Wheel keeps turning - trying to go from tiger to leopard
I put the 10.5 install disk in the drive, hit the restart button, and it has not come back yet. It has been an hour turning its wheel - I don't remember hearing a start-up sound - and I'm afraid to turn it off in fear of losing everything. I have everything backed up, so that's no problem. But what should I do now? Can I safely turn the power off?
Mac is a G4 with the bubble foot.
In a word, yes.
When you restart try holding down the C key on your keyboard to boot from your 10.5 install disk.
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OK, I give up. The following falls under the category “It Doesn’t Have To Be This Hard.”
I purchased a new iMac and went with the 24 inch Intel 3.06 GHz Core 2 Duo, 10.5.5. Sweet.
With my previous iMac (G5 Rev A., 10.3.9), I had Tiger 10.4.11 installed on an external HD and used it for my iTunes collection. All was well.
Now, with Leopard on the new iMac, I’m stumped as to how I can import the playlists from Tiger’s iTunes. I’ve imported the music and podcasts, etc. from Tiger but the playlists are empty. I have them listed but all except one have no music in them.
So, my questions (after performing a thorough review of the forums and entering every search term I could think of related to this issue) are these:
1. How do I import playlists from Tiger to Leopard so that I get music and playlists?
2. Where are the playlists stored? I cannot find them using a Spotlight search ( using Leopard), nor are they listed in the iTunes music files. So, where does Tiger and/or Leopard keep them?
3. At least one playlist made it from Tiger to Leopard. Why did the other playlists arrive but w/o music in them?
4. Is the problem I have described a common one? If so, why is there no easy fix for it. Or perhaps there is an easy fix but I’m too blind to see it.
Anyone with answers is encouraged to reply. I’ll sign off as “flyboy01” but in reality I’m “Stumped!”
Thanks in advance,
flyboy01Just so you know, the difference in the version of the operating system has no bearing here as you would have experienced the same issue going from account to account on the same computer because you performed an incomplete iTunes transfer. As you inquired about where playlists are located, I will give you a complete break down of iTunes database structure as well as the proper technique for transferring your library.
_*INSIDE iTUNES*_
*iTunes Components: The Library and the Database Table*
The term library gets thrown around quite a bit when people discuss iTunes, but what you see in iTunes denoted as your libraries (e.g., music, podcasts, TV shows, etc.) is actually just a reference to your actual media library. iTunes is essentially a database package, just like your local public library’s computer-based card catalog system; the difference is that the content is electronic and owned by the user so you can also directly access the content through iTunes instead of having to go and (physically) retrieve it. Your actual library is the collection of media files you have stored on your computer. If you think of it in terms of the real world, your media files are the virtual equivalent of the books, periodicals, microforms, etc., in a real library and the folder or volume in which those media files are contained is the library.
While iTunes will allow you to add media to its library (iTunes library interface) from anywhere on any volume attached to your computer (e.g., branch libraries), iTunes generally expects your library to reside in a single folder (main library). In iTunes that folder is referred to as your iTunes Music folder and by default it is a folder named iTunes Music contained in your iTunes folder (~/Music/iTunes). The music folder can have any name and be located anywhere on any attached volume as long as you inform iTunes of where it is located by changing the iTunes Music folder location in the Advanced tab of iTunes’ preferences.
How you organize music within your music folder is unimportant, but iTunes must know the location of the (root) music folder in order to properly access the media files contained within that directory. The reason for that is because once you have defined a music folder location, or leave the default, that location is where iTunes will automatically place any new content that you add to iTunes’ library. Keeping the location of the music library straight is most important to iTunes users, such as myself, that keep their actual library on a separate volume from the system volume where the iTunes folder is located.
When iTunes uses the term library, it is actually referring to its database table file. Properly designed databases, particularly those that are scalable and that allow records (database entries) to be found or visually organized via multiple keys (metadata), as iTunes does, consist of two basic parts: the database, or source data (records), and the index table(s). In iTunes your media files are the records. Along with the actual media content, those files also contain a number of tags that provide a range of information about that particular media file (e.g., artist, song title, movie title, album, year, etc.).
The database table is the iTunes Library file located in your iTunes folder. That file is actually what iTunes references the vast majority of the time when you are browsing your collection. The table contains metadata about all of the media files in your library and it is that metadata that is displayed in iTunes when you browse your library. When you play content or edit tags, then iTunes directly accesses the files in your library. The table also contains your playlists and playlist folders, so that is the reason that Spotlight would seem to not find them on your computer’s hard drive; Spotlight most likely did list ‘iTunes Music Library.xml’, as that file is an XML version of iTunes database table.
