Thumbnail image rotation

I have been allowing PSE8 to rotate my .jpg and .tif images based on the orientation metadata. When viewing the images in other apps (Windows Media Center for one) the images are, of course, not rotated.
Next, I turned off the feature to rotate them in PSE Edit/Preferences/Files and plan to rotate them in PSE so they show up right in all applications. However, after turning this feature off, the images still appear rotated in the PSE organizer. I tried refreshing the thumbnails, but that didn't correct it. I can rotate left, then right, and it seems to fix the problem in other programs, but this makes it difficult to verify which ones have actually been rotated because they all look the same in organizer.
Isn't there a way to refresh the thumbnails to see which have been actually rotated and which appear rotated based on the old setting?
Thanks,
...Rich

Barb,
Thanks. It is helpful to be able to search on the orientation data to select all portrait photos, but I haven't found a way to isolate those that haven't been (or have been) rotated. The pixels vary quite a bit, so searching on the number of pixels doesn't work. If one could search using a comparision, say width is less than height, that could work, but I don't see how to do that.
The BEST way to do this would be to find a way to update thumbnails to show orientation based on current setting to not rotate based on the metadata.
A related question. When one rotates a .jpg, does it lose quality? If I have to rotate left, then right to get them actually rotated, will the double rotation even further degenerate the quality?
Thanks,
...Rich

