WebServices or JMS

Hi !
Need to know if JMS can be used instead of webservices.
My requirement is that i have 2 applications which have to contact each other over internet. I also don't need synchronous communication. One application is in java/jsp and other is in ASP/com.
Earlier i was planning to use webservices (xml/http) for communication among them.
Can i use JMS instead of Web Services ? Also, i have to use weblogic application server, so is MOM/JMS service provided in weblogic sufficient enough for full fledge use and can be used for communication between java and no-java clients over internet or do i need to use some other MOM service.
If anyone can provide me info on
1. If JMS can be an alternative to web service
2. How exactly JMS works over ineternet
3. If anyone has worked on weblogic JMS and prove me inputs on it

1. If JMS can be an alternative to web serviceIf you mean for asynchronous processing, certainly.
2. How exactly JMS works over ineternetIt won't - you have firewalls in the way (if your admins are smart).
3. If anyone has worked on weblogic JMS and prove me
inputs on itWorks great - INSIDE THE FIREWALL.

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From what I saw in the Sun technical articles, they offer next solution:
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What I'm looking for is:
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Hi,
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3) Any sample example of similiar implementation.
4) On what basis should I choose synchronous or Asynchronous? Requirment is real time, so it should be synchronous I presume.
Any help on these four points appreciated. Just starting and new to SOA suite, wanted some design inputs.
Regards
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933272 wrote:
I´m new to JMS and i still don´t understand how can i use a JMS queue to access APIs or webservice.
Given an example where i have an API or WebService exposed to enter customer orders in some system, how can i integrate my JMS queue with it?
* Do i have to create message consumers on the remote server? If so, how do i integrate the messages in the consumer queue with my API or WebService?
* Can the queue on my server point directly to the API or WebService?
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ClassCastException when calling a JMS implemented web service

Hi,
I published a Message Driven Bean EJB to WebService using WebLogic 8.1 and servicegen.
When I try to call it using the automatic generated Web interface, I receive the
following ClassCastException.
Do you see what is going wrong?
Is it a bug?
Thanks for your help
Charles
ClassCastException :
javax.xml.rpc.soap.SOAPFaultException: Exception during processing: java.lang.ClassCastException
(see Fault Detail for stacktrace) at weblogic.webservice.core.ClientDispatcher.receive(ClientDispatcher.java:270)
at weblogic.webservice.core.ClientDispatcher.dispatch(ClientDispatcher.java:131)
at weblogic.webservice.core.DefaultOperation.invoke(DefaultOperation.java:439)
at weblogic.webservice.core.DefaultOperation.invoke(DefaultOperation.java:405)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.ServletBase.invokeMultiOutput(ServletBase.java:322)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.ServletBase.invokeOperation(ServletBase.java:296)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.WebServiceServlet.invokeOperation(WebServiceServlet.java:312)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.ServletBase.handleGet(ServletBase.java:253)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.ServletBase.doGet(ServletBase.java:138)
at weblogic.webservice.server.servlet.WebServiceServlet.doGet(WebServiceServlet.java:232)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:740) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl$ServletInvocationAction.run(ServletStubImpl.java:1053)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:387)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java:305)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ServletInvocationAction.run(WebAppServletContext.java:6291)
at weblogic.security.acl.internal.AuthenticatedSubject.doAs(AuthenticatedSubject.java:317)
at weblogic.security.service.SecurityManager.runAs(SecurityManager.java:97) at
weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.invokeServlet(WebAppServletContext.java:3575)
at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletRequestImpl.execute(ServletRequestImpl.java:2573)
at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:178) at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:151)
I use this and command :
<servicegen
destEar="${WAS_APPLICATIONS}/${version}${ear_ws_file}"
contextURI="${version}WebServices" >
<service
JMSDestination="mq_receive"
JMSAction="send"
JMSDestinationType="queue"
JMSConnectionFactory="mq_QCF"
JMSOperationName="${JMSOperationName}"
JMSMessageType="${JMSMessageType}"
generateTypes="True"
targetNamespace="http://www.francetelecom.com/cristal/${version}Webservices"
serviceName="${version}"
serviceURI="/${version}"
expandMethods="True">
</service>
<classpath>
<pathelement location="${build}" />
</classpath>
<classpath refid="classpath" />
</servicegen>
My MDB is
public void ejbCreate () throws CreateException {
     LoggerConfigurator.configure();
log.debug("called");
public void onMessage(Message msg)
log.debug("called");
          try
               ObjectMessage objMessage = (ObjectMessage)msg;
               String text = (String)objMessage.getObject();
               home = lookupHome();
               Toupper client = (Toupper)
                    PortableRemoteObject.narrow(home.create(), Toupper.class);
               text=client.toupper(text);
               log.error("Toupper="+text);
               startJMS();
               sendJMS(text);
               client.remove();
          } catch (Exception e)
               e.printStackTrace();

"mq_receive" is define as a Local JNDI Name of a Foreign JMSDestination.
And it works when I use it with only the MDB (without WebService)
Good try,
Thanks
Charles
"Neal Yin" <[email protected]> wrote:
My best guess is that JNDI name "mq_receive" is not bound as JMS queue.
Thanks
-Neal
"Charles Desmoulins" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
news:[email protected]...
Ok Neal,
This is the result :

URL :
http://localhost:7001/messageToupperWebServices/messageToupper
Headers :
SOAPAction: [""]
Content-Type: [text/xml]
<env:Envelope xmlns:env="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoaporg/soap/encoding/"
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"><env:Header/><env:Body
env:encodingStyle="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"><m:toupper
xmlns:m="http://www.francetelecom.com/cristal/messageToupperWebservices"><pa
ram
xsi:type="xsd:string">sAmple string totransform</param></m:toupper></env:Body></env:Envelope>


