Understanding Fluid Grid Layout

Hi,
First of all - I apologize - my English is bad, but I hope you will understand me.
I'm currently watching some video tutorials about responsive web design, particularly about Fluid Grid Layout/Dreamweaver.
To get to the point and to be as simple as possible, my question is: In what cases elements do NOT need to have class="fluid"?
For example, here's part of the code from one video tutorial:
<body>
    <div class="gridContainer clearfix">
        <header id="header" class="fluid">
            <h1>The Best Site Ever!</h1>
            <nav id="mainnav" class="fluid">
                <ul>
                    <li><a href="index.html">Home</a></li>
                    <li><a href="about.html">About Us</a></li>
                    <li><a href="products.html">Products</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Services</a></li>
                    <li><a href="#">Contact</a></li>
                </ul>
            </nav>
        </header>
        <article id="intro" class="fluid">
            <h2>Some Title</h2>
            <p>Some thext... </p>
        </article>
As you can see above, <header> and <article> elements that are child-elements of <div class="gridContainer clearfix"> have class="fluid". But, let's look inside <header> element - there are two child-elemets: <h1> without and <nav> with class="fluid".
Now, correct me if I'm wrong - If some element has child-elements - it must have class="fluid" (except for the case with ul/ol and its child-elements li), right? For example, element <article id="intro"> must have class="fluid" because it has child element <h2> and <p>, but those child elements will not have class="fluid" because they don't have child-elements. On the other side, child-element (of the <header id="header" class="fluid">) <nav id="mainnav" will have class="fluid" because it has child element (ul). Only in case of lists there are exceptions...

Thank you for your response. It isn't the snapping that appears to be the problem. This is an example of what I'm trying to do. Excel was the best way for me to provide a visual. Is this possible? Every time I try to place divs in a similar layout, the div will not take up multiple rows. For example div 4 would move down and where row 7 is would now be row 4. Div 2 would have also moved down because of 5. I have a large image that needs to be placed to the left of a header and vertical menu. I'm trying to keep the header and menu seperate and the image needs to be aligned to the top left of the text. I'm sorry that I'm overcomplicating this. I must admit it surprises me that the fluid grid appears to be dictated by rows. I'm wondering if for this particular design I should just stick to a table.

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<style>
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Brian McNay wrote:
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Am I supposed to have a div#page and div data-role="header"?
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</body>
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#1 Success with FGLayouts comes from experience. I built 9 test layouts before I got an acceptable one. A few tips. Build Mobile first because that is what everything else is based on. Then build Tablet & finally Desktop. Do not tamper with code in FluidGrid.css or Boilerplate.css files. Use a separate, external style sheet for your content styles.
#2 Depends on whether or not you want the divs to fall outside your #gridContainer. For example, let's say you want a 100% width header & footer that stretches the entire width of your page in all devices. In that scenario, you would have to move <header> and <footer> tags above and below gridContainer div. Otherwise, everything else needs to be inside the gridContainer in order to respond to the media queries.
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This question goes back to one I asked a while ago but it is different. I decided to update to DW CC and I can't tell you how much I love it as
I have watched all of the tutorials and find it much easier than the previous version.
One thing I decided to do was to use the Dreamweaver Fluid Grid layout. I totally understand how it works for the most part. When I go to DW CC and the load up screen, I Select fluid grid layouts and then I am presented with a smartphone version, a tablet version, and a desktop version. I left the defaults as they seem to be updated and correct. This is the thing, I design my mockups in PS. I guess I am baffled on how to code that offer to DW. When I always created a fixed layout, I would easily just measure out the divs in PS and then create them in DW sizing everything to perfectly match my initial mockup.
Now that I am using a fluid layout. I am presented with columns. Again, I left them as the default. My question is, I am designing in PS, I am designing for a specific resolution of 1024x768. But I am just confused on if I need to decrease columns or add columns to fit that, or if I even need to at all. For my specific resolution, should I change the desktop columns to somehow correspond to a 1024x768 resolution? The default is 12 columns. In Photoshop, is there a way to insert a fluid like grid to help me with my mockup?
Sorry if this is a lot, but I would appreciate any help, thank you so much!

Hi Nancy! I hope you have been well. Thanks so much for taking the time to post screen shots.
I thought I just needed to create a mockup in PS with a 1024x768 resolution, and slice images. With the fluid layout, I inserted for example, my header image or banner at the top and I inserted it in the desktop view, it looked normal. It was sliced in a 1024 x 768 mockup. But, when I go to tablet and smartphone, it shrinks and it looks distorted almost. Is there something I am doing wrong?
You stated that I needed to create 3 mockups in PS based on those sizes. Does that mean I would have to slice them all and place them in their proper sized sections smart phone, tablet, and desktop?
Here is a video I watched. It seems like this guy used the same image and it looks just fine in all sizes. Create fluid, responsive web pages in Dreamweaver | Learn Dreamweaver CC | Adobe TV

Total Crash (CC) on attempting to Create a Fluid Grid Layout!