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I started a flash-based website a few years ago. Back in 2006 I was able to get a xml scrolling thumbnail, image loader to work without a glitch.
For numerous reasons I had to put the project on hold until now. [one was that my 30 day trial of flash expired and only recently was I able to purchase the Adobe Web Suite CS4 as well as a new computer which could run the apps.]
Last Friday saw a bump in the road in the development of my site as two, rather straightforward task, turned into something short of a nightmare as I have been unable to get past these two, seemingly, relatively simple task.
I have posted in 4 other flash forums the issues, in detail, that I am facing - and have quite a bit of interest/views in the topic as the numbers suggest - yet no response/answer as of yet. [Which confirms other messages I have seen which seem to state that working with buttons has become increasingly difficult with the newer version of flash - something Im a bit surprised with actually from Adobe. - I would have thought there would be a palette where you could set parameters...]
Screenshot of Site/Timeline:
Before getting into the two questions I have, I would like to post an image of the site as it looks whenever an swf file is saved out, as well as a piece of the timeline in the back for reference.
Issue #1
As of now when the swf file is saved out you get exactly what you see above:
a: A scrolling thumbnail
b: ...which loads a large image when clicked on it - PEFECT...
BUT...
1a: I need for the buttons to load in this action, not for it to just load on its own.
[i.e., the silk_paintings gallery is what is open, so I need the "silk_paintings" button to call up this action]
note: Initially I had attacked this problem by taking out the actions layer you see above and applying it directly to the individual buttons with some crude MouseEvent Listener/Handerls... that did not work - at all.
Im sure it may be "easier" to make an array out of it, but with my coding level it may be "easier" to apply it to the buttons.
1b: How I currently see it, I would take the xml-list and duplicate it for the number of galleries I have.
[I would then re-name the xml-list to reflect the name of the galleries they are to represent, i.e. "silk_paintings"]
[also, I would have to rename the folders to "thumbnails1,2,3, etc., & "images 1,2,3, etc"
From there I would duplicate the actions and paste it into the buttons, changing the xml-list name to that of "silk_paintings", etc., as well as write in the MouseEvent listener Handler to make it work. [ah, ha, but what is that magic phrase, I have tried to implement various code from other tutorials, and all in vein.]
Issue #2
At this point I would be tickled pink just to get this to basic function to work.
However, once the buttons are working and calling up the xml, etc., then I need the buttons to stay on the semi-transparent blue color it is whenever in the 'hit' state. [note: NOT pictured above.]
With the way the buttons are currently set up, and with wanting to use scripting to get them to interact with the thumbnail gallery, it will have to be some miraculous code to tell that button what color to stay as whenever its clicked, and of course it going back to white when another button is clicked.
Conclusion:
Since this is an Adobe Forum I would like to make a few additional statements in hopes that the developers, etc. may take heed.
Adobes products are not cheap, and when I went to purchase the websuite I went in as a designer needing a program as not to need to program.
I understand the flexibility that coding gives, but something as simple as linking buttons should not be in the realms of rocket science. [yes, for many its not...but my brain just does not operate that route despite all the tutorials thrown at me.]
Again, it would seem that there would be a button panel where you could drag options like scrolling thumbnail slider, loader, and then parameters would come up. [much like Apples iWeb. - but before the argument of one being pro and the other for non-pros, I see it differently. Software should not be the limiting factor in how flexible you can design, or rather ones lack of programming shouldnt be. With all the talented, and I say this in all humility and honesty, programmers working for Adobe, Im sure something could be programmed like what Im asking for.]
note: Director is a good example, back in 1997 I knew nothing of multimedia and in one week I had assembled a portfolio, clicking buttons, speech, movies, and all. - and no, I dont have the money to buy more software!
