Tiger Mail with Leopard

New iMac 2.4 Ghz - OSX 10.5.1. Since I loaded Leopard, mail will send to server smtp.att.yahoo.com successfully one time in four tries. Error message says server doesn't support authentication. Standard speed AT&T DSL. Receiving mail and send or receive mail in Yahoo mail is solid. Mail will send through AOL server every time. All settings are correct. Second level of Apple Help couldn't fix. AT&T help has convinced me that because Yahoo mail uses same authentication logic the problem is in Mac Mail. Have reinstalled Mail and Leopard. No Help.
Can I remove mail that came with Leopard and install the older version that was with Tiger? It worked fine.

Try going to Mail/Preferences/Accounts/Outgoing SMTP Server for the email account you're having a problem with/Edit Server list/click on the server you're having the problem with/Advanced tab and enter 587 in Server port box, Authentication Password, enter your account's user name and password.
I've been having odds and ends of SMTP issues for years from home because I use DSL on a local phone network. It won't allow authentication when used at home because I'm already logged into the network at home. But, away from home one MUST use authentication. Similarly, Earthlink won't allow access to its SMTP servers from another ISP's network, assuming your computer may be generating SPAM email since it can't confirm who you are. The work around is to use port 587 with your email account's authentication. Not everyone opens port 587, but it works more often than not.

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