Upgrade of Lightroom 4 with newest Camera Raws possible?

I'm still on Windows XP. My question: Can I buy Lightroom 4 and update Camera Raw files subsequently? Or is the only chance to use newest camera raws by using Lightroom 5? I want to get access to Olympus EM-5 Raw files (in addition to EOS 5D MII) and want to avoid for now changing the windows system.
Any advice very much appreciated!

Lightroom 4 is no longer sold. It would depend first on your being able to find a copy for sale. That said, you would only be able to upgrade your camera compatibility to LR 4.4.1. Any cameras added after 4.4.1 was released would be unavailable to you.
At this point the only alternative that allows you to remain on XP and continue to get the newest cameras is to download and implement in your workflow the free Adobe DNG Converter. It is XP compatible (at least for now) and allows access to the latest cameras, and its DNG files are backwards compatible to all versions of Lightroom.

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Does PSE 10 support and is it compatible with Adobe Camera Raw Process 2012?

I recently upgraded to Photoshop CS6 but am still using Photoshop Elements 8 Organizer to manage my collection. It appears that the new Process 2012 that is available with the Camera Raw processor is not supported by PSE 8 and in fact PSE 8 changes (as best it can) the adjustments back to Process 2010 if I add a caption to a photo in the Organizer. This also happens if I write properties and tags to to the image file. Does PSE 10 support Process 2012?

Bill Junk -- your entire set of comments seems to be way off topic, but I'll address them anyway. If you want to continue this discussion about LR, you should really start a new thread (and probably in the LR forum)
Has Lightroom 4 made any fundamental changes in the way they let you organize, tag, and manage files in your collection?
There are minor changes to the Library Module in LR4, but nothing major.
My complaint about LR 3 is that it seems to flatten my image tagging structure when I import catalog data from PSE.
This would happen because you are doing it wrong. If you upgrade the PSE catalog to a LR catalog, your tag structure/hierarchy remains intact.
I have a very nice and organized file structure for maintaining my collection and don't like relying on a database to keep track of everything.
But the tags in PSE are in a database. Your folder hierarchy is really a database in your operating system.
If the Lightroom DB every goes belly up I suspect that years of adding entries would be lost.
There are so many misconceptions about LR. I have no idea how this gets started, but this isn't true. There are simple ways to prevent this from happening.
Suppose your Windows (or Mac) folders (which are a really a database in your operating system) get corrupted. Suppose your hard disk fails. Then what would you do?
The way I'm currently organized and having key information stored in the image files I can usually find what I want quickly using something as simple as Windows Explorer.
Lightroom has this capability too.

Do I need to upgrade both LR 5.7 and Camera Raw 8.7 to import files from Canon 7dMark2? or is LR 5.7 enough or is camera raw 8.7 enough

Do I need to upgrade both LR 5.7 and Camera Raw 8.7 to import files from Canon 7dMark2? or is LR 5.7 enough or is camera raw 8.7 enough

Lightroom is a complete stand alone program and does not require you to have any other Adobe product on your computer.
Adobe Camera Raw is a plugin for Photoshop CS and is not require by Lightroom nor is it used by Lightroom.
However if you are using both Lightroom 5 and Photoshop CS6 /Photoshop CC and wish them to 100% compatible then you will need to update the ACR Plugin in Photoshop.
Lightroom 5.7 will work fine with your Canon 7dMk2. (Its internal processing engine is the equivalent of ACR 8.7)
To wit LR 5.7 is an alternative to ACR 8.7 Plugin in Photoshop, you do not necessarily need both.

Lightroom 3.2 and Camera Raw 6.2 Now Available

Final releases of Lightroom 3.2, DNG Converter 6.2 and Camera Raw 6.2 are now available. Additional details here: http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-camera-raw-6-2-now-avail able.html
Regards,
Tom Hogarty
Lightroom, Camera Raw, DNG Product Manager

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You have a wild hair about Bridge, Noel?
Not at all. I like good tools, and from everything I read Bridge is marvelous. I don't have anything against Bridge, I just don't need it.
As a computer engineer, I use my computer for WAY more than just Photoshop. As such, I do everything I can to have the operating system (via Windows Explorer) integrate things for me.
For example, via right-click or double-click or drag and drop onto icons:
I access my configuration management system from Explorer (Tortoise SubVersion).
I do searches (grepWin) from Explorer.
I compare things (Beyond Compare) from Explorer.
I start Photoshop and other image tools on raw and processed image files I manage with Explorer.
I start my development tools (Visual Studio and a host of utilities) from Explorer (e.g., double click .sln files).
I access my web sites with Explorer (via WebDrive).
I get file paths from Explorer (right click, Send to Clipboard as Name).
I access office management apps from Explorer (e.g., double click .doc or .xls files).
This is an abbreviated list. Explorer can be a VERY powerful integrator, and is at the center of my computing world at a higher level. So now you can start to imagine why I prefer Explorer for image work.
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Lightroom 3.2 and Camera Raw 6.2 Release Candidate on Available on Adobe Labs

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/08/lightroom-3-2-and-camera-raw-6-2-available -on-adobe-labs.html
with additional lens profiles available.

