Using Workspaces as publication-management

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We are considering using the Workspaces and the features available as a kind of publication-management like a VERY scaleddown WoodWing or alike. In the middle of these considerations, some questions pop up:
- would it be possible to dump images ONLINE and link to these from InDesign?
- would it, in time, be possible to get more space than the 5GB?
- would it, in time, be possible to get the paid plans in Europe?
- could you, in theory, use the folders with documents and word-counter to make a visual page overview in relations to a publication?
The idea is, from the above, to have an online Workspace for editors, management and art directors where articles can be posted, edited and where the art director can get hold of the content for the publications. When the editor updates, the AD could update the links in InDesign, and everything would be updated.
Possible?
Cheers
Bo Dudek
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Denmark

Hi Bo,
Thank you for your post - it sounds like you're planning an interesting workflow with Acrobat.com. Let me answer your questions as best I can:
1. Linking to images online is not yet possible for InDesign (I don't believe it is, anyway). If you're storing all of your images online with Acrobat.com, they'll be downloadable by multiple parties - that is, whoever on your team needs the image can easily download it from the workspace. I know that it's not exactly what you need, but unfortunately it's the best we can offer at the moment. If it's any consolation, the new InDesign (CS5) will allow for text placed from Buzzword! We're very excited about that feature, and all the other collaborative features available in the new Creative Suite. More information here: http://www.adobe.com/products/indesign/whatsnew/
2. For extra storage, you'd want a subscription to Premium services: the Basic plan gets you 10GB, and the Plus plan allows you 100GB. This brings us to the next point...
3. ...Subscriptions outside of North America. We realize that it is very inconvenient for those who don't have access to a North American credit card; unfortunately, there are certain legal and business issues that prevent us from making the Premium services available globally. The team is working hard to resolve these issues, and we will make no secret of it when they become available.
4. I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "visual page overview"; would you mind clarifying your request?
Another thing to think about is making the final product available through Acrobat.com (if that makes sense for your group). Once you're finished with the editing process, make the resulting document open access ("publish" it) and then provide a link to that document; people will be able to view it and, if they like, download it to their personal computers.
It sounds like there is an interesting conversation to be had here; if you'd like to keep the discussion going, please feel free to message me directly. We'd love to hear about how you'd like to use the services for your ideal publishing workflow!
Kind regards,
Rebecca Staley
Acrobat.com Community Manager

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