I hope someone can recreate this, because I'm climbing up the walls right now. Where to start? I'm trying to create a single fluid-grid page. I'm too tired to repeat the steps concisely, but after being prompted to save my CSS, I do. That's when the errors begin.
First one:
2) Then, when opening the files, it's just blank. No grids, no layout code, just a plain HTML file. So, then,I figure I should save everything, to "generate" the boilerplate CSS, and the JQuery min page, which should probably appear by default, but I go to save anyway. That's when it crashes. So, I open again. Try to open the first file I created: crash.
3) So, I figured maybe my installation was botched. I uninstall and reinstall. Same crashes. So, I figured maybe there might be corrupt files in my web folder (really just trying anything at this point.) So, I create a brand-new site. Same exact scenario.
Now, I understand no one has really had an opportunity to experiment, so this is probably a silly exercise, but maybe someone can recreate this?
I'm too tired to explain anymore but I was really, really hoping that I could use this option to lay out a working comp for a client. Job starts Wednesday. It's not possible to learn Responsive Design in a week, as someone suggested, so I'm really at a loss... I simple don't know what to do!

Hi jonfreed77,
People facing similar issue, posted following resolution in another thread recently.
Please give it a try and confirm if they work for you.
8. pcepp,
20 Jun, 2013 8:24 AM in reply to pcepp
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I found a solution that worked for me.
I removed all the fonts that Adobe CC installed out of my Library:Fonts folder and just left in the Apple Basic fonts like Arial, Courier etc... Launched Dreamweaver CC and the CSS designer panel works. I have no idea exactly which font it is, or creating the conflict. All I know is that it works great now.
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9. dogdog63,
20 Jun, 2013 10:11 AM in reply to dogdog63
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very strange - I installed Illustrator CC and then I had no more problems with Dreamweaver! No more crashes when close or create files and no more problems with the CSS designer. Error messages during create fluid grid layouts are also gone ...
Michel:
I think I figured it out on the Mac. Be sure that Verdana is activated in Font Book. What tipped me off to this was a warning I was receiving when trying to open After Effects. It was saying that the program needed Verdana for the user interface to work. I thought that maybe Dreamweaver needed Verdana too. Sure enough! Hope this helps you guys.

Using Fluid Grid layouts | Learn Dreamweaver CS6 | Adobe TV

Designing for multiple screens can be a difficult and time-consuming task. The new Fluid Grid feature in Dreamweaver CS6 gives designers a visual way to control page layout for multiple screen sizes. It also automatically integrates cross-browser consistency through the use of HTML5 boilerplate and the respond.js library.
http://adobe.ly/IUFngo

Although the whole fluid grid layout feature suffers from a terrible implementation, this video explains what is needed to understand, and warns very well for all the strange culprits in this feature.
It takes time for most designers to get used to the idea of fluidity in a visual representation of information, and let structural building blocks flow according to alternating views and rules. Let's hope Adobe Edge Reflow helps us doing that in a better, faster way.

Cs6 fluid grid layout wide-screen resolution issue

Hi all, I've done some poking around but have not found anything that answers this question - if I missed something please pass me the link!
So I'm doing a new site in cs6 with fluid grid layouts. It's fine in terms of screen sizes, that is, small medium large, but different resolutions make the content appear differently. Specifically on desktop size screens with wide-screen resolutions (eg 1600X1200) the content is squeezed up towards the top of the page. The background image is fine on all resolutions - fills the screen - but the content on top changes according to the resolution. On my screen (1600X900) there's a nice distribution of content vertically. Is there any way to make it so that the content adjusts for resolution, not just size? Thanks in advance.

What I'd like is for the widescreen view not to change the vertical distribution. That is, on my screen the content fills about 3/4 of the screen, which looks fine. On widescreen resolution, it barely covers 2/3 and it looks top-heavy - users I've asked with widescreen resolutions have said "it looks squished towards the top, why don't you move it down?". I guess I don't understand, if height as well as width is determined in percentage, why this happens (that lack of understanding could reveal my fundamental lack of understanding of aspect ratio/mathematics in general ).
I suppose I could give a bigger margin at the top to move the content down the page in all cases, but on my screen, not widescreen, that's not ideal. And I'm hoping there's a way to adjust for widescreen without affecting all resolutions.

How do I get my Fluid Grid Layout page to resizes from portrait to landscape for iPhones?