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You have a wild hair about Bridge, Noel?
Not at all. I like good tools, and from everything I read Bridge is marvelous. I don't have anything against Bridge, I just don't need it.
As a computer engineer, I use my computer for WAY more than just Photoshop. As such, I do everything I can to have the operating system (via Windows Explorer) integrate things for me.
For example, via right-click or double-click or drag and drop onto icons:
I access my configuration management system from Explorer (Tortoise SubVersion).
I do searches (grepWin) from Explorer.
I compare things (Beyond Compare) from Explorer.
I start Photoshop and other image tools on raw and processed image files I manage with Explorer.
I start my development tools (Visual Studio and a host of utilities) from Explorer (e.g., double click .sln files).
I access my web sites with Explorer (via WebDrive).
I get file paths from Explorer (right click, Send to Clipboard as Name).
I access office management apps from Explorer (e.g., double click .doc or .xls files).
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-Noel

Lightroom 3.2 and Camera Raw 6.2 final releases are available

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Excellent! Now if there were only a way to use my S95 in raw... I guess I'll have to wait another few months

Lightroom 2.7 and Camera Raw 5.7 Release Candidates now Available

http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/04/camera_raw_57_and_lightroom_27.html
Regards,
Tom Hogarty
Adobe Systems

Tom Hogarty wrote:
Here is a draft of my final release notes for working with Lightroom 3 and Camera Raw 5.7:
Viewing Lightroom 3 settings in Camera Raw 5.7
Before working in conjunction with Lightroom 3 and Camera Raw please set the Camera Raw preference to: Save image settings in: Sidecar ".xmp" files. By default Camera Raw will display the image adjustments exactly as performed in Lightroom’s develop module. However, at this time Camera Raw 5.7 is unable to support further adjustments to the following settings or tools:
Highlight Priority and Color Priority post-crop vignette
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Regards,
Tom Hogarty
Adobe Systems
That seems to clarify the interoperability of ACR 5.7 and LR 3. Thank you for that, Mr. Hogarty.
Now, for the benefit of those of use who are not and/or will not be using Lightroom 3 for whatever reason, perhaps Mr. Chan or you can address the question of whether ACR 5.7 RC has a different or improved Noise Reduction functionality over that of ACR 5.6, and/or whether this will be the case for the final, GM release of ACR 5.7. Let's leave any and all versions of LR out of the equation for a second, please.
I think I see improved Noise Reduction in ACR 5.7 RC, but I wonder if this is real or whether I've just improved my skills in handling the noise reduction sliders since earlier versions.
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I have Lightroom 3.6 and Camera Raw 6.6 but I can't open my CR2 files from my Canon eos 6D

Hi,
I have Lightroom 3.6 and Camera Raw 6.6 but I can't open my CR2 files from my Canon eos 6D
Lightroom doesn't show a thumbnail image and when trying to import it says the camera format isn't supported. But normaly Camera raw 6.6 should cover the Canon eos 6D
All help is welcome,
Thanks

No, the older versions are not free. If you upgrade you will have to get Lr5 unless you can still find Lr4 for sale somewhere as it has been discontinued by Adobe. You can also use the FREE DNG converter to convert the 6d files for use in Lr3.6.

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Lightroom 2.3, http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Lightroom_2.3
Camera Raw 5.3, http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Camera_Raw_5.3
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Hi All:
based on the good work of Dorin above (post #19), he did a timeline of various releases of Lightroom from Adobe and it shows that from "version x RC" to "final release version" was around 1 month.
as it is already exactly one month now, it must not be too much longer till they will release the LR2.3 Final Version.
As for what Robert said in post #23, well, there's never any "guarantee" on a problem-free piece of software, or, for that matter, anything one purchases or anything in life, actually!! Yet, one can make educated extrapolations, right? From the range of comments thus far on LR2.3RC, it appears that it is the best version yet of LR2.x. This leads to the conclusion that it is probably a "good bet" that this version will likely lead to the least amount of issues, right? Maybe not "zero issues", but most likely, the least amount of issues from the various LR2.x versions available.
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How to open a jpg file with Adobe Camera Raw

I know it is possible to open a jpg file with Adobe Camera Raw using Bridge but is it possible to do this using PSE7? Thanks.

Yes. In the editor, File>Open As, and choose camera raw as the format. John Ellis also has a script for doing this directly from the organizer, but I don't have the link right at the moment. Hopefully he'll be along with it sooner or later.

I work with a Mac & I had to restore my computer for my time machine back-up. When I attempt to open/edit a photo with either camera raw or photoshop I get the following error message: Error 150:30 , it also sys that licensing for the product has stopped

I work with a Mac & I had to restore my computer for my time machine back-up. When I attempt to open/edit a photo with either camera raw or photoshop I get the following error message: Error 150:30 , it also sys that licensing for the product has stopped working?

