What about binary Device Drivers?

I know that the current view of the Linux devs is that you can't improve the kernel AND provide a stable binary interface for device drivers. They have a valid point, but I think that there is a way to have the best of both worlds. The folks coding NDISwrapper have done some amazing work getting M$ drivers to work in linux through encapsulation. The Uniform Driver Interface (project-udi) has some very interesting ideas on portable device drivers, but their scope is limited to providing an API only, not an ABI.
If there were a way to merge the 3 philosophies together by creating a kernel module that provided a stable API AND ABI to LINUX-specific binary drivers, the world of hardware could be opened up to Linux. Hardware manufacturers like Nvidia, ATI, and Thompson (Who are already somewhat Linux friendly) would be able to create binary drivers that actually WORK with Linux. Hardcore coders would still be able to reverse engineer the device to build the kind of great Linux drivers we have today and still put preasure on the big guys to open their standards up to the world. However, the Linux community as a whole would benifit from the compromise.
I feel confident that I will get flamed here, but a project like this has real potential.
PS: Does anyone know of any projects out there already with these goals in mind?

I think some of you are missing the point. Of course we all use Linux - and we think it's great - and that open source in general is great.
Duke said:
When dealing with binary device drivers, they are not part of the kernel and need to be installed seperately, and often are not part of distributions due to legality of redistributing them, therefore they must be fetched and installed afterwards, often a pain.
You are completely correct on this point. However, providing a stable platform for binary drivers would allow vendors to distribute their Linux drivers in their retail packaging. I tend to keep all my driver disks for M$ use. If a vendor had Linux drivers on those cds as well, I personally wouldn't be maintaining anything extra. Plus, you could always archive the retail drivers on your internal FTP server or USB HD.
Duke said:
If binary drivers are released it may also prevent open source drivers to be developed since, well, there are already working drivers, and even if they're binary many people consider them "good enough". [...] Why develop open source drivers if there are binary drivers the work "ok"?
There are at least 4 reasons to keep developing OSS drivers. Firstly, there would be a bit of latency involved with adding an interface to the kernel - so a built-in module would always be preferable. Second, the kernel developers would not be content to let manufacturers drive their creative processes - and so would make their own way through. Thirdly, Linus Torvalds started Linux as a hobby (although it has evolved since then) to learn more about OS programming. A lot of people use the kernel as a learning ground - and could continue doing so for the shear fun of it! and Fouthly:
Duke said:
Open source drivers are GOOD, since they can be ported to different operating systems and knowledge can be SHARED
i3839 said:
Another point is that the Linux kernel has no stable ABI, and it's progressing rather fast. That means that if the kernel changes often the binary drivers must be changed too, but that will always lag behind and may cause instability until it's fixed.
That is exactly why, if binary drivers are to be used, an interface should be created to facilitate this usage.
i3839 said:
Only reason nvidia and co get away with their closed driver is because it is a Windows one with a GPL'ed wrapper around it to make it work in Linux, and thus arguably not derived from the Linux kernel
That's not true. the Official Nvidia drivers have to be compiled against your running kernel. You need the kernel source if Nvidia has not already built a binary for that kernel version.
i3839 said:
The NDIS wrappers only work because they work with Windows drivers. They can't work with closed source Linux drivers thanks to the GPL.
How do you figure? Whether it's closed source windows code or Linux code, it doesn't modify the kernel's code one bit. Plus the wrapper is OSS, it just provides an interface to the binary driver. One major difference in what I propose is that the Linux drivers would be linux binaries, not Windows binaries, and therefore allow for one less layer of abstraction..

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