At this moment I am at the mercy of someone who reads code like its a nighttime tale they are telling their kids, and who can see the exact issue I have and can share the appropriate, correct code. [as I have noticed, it has to be on target - naturally - but this target changes with just a slight change in the design.]
Thank you,
peace
Dalen
p.s.
The actionscript: [note: This is only the current working/good code that Im trying to get the buttons to call up.]
stop();
fscommand("allowscale", false);//keep SWF display at 100%
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x.ignoreWhite = true;
var fullURL:Array = new Array;//Array of full size image urls
var thumbURL:Array = new Array;//Array of thumbnail urls
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x.onLoad = function(){ //Function runs after XML is loaded
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          thumbURL.push(photos[i].attributes.thumbs);//Each loop, adds URL for thumbnails to Array thumbURL
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          t._x = thumbX;//Set X coordinate of variable movie clip based on variable thumbX
          t.numb = i;//Set sub-variable 'numb' inside variable t to hold index number
          t._alpha = 75;//Set the Alpha value of the variable movie clip to 75% - for onRollOver highlight action
          thumbX += 55;//Increment thumbX value so next thumbnail is placed 125 pixels to the right of the one before
          t.onRollOver = function () {//define onRollOver event of the variable movie clip
               this._alpha = 100;//Set thumbnail alpha to 100% for highlight
          t.onRollOut = function () {//define onRollOut event of the variable movie clip
               this._alpha = 75;//Reset thumbnail alpha to 75%
          t.onPress = function () {//define onPress event of the variable movie clip
               this._rotation += 3;//rotates thumbnail 3 degrees to indicate it's been pressed
               this._x += 3;//Offset X coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during rotation
               this._y -= 3;//Offset Y coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during rotation
          t.onReleaseOutside = function () {//define onRelease event of the variable movie clip
               this._rotation -= 3;//rotate thumbnail back 3 degrees
               this._x -= 3;//Reset X coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during rotation
               this._y += 3;//Reset Y coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during rotation
               this._alpha = 75;//Reset thumbnail alpha to 75%
          t.onRelease = function () {//define onRelease function to load full sized image
               this._rotation -= 3;//rotate thumbnail back 3 degrees
               this._x -= 3;//Reset X coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during
               this._y += 3;//Reset Y coordinate by 3 pixels to keep clip centered during
               this._alpha = 75;//Reset thumbnail alpha to 75%
               holder.loadMovie(fullURL[this.numb]);//Load full sized image into holder clip based on sub-variable t.numb, referenced by 'this'
     holder.loadMovie(fullURL[0]);//Initially load first full size image into holder clip
x.load ("silk_paintings.xml");// path to XML file
panel.onRollOver = panelOver;
function panelOver() {
     this.onEnterFrame = scrollPanel;
     delete this.onRollOver;
var b = stroke.getBounds(_root);
function scrollPanel() {
     if (_xmouse<b.xMin||_xmouse>b.xMax||_ymouse<b.yMin||_ymouse>b.yMax) {
     this.onRollOver = panelOver;
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     if (panel._x >= 740) {
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<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<slideshow>
<photo thumbs="thumbnails/i_brown_fairy.jpg" urls="images/brown_fairy.jpg" />
<photo thumbs="thumbnails/i_blonde_fairy.jpg" urls="images/blonde_fairy.jpg" />
<photo thumbs="thumbnails/i_flower_fairy.jpg" urls="images/flower_fairy.jpg" />
<photo thumbs="thumbnails/i_red_fairy.jpg" urls="images/red-fairy.jpg" />
</slideshow>
Attached is a link to the file I made named "index".
https://rcpt.yousendit.com/706233226/5e7b4fe0973dacf090b5cbae32c47398
I would have liked to have included the following files but was limited due to "you-send-it" not uploading folders. Files not included: [but functioning] : xml list - images [folder] - thumbnails [folder]
Again, Thank you
Dalen