Unfortunately when Adobe products are restored from backup, especial CS4 and especially Mac, it breaks licensing.
There is a python script included in the license recovery kit that should work if you are familiar with Terminal.
If not, you must reinstall your CS4 suite. You don't need to delete your preferences, so it should be the same as before.
Error "Licensing has stopped working" | Mac OS
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Is editing in Photoshop with Adobe camera RAW the same as editing in Lightroom?

Hi,
I have been learning to use LIghtroom, and I am now reasonably comfortable with it. I shoot in RAW, and do my import, organizing and editing in Lightroom. My next goal is to start learning to use Photoshop (which looks like a much bigger leap than just Lightroom !).
My question is this: from all my online reading and watching videos, it seems that some people edit mainly in Lightroom and work on photos in Photoshop when needed, whereas some people like to work mainly in Photoshop. If the original RAW photo is imported into Photoshop, I believe it first opens in Camera RAW, and the editing tools there seem almost identical to Lightroom. Is that the case? In other words, is editing in Camera RAW (within Photoshop) essentially the same as editing the RAW photo in Lightroom? Any advantages to doing it in Camera RAW?
thanks,
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In other words, is editing in Camera RAW (within Photoshop) essentially the same as editing the RAW photo in Lightroom?
Quote from Photoshop Help | Camera Raw
Adobe Photoshop Lightroom® software is built upon the same powerful raw processing technology that is available in the Camera Raw plug-in.

FAQ: Will Lightroom work with my camera, or Why won't my raw files open?

What is a raw file?
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How does Lightroom work with raw camera files?
Lightroom interprets the raw data and makes image information out of it. But every camera has a unique sensor and thus has a unique form of raw file. Even though camera manufactures may use the same file extension each time (e.g. Nikon raw files are always .NEF), each camera model has a different way of storing information. Because of this, we must continually update Lightroom for new cameras. As we add new cameras to the list (over 300 now) we update our published list of supported cameras.
Will the raw files from my camera work with Lightroom?
To determine whether your camera is supported by Lightroom, check this list:
Supported cameras
Go to Help > Updates to install the latest release. You can also manually download and install Lightroom updates:
Macintosh
Windows
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Purchase the latest version of Lightroom that supports your camera.
Use the latest version of the free DNG Converter (for Macintosh or Windows)
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For more assistance on DNG:
Adobe TV - The Advantages of the DNG File Format
Adobe TV - On Using DNG in Lightroom
Adobe TV - DNG Enhancements in Lightroom 4
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Adobe TV - Import photos from a tethered camera
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Use the Adobe Lens Profile Creator (Download: Mac, Win) to make your own profile for your camera and lens.
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Adobe TV - Lens Correction & Perspective Correction
Adobe TV - Create Stunning Images
Adobe TV - Correcting Perspective
Adobe TV - Apply Lens Corrections
Julieanne Kost's Blog - Lens Correction Profiles
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Why doesn’t my version of Photoshop or Lightroom support my camera?
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Lightroom Jourrnal (developers blog) about Camera Raw releases
Julieanne Kost's Camera Raw video tutorials
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When I try to open the RAW file (CR2) from the Photoshop application or from the Bridge (even while holding down the shift key) I get a message saying it's not the right kind of file. When I try to convert using the converter, it won't recognize the files.

Which operating system are you using?
Which camera are the camera raw files from?
Did you convert the files to dng using lightroom or the standalone dng converter?
If using the standalone dng converter, which version?
In the dng converter did you try setting the Compatibility for Camera Raw 2.4 and later
(Preferences>Compatibility)
You should also be able to send the files from lightroom to cs2 without converting to dng, either by using Photo>Edit In>Photoshop or setting cs2 as an external editor in the lightroom preferences

Lightroom update 2.6/ Camera Raw 5.6 + CS3?

OK then, Lightroom has a new update- v2.6
So does Camera Raw - 5.6
I do 99% of my raw file processing in LR , but occasionally need to do it in CS3.
According to the notes if I upgrade LR to v2.6, I need to update Camera Raw to v5.6
I still use Photoshop CS3. Until more money comes in I wasn't planning on upgrading to CS4
This being the case, do I NOT want to update my Lightroom to v5.6??? Will that screw things up if I am still using Photoshop CS3?
Can you have both Camera Raw 5.5 and 5.6 available so CS3 can use CR 5.5 and Lightroom use CR 5.6???
Appreciate the input.

Do I understand this correctly ... that if I am using LR 2.6 and CS3, that when I go to Edit in CS3 from LR and the warning message about the Camera Raw versions being incompatible comes up, all I need to do is click on the tab for "Render in Lightroom" and it will open in CS3 with the Lightroom adjustments I made? I have been struggling with this because I have been clicking on the tab that says "Open Anyway" and there are no adjustments when I get into CS3. It has been very frustrating.
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