If you copy the iTunes Music Library.xml file to the desktop on your old computer and open it, you will see the basic structure of the table. The first group of entries are the definitions of your media files—the code between the <dict> and </dict> tags—and contain the metadata that is displayed in iTunes and by which you can search and group music in iTunes various views. The definitions also contain metadata defining the location of the media file, if the track is enabled (checked) or disabled (un-checked), the (iTunes) track ID, etc.
If you scroll toward the end of the XML file, you will see the definitions of your playlists and playlist folders as well as some occasional data blocks that look like gibberish. The latter is the text representation of the binary code that defines the criteria for smart playlists. On thing that you will notice about the playlist definitions is that they do not contain detailed track info or metadata for the songs contained within the playlist(s). iTunes is a relational database, so the playlists do not contain any actual data, but instead a list of indices (pointers), the Track IDs, to the definitions for each track you have in your playlists. The definitions listed in the first part of the XML file also contain only a subset of the tracks ID3 tags. The definitions only require metadata for information that is relevant to permitting you to browse and organize your library in iTunes’ interface. In the track definition, the Location metadata is an index and points to the actual media file where the complete set of ID3 tags, as well as the actual media content, reside.
While your media resides in your music folder, the library structure you create in iTunes is actually a simple, albeit long, table stored in a separate file. Another component of iTunes is the artwork database kept in the Album Artwork folder. The Album Artwork folder contains a complex folder tree structure with proprietary .itc files at the leaves. I do not know what the exact structure of the .itc files is, but they play a role in storing image info for the various graphic-based views in iTunes (e.g., CoverFlow). Also, any songs you purchase from the iTunes Store will have the cover art stored in the Album Artwork folder; images that you add manually are stored in the actual media files.
*Transferring Your Library to a New Computer*
Now you see that there is more to iTunes than just your media files. Thus, if you want the playlists that you spent time building to migrate with your music collection simply copying the music folder to the new computer is not going to result in what you want: a complete transfer of the library you dedicated time and energy into organizing. When you transfer music files to a new computer iTunes builds a new library around that content and the only playlists that will be present are the defaults tha come with iTunes; your user-defined playlists will not appear on the new computer if you have not transferred the database table.
In order to successfully transfer iTunes to a new computer you need to move your library and everything that was built around that library. To perform a complete library transfer you need to follow this procedure:
1. *Consolidate your library* If you know for a fact that all of you media files are contained within a single root directory (e.g., iTunes Music), then this step is not necessary. If you do not have the preference to “Copy files to iTunes Music folder when adding to library” enabled, then there is a good chance that you will have orphaned media files and should consolidate your library just in case. To perform library consolidation go to Advanced > Consolidate Library (iTunes 7.x) or File > Library > Consolidate Library (iTunes 8).
2. *Transfer your database* Replace the default iTunes folder on your new Mac with the iTunes folder from your old Mac by transferring the entire folder. When asked if you wish to replace the existing iTunes, do so.
3. *Get the media library* If you keep your music in the default iTunes Music folder contained in the iTunes folder, then you have already performed this step. If not, transfer your music folder from you old Mac to wherever you wish for it to reside on your new Mac.
4. *Set up iTunes* Unless you already started modifying preferences in iTunes on the new Mac, when you launch iTunes you should see your music library just as you did on your old Mac.
a. If your library is in the default location, ~/Music/iTunes/iTunes music folder, iTunes will begin rebuilding your library after it launches. Once that process is completed, you should see your library with playlists and folders intact.
b. If your library is in an alternate location, you will see an empty library, but you should see your playlists and folders, albeit filled with broken links. Go to the Advanced tab in iTunes’ preferences and change the location of the iTunes Music folder to the location of your transferred music library. iTunes will begin rebuilding your library from the alternate folder. Once that process is completed your library should be just as it was on your old Mac.
5. *Keep your library consolidated* To insure that any new media that you add to iTunes stays with your main library when you add content to iTunes make sure the “Copy files” preference is enabled. If the “Copy files” preference is disabled then any content that does not come from the iTunes Store or ripped CDs that you add to your iTunes library will remain in the location where the content was originally placed.
Hopefully this helps you better understand how iTunes works and why simply transferring your media files results in a loss of your library’s structure. -
Sent Mail folder empty after upgrading from Tiger to Leopard
Hi,
Many thanks in advance for your attention.
Writing for a friend:
This is for their PowerPC G5. Running OS 10.5. Mail - version 3.
When they upgraded from Tiger to Leopard (not an Erase and Install), their Sent Mail folder in Mail was empty of any sent mail.
However, I can see they have sent mail in their Home/Library/Mail folder.
How to I get Sent Mail in Mail to see this?
(Drag and drop does not seem to work. I tried to drag and drop one saved mail from the Home Library/Mail folder into the Sent Mail folder in Mail and it didn't take).