URL :
http://localhost:7001/messageToupperWebServices/messageToupper
Headers :
Date=Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:29:33 GMT
Server=WebLogic WebLogic Server 8.1 Thu Mar 20 23:06:05 PST 2003246620
Content-Length=2522
Content-Type=text/xml
Envelope :
<env:Envelope xmlns:env="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xmlns:soapenc="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/encoding/"
xmlns:xsd="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema"><env:Header/><env:Body><env:Fau
lt><faultcode>env:Server</faultcode><faultstring>Exception
during processing: java.lang.ClassCastException (see Fault Detail forstacktrace)</faultstring><detail><bea_fault:stacktrace
>
xmlns:bea_fault="http://www.bea.com/servers/wls70/webservice/fault/1.0.0"/>j
ava.lang.ClassCastException
atweblogic.webservice.component.jms.JMSSendInvocationHandler.invoke(JMSSendInv
ocationHandler.java:131)
atweblogic.webservice.core.handler.InvokeHandler.handleRequest(InvokeHandler.j
ava:81)
atweblogic.webservice.core.HandlerChainImpl.handleRequest(HandlerChainImpl.jav
a:125)
atweblogic.webservice.core.DefaultOperation.process(DefaultOperation.java:513)
atweblogic.webservice.server.Dispatcher.process(Dispatcher.java:150)
atweblogic.webservice.server.Dispatcher.doDispatch(Dispatcher.java:125)
atweblogic.webservice.server.Dispatcher.dispatch(Dispatcher.java:74)
atweblogic.webservice.server.WebServiceManager.dispatch(WebServiceManager.java
:98)
atweblogic.webservice.server.servlet.WebServiceServlet.serverSideInvoke(WebSer
viceServlet.java:274)
atweblogic.webservice.server.servlet.ServletBase.doPost(ServletBase.java:393)
atweblogic.webservice.server.servlet.WebServiceServlet.doPost(WebServiceServle
t.java:244)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:760)
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl$ServletInvocationAction.run(Servle
tStubImpl.java:1053)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java
:387)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.invokeServlet(ServletStubImpl.java
:305)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ServletInvocationAction.run(W
ebAppServletContext.java:6291)
atweblogic.security.acl.internal.AuthenticatedSubject.doAs(AuthenticatedSubjec
t.java:317)
atweblogic.security.service.SecurityManager.runAs(SecurityManager.java:97)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.invokeServlet(WebAppServletCo
ntext.java:3575)
atweblogic.servlet.internal.ServletRequestImpl.execute(ServletRequestImpl.java
:2573)
at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:178)
at weblogic.kernel.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:151)
</detail></env:Fault></env:Body></env:Envelope>

An exception Exception during processing: java.lang.ClassCastException(see Fault
Detail for stacktrace)
javax.xml.rpc.soap.SOAPFaultException: Exception during processing:java.lang.ClassCastException
(see Fault Detail for stacktrace)
atweblogic.webservice.core.ClientDispatcher.receive(ClientDispatcher.java:270)
atweblogic.webservice.core.ClientDispatcher.dispatch(ClientDispatcher.java:131
atweblogic.webservice.core.DefaultOperation.invoke(DefaultOperation.java:439)
atweblogic.webservice.core.DefaultOperation.invoke(DefaultOperation.java:425)
at weblogic.webservice.core.rpc.CallImpl.invoke(CallImpl.java:536)
at weblogic.webservice.core.rpc.CallImpl.invoke(CallImpl.java:389)
at ft.services.messageToupper.WSClient.main(WSClient.java:60)

Methods to write JMS program other than MDB

HI guys,
Could you please help me out.
I need to call a webservice using JMS.I know how to write a JMS message consumer or producer using MESSAGE DRIVEN BEAN,but i would like to know is there any other technologies to write JMS message consumer or producer.
Thanks

You might need to reword that!
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Hi Guys
I am a BPEL guy and just started working on BPM. Being a newbie in BPM field i have few queries which should be able to make me understand the diff between BPEL and BPEM.
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user12128585 wrote:
Hi Guys
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Hi,
I have a composite which looks like below.
JMS Adapter -------> Mediator -------> WebService
The JMS adapter will get a payload from a queue and push the same to the given webservice through mediator.
My Problem here starts when the given webservice is not available. The composite gets strucked when the endpoint is not available throwing me the below fault
Non Recoverable System Fault :
*ORAMED-03302:[Exception in oneway execution]Unexpected exception in oneway operation "CreateExceptionLog" on reference "ExceptionLogger1".Possible Fix:Check whether the reference service is properly configured and running or look at exception for analysing the reason or contact oracle support. Cause:Unable to access the following endpoint(s): http://10.103.96.161:8088/mockExceptionEventSOAP11Binding*
I thought of implementing retry logic through Fault Policies. But it is not working. I need to configure in such a way that the composite should retry to push the payload till the webservice comes ON(if fails human intervention should be made).
How can i achieve this ?? Isnt possible to handle exception in mediator level??
With smile,
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SOAP over Messaging

I was curious to know the status of SOAP over messaging protocols. Is this standardized
yet? If not is the support for WebServices over JMS in WebLogic a proprietary
implementation?

Hello,
In pointing to this recent spec [1] the three authors have provided
their contact information; they would be a good source of information in
this area.
Regards,
Bruce
[1]
http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/WS-MessageData_Intro.jsp
Mohammad Naderi wrote:
>
I was curious to know the status of SOAP over messaging protocols. Is this standardized
yet? If not is the support for WebServices over JMS in WebLogic a proprietary
implementation?

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