The issues with the buttons calling up the scrolling thumbnail panel have been resolved, as well as keeping the buttons in their hit state once clicked, thanks to Rob.
Those that have been following this thread, or stumble upon it in their searches later, may appreciate to see the final solution to this particular issue.
[Hopefully I will be able to update this thread with a url in the future to show the site in operation, which may help somebody with their project in the future if its set up similarly.]
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stop();
fscommand("allowscale", false);//keep SWF display at 100%
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x.ignoreWhite = true;
var fullURL:Array = new Array();//Array of full size image urls
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// ....... CHANGE
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     if (!this.isLatched) {
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// the rolloff function... repeat for each button
shadesOfGrey.onRollOut = shadesOfGrey.onDragOut=shadesOfGrey.onReleaseOutside=function ():Void {
     if (!this.isLatched) {
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shadesOfGrey.onPress = function():Void {
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     this.isLatched = true;
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shadesOfGrey.onRelease = function():Void {
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function resetAllButtons():Void {
     for (b in buttonsList) {
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x.onLoad = function() {//Function runs after XML is loaded
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     for (i=0; i<photos.length; i++) {//For loop to step through all entry lines of XML file
          fullURL.push(photos[i].attributes.urls);//Each loop, adds URL for full sized image to Array fullURL
          thumbURL.push(photos[i].attributes.thumbs);//Each loop, adds URL for thumbnails to Array thumbURL
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          var t = panel.attachMovie("b", "b"+i, i);//Each loop, Define local variable 't' as a new instance of 'b' movie clip, given unique instance name of 'b' plus the index number of the For loop
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stroke.onEnterFrame = function() {
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          if ((panel._x<=740) && (panel._x>=740-panel._width+mask._width)) {
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Of note is the change to how the movie clips are measured... this change in and of itself has really helped to make the thumbnail panels operation more efficient.
Below is the script for each additional button: [Having issues with the forums not letting me post additional code, so I will put the remaining code in a reply below.]
cont.

