
Else you can make use of due transition/timer activity to get your task done.
Bibhu

Human interaction process using BPM

Hi Experts,
Is it possible to create Human interaction process using BPM?
Regards
Sara

An insurance analyst has access only access to the backend, not to XI. So send the message to the backend, start a workflow here and send a message back.
You can use ABAP proxy to implement this.
In PI 7.1 there will be human interaction in BPM, but this requires a user in the PI system and is useful only for administrators, as there are no application data in PI which enables the user to decide, whether he should approve or reject the request.
In PI 3.0/7.0 there is no user interaction in BPM.
Regards
Stefan

Migration of GP process to BPM

Hi,
Can we migrate our GP process to BPM ? Do we have any migration tool available? If yes then how and if no then do we have to re-modell our whole process in BPM?
Regards,
Pratik

Hi Pratik,
unfortunately, there is no migration tool to autmatically convert GP processes to SAP NetWeaver BPM.
You will have to re-model them with SAP NetWeaver BPM manually.
Best regards,
Oliver

How to get the assignees for a specific role in process in BPM 11g

Hi, Gurus,
I am using BPM 11g. I am trying to retrieve all the assignees for a a specific role in process. It will be a parameter for a business rule to do further routing rule. But it seems there is no way to get the information. I found that there are Identity Service Functions in Human Task Assignment. But Identity Service Functions are not listed in Business Rule Activity, neither listed in other activities except Human Task Assignment. I cannot get the assignees in my process.
Is there any way to get all the assignees for a role? I also tried to retrieve the assignees out engine with Worklist API, but it cannot get either. Actually we can get all the assignees information in automatic activity in OBPM 10g. Maybe I am still not familiar with 11g. Any advice is appreciated.
FYI:
My scenario:
Suppose we have a role named ApprovalTeam. In this role, there will be several different department manager (BPM User) added in the role through Workspace. At run time, a request (With department info) with go through the approval by ApprovalTeam. A Business Rule Activity with decide which department manager will approve this request. Different department request will be dispatched dedicate managers, not all the managers in the role. I have an external JavaBean to get the department information from LDAP. To do the routing, I also need know all the department managers (BPM User) in the ApprovalTeam role. Then I can compare which department manager is matched with the request and assign the task to him.
Thanks a lot,
James
Edited by: James Piao on May 31, 2010 6:25 PM

or this?
SQL> select text from ALL_VIEWS
2 where VIEW_NAME
3 ='EMP_VIEW';
TEXT
SELECT empno,ename FROM EMP
WHERE empno=10

How to trigger Sequence of processes in BPM

Hi! I am trying to implement process sequencing with BPM.Its like i have to trigger a set of processes(say 1,2 &3 ) if certain flag in input msg is set.If the flag is not set then processes (1,2&4 ).
      the procecess should occur in a sequence like ..if 1 is completed then it should send ackgmnt and start the 2nd process.
If any body has worked on similar scenario , please reply :).
Srinivas
Edited by: Srinivas Subramanyam Karnam on Jul 4, 2008 2:16 PM

I tried using switch control to check the condition (particular element(say JV) in the input msg is 0or 1 ) .But donno how to get ack and based on ack how to start other process.
             Let me take an example to make things clear.
say 1st process is creation of batch No.
       2nd -
do -
of sales order.
       3rd -
do----
of STO.
       4th -
do----
of SOD(SO dispatch).
If JV element in input msg is 1 ...flow should be like(1->2->4)
create BatchNo-> get ack->
if ack positive(:if ack Negative->end.)->create SO
->get ack->if ack positive(:if ack Negative->end.)->create SOD.End.
If JV =0 say...then similarly 1->2->3 end.
Not sure if i have to use while loop .. new to bpm :).Request to Reply with what controls to be used .
with due thanks srinivas.:)

Business process management (BPM)

How do business process mangement implmentation related to SAP BASIS guys.

Hi,
If you are talking about Solution manager BPM(Business Process Monitoring), its upto you how much you can relate, generally we used to do configuration on based upon inputs from fuctional consultants, so in case you dont have any solution mnaager consultant , you can collect the busness scenario related information and map the business process in solman setup , finally need to configre monitring based on scopes.Maximum input should come from business users to map.
Hope it will clear ,
Regards,

Permanent error in BPE inbound processing for BPM Mesg Split

Hi Friends,
i have done the below scenario. i had done everything what theys mentioned in the blog but i am getting the error in smq2 as "Permanent error in BPE inbound processing" sysfail please helpme on this issue.
Illustration of Multi-Mapping and Message Split using BPM in SAP Exchange Infrastructure

Hi Uday,
Please check this blog for your error, This is really interesting. Permanent solution for your question.
Delivery Modes in BPM.
Thanks!