Starting in portrait on my iPhone 4, the fluid grid layout page does not resize when I turn to landscape. After I refresh / resize to fit the page on landscape and then turn the iPhone to portrait, the page resizes just fine. Everything seems to be working just fine on the desktop, ignoring IE. Could it be my media query tags?
If anyone knows a solution, it would be much appreciated. Thanks.
Here is my test page: http://www.bedroomandmore.com/1_b_fluidGrid.html
Here are my media query tags (the first set of rules does not have the media query tag and becomes the default):
@media only screen and (max-device-width: 480px) and (orientation : landscape) {
@media only screen and (min-width: 481px) {
@media only screen and (min-width: 769px) {
Here is most of my media query CSS:
@charset "UTF-8";
/* Simple fluid media
   Note: Fluid media requires that you remove the media's height and width attributes from the HTML
   http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fluid-images/
img, object, embed, video {
          max-width: 100%;
/* IE 6 does not support max-width so default to width 100% */
.ie6 img {
          width:100%;
/* Mobile Layout: 480px and below.(smartphone portrait) */
.gridContainer {
          width: 95.4184%;
          padding-left: 0.5907%;
          padding-right: 0.5907%;
#header {
          clear: both;
          float: left;
          display: block;
          margin-left: 0%;
          width: 72%;
          max-height: 0%;
          display: -moz-box; /* Firefox */
          display: -webkit-box; /* Safari and Chrome */
          display: box;
          border: none;
          top: auto;
          padding-top: 0.25em;
#menuHorizontal {
          clear: both;
          float: left;
          width: 118%;
          height:100%;
          margin-left: auto;
          position:relative;
          top:-1em;
          display: block;
#slides {
          clear: both;
          float: left;
          margin-left: 0.1em;
          width: 119%;
          position: relative;
          top: -1em;
          display: block;
                    /*Slides container: Important: Use position:relative; with top:-1em; together to position div.
                              Set the width of your slides container
                              Set to    display: none     to prevent content flash*/
.slides_container {
          clear: both;
          width: 100%;
          display: block;
                    /*Each slide: Important:
                              Set the width of your slides
                              If height not specified height will be set by the slide content
                              Set to     display: block     for original setting
                              slide_container is container size
                              slides_container div set the size of the image inside--adjust to fit image in it so it is not cropped*/
.slides_container div {
          clear: both;
          width: 69%;
          display: block;
          /* Mobile Layout: 480px. (smartphone landscape)
                              Inherits styles from Mobile Layout 480px.
                              Set to clear:none; to allow div to shift up
                              Or set to clear:both; to take a whole row of the screen*/
@media only screen and (max-device-width: 480px) and (orientation : landscape) {
.gridContainer {
          width: 95.4184%;
          padding-left: 0.7907%;
          padding-right: 0.7907%;
#header {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          display: block;
          margin-left: auto;
          width:100%;
          display: -moz-box; /* Firefox */
          display: -webkit-box; /* Safari and Chrome */
          display: box;
          border: none;
#menuHorizontal {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          width: 110%;
          margin-left:auto;
          display: block;
#slides {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          margin-left: 0%;
          width: 68%;
          display: block;
                    /*Slides container: Important:
                              Set the width of your slides container
                              Set to    display: none     to prevent content flash*/
.slides_container {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          width: 100%;
          display: block;
                    /*Each slide: Important:
                              Set the width of your slides
                              If height not specified height will be set by the slide content
                              Set to     display: block     for original setting*/
.slides_container div {
          clear:both;
          width:69%;
          display: block;
                    /* Tablet Layout: 481px to 768px. Inherits styles from: Mobile Layout.
                              Set to clear:none; to allow div to shift up
                              Or set to clear:both; to take a whole row of the screen*/
@media only screen and (min-width: 481px) {
.gridContainer {
          width: 95.9456%;
          padding-left: 0.5271%;
          padding-right: 0.5271%;
#header {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          display: block;
          margin-left: auto;
          width: 100%;
          display: -moz-box; /* Firefox */
          display: -webkit-box; /* Safari and Chrome */
          display: box;
          border: none;
#menuHorizontal {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          margin-left:auto;
          display: block;
#slides {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          margin-left: 0%;
          width: 70%;
          display: block;
                    /*Slides container: Important:
                              Set the width of your slides container
                              Set to    display: none     to prevent content flash*/
.slides_container {
          clear:both;
          float: left;
          width: 100%;
          display: block;
                    /*Each slide: Important:
                              Set the width of your slides
                              If height not specified height will be set by the slide content
                              Set to     display: block     for original setting*/
.slides_container div {
          width: 100%;
          display: block;

I found the problem. There is a bug in Safari for iPhone 4. Use code to fix found at http://stackoverflow.com/a/6379407

Can I control column color in fluid grid layout?

The columns in fluid grid layout are gray in CC; they used to be pink. I highly prefer pink, as I almost never design with that color, and I frequently design with gray.
Is there a way to set a preference for grid column color in CC?
Thanks.

NO NO NO NO NO!
Never make your navigation editable or you will shoot
yourself in the foot
when it comes time to change a link there and you would have
to touch every
page. <sheesh>
Give each of those links a unique ID, e.g.,
<a href="page1.html" id="link1">Page 1</a> |
<a href="page2.html"
id="link2">Page 2</a>....
Then in the head of each child page, add this to the Editable
Region called
"head" -
<style type="text/css">
a#link2 { color:whatever; otherstuff:whatever; }
</style>
Now you would just edit the embedded stylesheet to change
a#link2 to a#link3
or whichever button you wanted to affect on that page.
Alternatively, you can go here -
http://www.divahtml.com and get
their
DivaGPS extension.
DO NOT MAKE YOUR NAVIGATION EDITABLE.
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> make those links editable regions on the template, and
apply the
> neccessary styles in the individual html pages

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