They have only one email account.
Thank you,
- RossLonnie, thanks
Mailbox behaviors set up exactly as you describe, "Store sent messages on server" is checked and "Delete" set "Never".
Rebuild doesn't really help.
I use Kerio 6.0.6 mail server, with IMAP (143) for incoming and SMTP (25) for sending.
And it works already like four or five years without problems.
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Upgrading from Tiger to Leopard on and external (FireWire) drive...
Hi all,
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed somewhere on the www but after several hours of research, I'm embarrassed to admit I'm ready to call it quits (unless someone more tech savvy than I can help <:o)
I've been running my OS on a WD 500GB FireWire for the past couple of years. Switched to it shortly after realizing that the 80GB HD on my MacBook was insufficient for my needs.
Now I'm getting ready to upgrade from Tiger to Leopard and I've got some issues. Most importantly, when I launch the installer and it requires me to restart my system, I do so through both methods (holding down the "option" key to start up using the external HD and also by just allowing a normal boot under the old drive). In neither situation do I ever get the option to select where I'd like to install the new OS. In fact, when I allow the normal start without the "option" key being pressed, I don't even get to see the option to begin an installation. When I hold down the "option" key, I get the Mac OS X Install DVD screen (directory on the DVD), but it never gets to the point where I can start the installation.
I'm at a loss and getting a little frustrated (which has been my problem since I started with Macs--been a long time PC user and I'm always looking for the difficult way of doing things--so I'm probably just being PC-stupid as usual >;o)
Any assistance with getting me on the path to continued righteousness would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much in advance!
Ali T. Borahan
http://www.alisails.com
PS: Despite the fact that I'm PC-literate and Mac-stupid, I've managed to convince almost a dozen people to switch to Mac, simply because I'm hooked and love how the Mac community sticks together and helps one another (and also because I can't stand the Microsoft kingdom!!! <:o)Insert the Leopard DVD in the optical drive and restart the computer. After the chime press and hold down the "C" key until the dark gray Apple logo appears on the screen. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button.
When the menubar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu. After DU loads select your startup drive's entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior (4.0 for Tiger, and 4.1 for Leopard) and/or TechTool Pro (4.6.1 for Leopard) to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Continue with the installation process until you reach the point where you must select a Target drive. Select your Target drive then click on the Options button in the lower left corner of the dialog.
Select the Archive and Install option.
An Archive and Install will NOT erase your hard drive, but you must have sufficient free space for a second OS X installation which could be from 3-9 GBs depending upon the version of OS X and selected installation options. The free space requirement is over and above normal free space requirements which should be at least 6-10 GBs. Read all the linked references carefully before proceeding.
Your target drive must have repaired OK when you repaired it. Otherwise do not continue.
You have an option to preserve users and network preferences. Only select this option if you are sure you have no corrupted files in your user accounts. Otherwise leave this option unchecked. Click on the OK button and continue with the OS X Installation.
Upon completion of the Archive and Install you will have a Previous System Folder in the root directory. You should retain the PSF until you are sure you do not need to manually transfer any items from the PSF to your newly installed system.
After moving any items you want to keep from the PSF you should delete it. You can back it up if you prefer, but you must delete it from the hard drive.
You can now download a Combo Updater directly from Apple's download site to update your new system to the desired version as well as install any security or other updates. You can also do this using Software Update. -
I have recently upgraded my iBookG4 from Tiger to Leopard 10.5.8 and find my Bluetooth USB adaptor no longer connects. The Bluetooth pane says inactive. Does Leopard require USB 2.0. I've had the adaptor for some time so may be USB 1.0
Bluetooth icon on menu bar shows bluetooth off. When opening bluetooth preferences it shows the devices I've connected previously,( my mobile phone), and other devices I've attempted to connect but not very successfully: my iPhone and MiniMac. The bluetooth dongle in the USB port shows a continual blue light but does not react and the iBook does not recognise that it is there. There is absolutely no reaction when I try to pair my mobile phone, which I've done successfully before upgrading to Leopard, either by the iBook or the mobile phone.
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I upgraded my iBook G4 from 384MBytes to 640Mbytes and upgraded from Tiger to Leopard.
After a few weeks the HDD failed. I bought a new disk, installed it and trued to install Leopard, but the install fails reporting "insufficient memory".
I assume the installation requires more memory than the OS actually needs to be able to run.
I need Tiger install CD/DVD so I can install Tiger first and then upgrade to Leopard.Call Apple Customer Support 1-800-767-2775, provide the Serial Number and specifications of the Mac, and for a reasonable fee, they will supply a replacement set of system discs (if available).
The discs will be for the original version of the OS that was pre-installed when the Mac was manufactured.
You need much more RAM than that.
Leopard system requirements:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517
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