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Mike

Mike
This is not Adobe. Rather user to user. We are all visitors here.
Just a bit of history....back in the days of Premiere Elements 4, you could set a "poster frame" in what was called the Project area. You did this by right clicking a blank area there and, from the drop down menu that appeared, selecting View/Preview Area, and using the poster frame feature there.
As I said, when a video imports into Premiere Elements, the thumbnail of the import has been presenting as the first frame of the video. With this Preview area "poster frame" option, you could set the video's thumbnail in the Project area so that the first frame was another frame in the video. But, this "perk" was restricted to thumbnails of the video in Project area.
If you exported to file with the first frame modified video, the export's thumbnail in Windows Explorer would present with other than the real first frame or the poster frame as the first frame.
Also, in more recent versions, I have observed that the export to file does not display the real first frame of the video in Windows Explorer. Seems random, but I have not kept track.
And, remember, at the onset I wrote
As far as I have ever seen, Premiere Elements Windows uses the first frame of the video for its thumbnail in the program.
I know of no way within Premiere Elements to control what the program opts to do in this matter. In some compatibility
issues, it opts to give no image but a generic one.
I did not say that you can expect to have the Premiere Elements' export file's thumbnail in Windows displaying with its real first frame. And, the more you get into this, depending on the versions, more details need to be added to my comment about "...first frame of video for its thumbnail in the program..."
I would have to look into all this further to get perspective on the contributing factors.
ATR
Add On...The Poster Frame feature appeared in versions 4, 7, 8, and 9 by my count.

How can I create an effect to cycle through several sets of 12 thumbnail images rather than just one

Hello
I've searched everywhere i can think of and had no luck so thought it's about time i asked for help.
How do I create an effect where a group of 12 thumbnail images (all with clickable links) can scroll across by clicking a button to reveal another set of 12 thumbnails and so on without having to refresh the page, im assuming jquery can help but every single slideshow or scroll effect I've come across is for single images and not a set of images.
Its a gallery part of my website and the images are in sets of 4 in 3 rows.
All and any help will be greatly apprieciated!
Anthony

I think what you want is a Carousel Scroller. See Demo and Examples
http://dimsemenov.com/plugins/touchcarousel/
Nancy O.

