Using exsitingOracle infra to secure web services

Our system currently uses an Oracle RDBMS for security - users and roles are defined
within the database. We are now adding web services and EJBs using WLS 8.1. I'd
like to leverage the existing security database by either having WLS use it directly
or somehow intialize the necessary WLS security structures from the Oracle database.
The idea is to not change the way security is handled now (and thereby not perturb
legacy apps) but also not add additional administrative tasks such as defining
users and roles to WLS. I've read almost all the security related documentation
and theres so much there that one or both approaches seem feasible but I'm not
sure. Is either or both approaches feasible and can someone layout the high-level
steps needed?
Thanks in advance,
Jack

See:
http://newsgroups.bea.com/cgi-bin/dnewsweb?cmd=article&group=weblogic.developer.interest.security&item=9930&utag=
Jack Ottofaro wrote:
>
Our system currently uses an Oracle RDBMS for security - users and roles are defined
within the database. We are now adding web services and EJBs using WLS 8.1. I'd
like to leverage the existing security database by either having WLS use it directly
or somehow intialize the necessary WLS security structures from the Oracle database.
The idea is to not change the way security is handled now (and thereby not perturb
legacy apps) but also not add additional administrative tasks such as defining
users and roles to WLS. I've read almost all the security related documentation
and theres so much there that one or both approaches seem feasible but I'm not
sure. Is either or both approaches feasible and can someone layout the high-level
steps needed?
Thanks in advance,
Jack

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