Queries on Business Process Monitoring (BPM) & Interface Monitoring

Dear all,
I have got a few queries on the subject and would greatly appreciate any valuable inputs.
Before I proceed, want to clarify that I have downloaded all overtly available documents (PDFs, SIMs) from the following URLs:
http://service.sap.com/rkt-solman
http://service.sap.com/solutionmanager Media Library
http://service.sap.com/bpm Media Library
I may not have read them all though since I come from a Functional angle.
Kindly reply to whatever query you can please. Not all of them are sequential.
Queries:
(1) How are Interfaces with External Systems (beyond the firewall of the enterprise) monitored ?
(2) Is it really worth listing all such External Systems as Logical Components in their own right ? I guess this makes sense if at a Process Step level, one wants to list a 'specific' Logical Component involved instead of 'generic' term like External System. However, it would benefit only if Interface Monitoring is feasible; isn't it ?
(3) There are Interfaces which are built between SAP and External System and serve various Business Processes under various Business Scenarios. In such circumstances, it is not easy to list which Process 'owns' the Interface. Therefore, under a normal Implementation Project structure (SOLAR02), choosing a particular Process Step, getting into 'Development' Tab and listing the Interface Program name may not be feasible, since there is no particular place where it belongs.
Is it therefore a good idea to create namesake Scenario for capturing all interfaces and list a library of all interfaces and store documents right there ? If so, will these namesake processes be of any use in BPM at a later date ?
(4) If my primary objective is to accomplish Interface Monitoring and not Business Process Monitoring per se, is it a good idea to create a new Solution Landscape, and manually create Business Processes that are suited to list Interfaces than to assign Template or Implementation Project to the Solution Landscape, and inherit those Processes ?
(5) What is it that a SAP Competence (Support) Centre will find as a 'major' gain in activating BPM to monitor Interfaces alone - is there something that SolMan's BPM based Interface Monitoring gives more than what PI level reporting may provide them with ?
(6) In Interfaces with Non-SAP Systems (some of them are old/ proprietary legacy systems with Credit Card companies; some of them are like 'Active Directory' servers), is it possible to define Metrics for BPM that such systems will contribute to SolMan, for reporting purposes ? Or, is it too much to hope for
Thanks again, for your patience and advance thanks for your kind responses.
Srini
Bes

Hi,
Welcome to BPM
You have asked too many questions in a single Post, Please read rules of engagement before posting
You can monitor the following without any trouble.
● ALE/EDI
● qRFC
1) Its obvious, if your firewall blocks all your request to external enterprise, it is not possible to monitor.
3) These interfaces are not the one related to development tab in SOLAR02, you have to map them from BPM.
4) Yes, you don't have to depend on any project for your processes, you can add it in your Solution Landscape.
5) Post a Separate Thread!!!
6) Post a Separate Thread!!!
Hope this gives a better idea.
Feel free to revert back.
--Ragu

Instatiating BPM process through BPM 11g workspace

Hi ,
I am working on OPBM Sales Quote lab.
I installed Oracle SOA 11g and set up the BPM SalesQuote demo. I followed the demo setup instructions to add the roles and match them to demo users. I was able to deploy the demo successfully using Jdeveloper. Since the start task for the demo is a none start, I am not sure how to initiate a new instance. I loged in to the workspace as jcopper who's role is the SalesRep (which is the swimlane for the non start task). However, I didn't see any application listed for jcopper. I also loged in as the process owner and didn't see any application listed for him either.
I even referred to this thread
How to initiate an instance of the BPM 11g SalesQuote demo?
When I implemented the "Enter quote details" task, I even set its pattern as "Initiator"?
Even then Under applications it is empty.
Any Suggestions is appreciated.

Hello All,
Deployment of the "SalesQuoteDemo' demo is over. Logged in to BPM WorkSpace with user “jcooper” but I am not able to see application in the user's BPM Workspace. Verified all the users (and jcooper) and their role in Weblogic Default Realm and everything seems to be OK.
I have deployed SalesQuoteDemo from this official link of Oracle and have followed all steps. Users/Groups have been created by running a demo seeding program given along with demo.
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/middleware/soasuite/samples-demos-084065.html
I did these steps for verification.
•     RAM/PermGenSpace seems to be OK and there is no error/exception related to memory.
•     As per the demo, jcooper is part SalesRep role and it has been verified that both jcooper and SalesRep exists. Mapping also exists. Attaching few screenshots from Oracle Enterprise manager/BPM Workspace/Weblogic Console.
•     As per the Baig, mentioned that this issue was resolved when new domain was created without webcenter. For me, new domain is somehow not working and deployment are getting failed/suspended/prepared status but I had taken out Webcenter related Managed Server from this Weblogic domain.
•     Few have mentioned to login to Enterprise manager, select application, select security, role and map the user for every roles. I verified that this already exists.
Any help/pointers in this regards would be highly appreciated.
Thanks
Sachin G

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