Need help to show a thumbnail image column in report

Hi, Gurus:
I need to display a column of thumbnail images in a classical report. I follow the thread https://kr.forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2201667
I am using APEX 4.1, Oracle 11gR2
Here is my table:
CREATE TABLE "SORS"."SOR_IMAGE"
   (     "IMAGE_ID" NUMBER(10,0),
     "OFFENDER_ID" NUMBER(10,0) NOT NULL ENABLE,
     "IMAGE" BLOB CONSTRAINT "SOR_IMAGE" NOT NULL ENABLE,
     "THUMBNAIL" BLOB,
     "MIME_TYPE" VARCHAR2(50 BYTE),
      CONSTRAINT "SOR_IMAGE_PK" PRIMARY KEY ("IMAGE_ID")
)Here is my procedure:
create or replace
procedure dl_sor_thumbnail (p_offender_id IN NUMBER) as
   v_mime_type VARCHAR2(48);
   v_length NUMBER;
   v_name VARCHAR2(2000);
   v_image BLOB;
BEGIN
SELECT 'IMAGE/JPEG', dbms_lob.getlength(thumbnail), thumbnail
INTO v_mime_type, v_length, v_image
FROM sor_image
WHERE offender_id = p_offender_id
and image_id = (select max(image_id)from sor_image where offender_id = p_offender_id) ;
-- setup the HTTP headers
owa_util.mime_header(nvl(v_mime_type, 'application/octet'), FALSE);
htp.p('Content-length: '||v_length);
--htp.p('Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="' || substr(v_name, instr(v_name,'/') + 1) || '"');
--htp.p('Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="'somemmmmmfilename.jpg'");
-- close the headers
owa_util.http_header_close;
-- download the Photo blob
wpg_docload.download_file (v_image);
END dl_sor_thumbnail;here is my report:
select distinct 'MAP', '<img src="#OWNER#.dl_sor_thumbnail?p_offender_id='||so.offender_ID||'"/>' detail,
so.doc_number as "DOC Number", so.offender_id as "Offender_ID", so.first_name||' '|| so.middle_name||' '||so.last_name as "Offender Name",
so.checksum as "checksum",
so.last_name as "Last Name",
so.first_name||' '|| so.middle_name as "First Name",
(select sc1.description from sor_code sc1 where sc1.code_id=so.race) as "Race",
(select sc2.description from sor_code sc2 where sc2.code_id=so.sex) as "Sex",
(select sc8.description from sor_code sc8 where sc8.code_id=so.hair_color) as "Hair Color",
(select sc9.description from sor_code sc9 where sc9.code_id=so.eye_color) as "Eye Color",
replace(replace(nvl2(sl.address1, sl.address1||' '||sl.address2 ||' '||sl.city ||' '||sl.county||' '||(select sc3.description from sor_code sc3 where sc3.code_id=sl.state)||' '||sl.zip, '-'),'#'),',') as "Address",
replace(replace(nvl2(sl.physical_address1,sl.physical_address1||' '||sl.physical_city ||' '||sl.physical_county||' '||(select sc4.description from sor_code sc4 where sc4.code_id=sl.physical_state)||' '||sl.physical_zip, '-'),'#'),',') as "Physical Address",
sl.status as "Status",
to_char(sl.ADDRESS1_LATITUDE) as "Address Latitude",to_char(sl.address1_longitude) as "Address Longitude",
to_char(sl.physical_address_latitude) as "Physical Latitude",to_char(sl.physical_address_Longitude) as "Physical Longitude",
decode(rox.habitual, 'Y', 'Habitual', '') as "Habitual",
decode(rox.aggravated, 'Y', 'Aggravated', '') as "Aggravated"
from sor_location sl, sor_offender so, registration_offender_xref rox, sor_last_locn_v sllv
where rox.offender_id=so.offender_id
and sllv.offender_id(+)=so.offender_id
and sl.location_id(+)=sllv.location_id
and rox.status not in ('Merged')
and rox.REG_TYPE_ID=:F119_REG_ID
and upper(rox.status)='ACTIVE'
and nvl(rox.admin_validated, to_date(1,'J'))>=nvl(rox.entry_date, to_date(1,'J'))
and (((select sc11.description from sor_code sc11 where sc11.code_id=so.race and sc11.code_id=:P5_SL_RACE) is not null ) or (:P5_SL_RACE is null))
and (((select sc12.description from sor_code sc12 where sc12.code_id=so.sex and sc12.code_id=:P5_SL_SEX) is not null ) or (:P5_SL_SEX is null))
and (((select sc13.description from sor_code sc13 where sc13.code_id=so.hair_color and sc13.code_id=:P5_SL_HAIR_COLOR) is not null ) or (:P5_SL_HAIR_COLOR is null))
and (((select sc14.description from sor_code sc14 where sc14.code_id=so.eye_color and sc14.code_id=:P5_SL_EYE_COLOR) is not null ) or (:P5_SL_EYE_COLOR is null))
and (exists ( (select sm.offender_id from sor_mark sm, sor_code sc15 where sm.offender_id=so.offender_id and sc15.code_id=sm.code and sc15.code_id=:P5_SL_OTHER_MARKS and sm.description is not null) ) or (:P5_SL_OTHER_MARKS is null))
and ((exists (select sm1.description from sor_mark sm1 where sm1.offender_id=so.offender_id and upper(sm1.description) like upper('%'||:P5_TF_OTHER_MARKS_DESCRIPTION||'%'))) or (:P5_TF_OTHER_MARKS_DESCRIPTION is null))
and ((floor(to_number(sysdate-so.date_of_birth)/365)-:P5_TF_AGE between -5 and 5) or (:P5_TF_AGE is null))
and ((to_number(:P5_TF_HEIGHT_FEET)*12+to_number(nvl2(:P5_TF_HEIGHT_INCHES, :P5_TF_HEIGHT_INCHES, '0')-(floor(so.height/100)*12+mod(so.height, 100))) between -6 and 6) or (:P5_TF_HEIGHT_FEET is null))
and ((so.weight-:P5_TF_WEIGHT between -25 and 25) or (:P5_TF_WEIGHT is null))and I set detail column as standard report column.
however, the report shows no image, just an icon which indicates the image is not available. Would anyone help me on this problem?
Thanks a lot.
Sam
Edited by: lxiscas on Apr 16, 2013 1:59 PM

lxiscas wrote:
I need to display a column of thumbnail images in a classical report. I follow the thread https://kr.forums.oracle.com/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=2201667
Bad choice. Only one person involved in that thread knew what they were doing...and you copied from the wrong one.
Here is my procedure:Lose it. Custom download procedures are overcomplicated and now almost never required.
See the recommendation to use declarative BLOB support, as shown in the Thumbnail image problems.

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I especially need help making it crisp and clear.
Thank you!

And there will be occasions when it's not better, and there are alternative ways to get better results.
You may not have tested every situation and font, but I've done enough to know that sometimes it doesn't work as expected. And it wasn't a "challenge", it was an observation.
Here's 3 ways to make a JPEG - and the one that is the best is the one that was exported to PDF and then opened in Photoshop and then Saved as a JPEG.
.........Direct Export .........................Export PDF................................Export PDF
.....to JPEG.from ID.....................Open in Photoshop.............Save to JPEG from Acrobat.
(EDIT - The forum is adding extra compression to the images - I assure you the middle image is the best)

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Thanks Russ. After returning to original layout the problem subsided but returned after a longer time period (about two hours). I was just working (on a different project) and suddenly %90 of the thumbnails turned blue. I could still see the audio information but the pictures vanished. The picture returns when the scrubbing bar hovers over the thumbnail then disappears again when I take the bar away. This is incredibly frustrating. Could it be because I'm using a thunderboldt display off of my Mac Book Pro? Both are less than 1 year old and the Pro is (was) top of the line at the time. Blind as a bat.

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I have created a BC4J application using the default wizards that displays the content of the following table:
CREATE TABLE EMPLOYEE_PHOTO (
ID NUMBER (3) NOT NULL,
DESCRIPTION VARCHAR2 (20),
PIC ORDIMAGE,
THUMB ORDIMAGE,
EMPLOYEE_NAME VARCHAR2 (50))
The 'browse' jsp displays the id, description and thumb image.
The 'edit' jsp allows the user to enter the description, employee_name and upload file details for the pic image.
I have 2 problems with the application.
1. How do I set the 'browse' jsp to display the thumb image as an anchor tag that points to the 'edit' jsp ?. I would also like to dynamically set the hint text for the thumb image to 'employee_name' from the database table.
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Chris,
Basically, you have to use the "manual" mode of the rendering instead of the "automatic" mode. The JDev Wizard
generated JSP page uses the "automatic" mode which is hard to customize. The characteristic of the "automatic"
mode is using the <AttributeIterate> tag to iterate through all attributes. You have to change the following JSP files
to achieve what you wanted.
1. DataTableComponent.jsp
<%@ page language="java" import = "oracle.jbo.html.*, oracle.jbo.*" %>
<%@ taglib uri="/webapp/DataTags.tld" prefix="jbo" %>
<%
RequestParameters params = HtmlServices.getRequestParameters(pageContext);
String editTargetParam = params.getParameter("edittarget");
if ("null".equalsIgnoreCase(editTargetParam))
editTargetParam = null;
%>
<jbo:DataSourceRef id="dsBrowse" reference='<%=params.getParameter("datasource")%>' />
<table class="clsTable" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3">
<tr class="clsTableRow"><%
if (editTargetParam != null)
%>
<th class="clsTableHeader"> </th>
<th class="clsTableHeader"><a href="<jbo:UrlEvent targeturlparam='edittarget' event='Create' datasource='dsBrowse' extraparameters='<%=originURL=" + params.getParameter("originURL")%">'/>">New</a></th><%
%>
<th title="<jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Id"/>" class="vrTableHeader"><jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Id">##Column</jbo:ShowHint></th>
<th title="<jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Description"/>" class="vrTableHeader"><jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Description">##Column</jbo:ShowHint></th>
<th title="<jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Thumb"/>" class="vrTableHeader"><jbo:ShowHint datasource="dsBrowse" hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Thumb">##Column</jbo:ShowHint></th>
</tr><%
Row currentRow = dsBrowse.getRowSet().getCurrentRow();
%>
<jbo:RowsetIterate datasource="dsBrowse" changecurrentrow="false" userange="true">
<jbo:Row id="aRow" datasource="dsBrowse" action="Active"/><%
String rowStyle;
if (aRow == currentRow)
rowStyle = "clsCurrentTableRow";
else
rowStyle = "clsTableRow";
%>
<tr class="<%=rowStyle%>"><%
if (editTargetParam != null)
%>
<td class="tablecell"><a href="<jbo:UrlEvent targeturlparam='originURL' event='Delete' datasource='dsBrowse' addrowkey='true'/>">Delete</a>
</td>
<td class="tablecell"><a href="<jbo:UrlEvent targeturlparam='edittarget' event='Edit' datasource='dsBrowse' addrowkey='true' extraparameters='<%="originURL=" + params.getParameter("originURL")%>'/>">Edit</a>
</td><%
%>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Id"/>" class="tablecell" >
<jbo:RenderValue datasource="dsBrowse" dataitem="Id">##Cell</jbo:RenderValue>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Description"/>" class="tablecell" >
<jbo:RenderValue datasource="dsBrowse" dataitem="Description">##Cell</jbo:RenderValue>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Thumb"/>" class="tablecell" >
<A href="<jbo:UrlEvent targeturlparam='edittarget' event='Edit' datasource='dsBrowse' addrowkey='true' extraparameters='<%="originURL=" + params.getParameter("originURL")%>'/>">
<jbo:EmbedImage datasource="dsBrowse" mediaattr="Thumb" altattr="EmployeeName" />
</A>
</td>
</tr>
</jbo:RowsetIterate>
</table>
2. DataEditComponent.jsp
<%@ page language="java" import = "oracle.jbo.html.*" %>
<%@ taglib uri="/webapp/DataTags.tld" prefix="jbo" %>
<%
RequestParameters params = HtmlServices.getRequestParameters(pageContext);
String dsParam = params.getParameter("datasource");
String formName = dsParam + "_form";
String rowAction = "Current";
%>
<jbo:DataSourceRef id="dsEdit" reference="<%=dsParam%>" />
<jbo:OnEvent name="edit" datasource="dsEdit">
<% rowAction = "Get"; %>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<jbo:OnEvent name="create" datasource="dsEdit">
<% rowAction = "Create"; %>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<form name="<%=formName%>" action="<%=params.getParameter("targetURL")%>" method="post" enctype="multipart/form-data">
<jbo:Row id="rowEdit" datasource="dsEdit" rowkeyparam="jboRowKey" action="<%=rowAction%>">
<table border="0">
<tr>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Id"/>" align="right">
<b>
<jbo:ShowHint hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Id">##Column</jbo:ShowHint>
</b>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Id"/>">
<jbo:InputRender datasource="dsEdit" dataitem="Id" formname="<%=formName%>" />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Description"/>" align="right">
<b>
<jbo:ShowHint hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Description">##Column</jbo:ShowHint>
</b>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Description"/>">
<jbo:InputRender datasource="dsEdit" dataitem="Description" formname="<%=formName%>" />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Pic"/>" align="right">
<b>
<jbo:ShowHint hintname="LABEL" dataitem="Pic">##Column</jbo:ShowHint>
</b>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="Pic"/>">
<jbo:InputRender datasource="dsEdit" dataitem="Pic" formname="<%=formName%>" />
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="EmployeeName"/>" align="right">
<b>
<jbo:ShowHint hintname="LABEL" dataitem="EmployeeName">##Column</jbo:ShowHint>
</b>
</td>
<td title="<jbo:ShowHint hintname='TOOLTIP' dataitem="EmployeeName"/>">
<jbo:InputRender datasource="dsEdit" dataitem="EmployeeName" formname="<%=formName%>" />
</td>
</tr>
</table>
<jbo:FormEvent event="update" datasource="dsEdit" addrowkey="true" />
</jbo:Row>
<%-- Pass along originURL parameter --%>
<input type="hidden" name="originURL" value="<%=params.getParameter("originURL")%>">
<input type="submit" value="Update">
<input type="reset" value="Reset">
</form>
3. DataHandlerComponent.jsp
<%@ page language="java" %>
<%@ page errorPage="errorpage.jsp" %>
<%@ page import="oracle.jbo.ApplicationModule" %>
<%@ page import="oracle.jbo.html.*" %>
<%@ page import="oracle.ord.im.*" %>
<%@ taglib uri="/webapp/DataTags.tld" prefix="jbo" %>
<%
RequestParameters params = HtmlServices.getRequestParameters(pageContext);
String targetParam = params.getParameter("targetURL");
String amId = params.getParameter("amId");
String voName = params.getParameter("jboEventVo");
%>
<%
if (voName != null)
{ %>
<jbo:DataSource id="ds" appid="<%=amId%>" viewobject="<%=voName%>" />
<jbo:OnEvent name="update">
<jbo:Row id="myrow" datasource="ds" rowkeyparam="jboRowKey" action="Update" />
<%
myrow.setAttribute("Thumb", new OrdImageDomain());
String myRowKey = myrow.getKey().toStringFormat(false);
%>
<jbo:PostChanges appid="<%=amId%>" />
<jbo:Row id="theRow" datasource="ds" action="Find" rowkeyparam="jboRowKey" >
<%
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%>
</jbo:Row>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<jbo:OnEvent name="delete">
<jbo:Row id="delrow" datasource="ds" rowkeyparam="jboRowKey" action="Delete" />
</jbo:OnEvent>
<%-- Scroll event handling --%>
<jbo:OnEvent list="firstset, nextset, previousset, lastset">
<jbo:RowsetNavigate datasource="ds" />
</jbo:OnEvent>
<%-- Navigation event handling --%>
<jbo:OnEvent list="first, next, previous, last">
<jbo:RowsetNavigate datasource="ds" />
</jbo:OnEvent>
<%-- Query event handling --%>
<jbo:OnEvent name="Del Criteria" >
<% String remove = params.getParameter("index"); %>
<jbo:ViewCriteria id="vc" datasource="ds" action="append">
<jbo:CriteriaRow id="row<%=remove%>" index="<%=remove%>" clearall="true" />
</jbo:ViewCriteria>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<jbo:OnEvent name="Clear All" >
<jbo:ViewCriteria id="vc" datasource="ds" action="new" />
</jbo:OnEvent>
<jbo:OnEvent list="Search, Add Criteria" >
<% String rowParam = params.getParameter("nRows");
int nRows = 0;
if (rowParam != null)
try { nRows = Integer.parseInt(rowParam); }
catch (Exception ex) { }
%>
<jbo:ViewCriteria id="vc" datasource="ds" action="new">
<% for (int index=0; index < nRows; index++)
{ %>
<jbo:CriteriaRow id="row<%=index%>" >
<jbo:AttributeIterate id="attrvc" datasource="ds" queriableonly="true">
<% String item = attrvc.getName();
String value = params.getParameter("row" + index + "_" + item); %>
<jbo:Criteria dataitem="<%=item%>" value="<%=value%>" />
</jbo:AttributeIterate>
</jbo:CriteriaRow>
<% } %>
</jbo:ViewCriteria>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<% }%>
<%-- Transaction event handling --%>
<jbo:OnEvent name="Commit" >
<jbo:Commit appid="<%=amId%>"/>
</jbo:OnEvent>
<jbo:OnEvent name="Rollback" >
<jbo:RollBack appid="<%=amId%>"/>
</jbo:OnEvent>
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richard
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