Why a getter method of a managed bean WILL be called multiple times

Why a getter method of a managed bean WILL be called multiple times during the JSF lifecycle?Why this designed?

This is by design indeed. Each step in the JSF lifecycle can call a getter to get the required information.

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Is there any method to get page name in managed bean? jsf2.0

Please help. Want to get page name in managed bean (application scoped). Page invoke bean through actionListener method.
Thanks in advance.

So, two solutions:
FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getViewRoot().getViewId() - actual page
FacesContext.getCurrentInstance().getExternalContext().getRequestHeaderMap().get("referer") - url in browser

Re:How to get the vo from managed bean

Hi all,
I am using Jdev11.1.2.3.0
My requirement is : I have one jspx page.In that page i have created one form,so i need to get the values from managed bean.here i wont create by using data control view instance.so finally i have to get the table values from managed bean.so how can i get it.can anyone help me please.
Thanks,
G.Shilpa

So you're not using ADF BC at all, right ?
From JSF point of view, it does not matter how you provide UI control values.
What you can do, for example, is to use pure JDBC in order to get and display the database values.
What you need in your backing bean, is appropriate properties (setter/getter method pairs).
In the getter, you can obtain DB values by using JDBC
Take a look at:
JSF 2.0 + JDBC integration example
JSF JDBC Integration
JDBC in JSF - YouTube

Why can't Weblogic 12c find Managed Bean by annotation,which in a jar?

the detail:
why can't Weblogic 12c find Managed Bean by annotation,which in a jar?

Hi,
I got the same problem with weblogic 12c.
Somehow this guy got it working by using CDI and creating an empty beans.xml, it did not work for me.
i found the tricky problem is that should put a empty but include the <beans> tag beans.xml file.
http://www.coderanch.com/t/562233/JSF/java/WebLogic-Eclipse-Indigo-develop-JSF
I also tried to skip managedbean and use CDI ( @named ) but then I get some jboss weld exceptions on the value attribute of some jsf components.
I also saw this post
Can't seem to get a trivial CDI example to work on Weblogic 12c
I don't use OEPE very often so I'll need to kick this around a little when I get a chance.
Just as an out there kind of thought, OEPE does use the split-directory model for deployment by default -- perhaps try adjusting it to use the exploded archive model instead, just as a test to see if it removes the error?
Right click the server config and select Properties > WebLogic > Publishing > Publish as exploded archive
It seems like the Virtual Application deployment model of OEPE doesn't support CDI.
thanks
Edited by: Edwin Biemond on Dec 28, 2011 10:07 PM
Edited by: Edwin Biemond on Dec 28, 2011 10:25 PM

Backing Bean constructor getting called multiple times

I have a List of records in the Table with a link Add.
When i click Add i show a popup dialog which is attached to the dialogListener.
On clicking OK on the dialog i want to add a record in the List in the backing Bean, but the Bean constructor is getting called multiple times.
and the list to which the table is attached is also getting called multiple times.
is there a way in which the method gets called only once?
Message was edited by:
user607056

Hi!
af:table have property ContentDelivery. When <default> (lazy), the table "frame" iz rendered in first page cycle, and content (rows in table) are fetched lazy i.e. in second cycle. Thus, your backing bean is constructed twice.
If you set ContentDelivery to immediate, the table including data rows is generated in single page cycle thus your backing bean is constructed only once.
Hope this helps,
PaKo

On Execute operation, the bean getter is being called multiple times

Hi,
I have a JCR data control, i am trying to write a method that returns predicate, but this method is being called multiple times, when executing the advanced search operation.
public List<Predicate> getPredicates() {
ArrayList<Predicate> predicates = new ArrayList<Predicate>();
   // predicates.add(new Predicate("jcr:content/idc:metadata/idc:xScope",Operator.EQUALS,"GLOBAL"));
DCBindingContainer bc=(DCBindingContainer)BindingContext.getCurrent().getCurrentBindingsEntry();
JUCtrlListBinding attrBinding=(JUCtrlListBinding) bc.findCtrlBinding("StateId");
Object stateId= attrBinding.getSelectedValue();
if(stateId instanceof Row){
predicates.add(new Predicate("jcr:content/idc:metadata/idc:xState"
, Operator.EQUALS
,((Row)stateId).getAttribute("StateId").toString()));
attrBinding=(JUCtrlListBinding) bc.findCtrlBinding("DistrictId");
Object districtId=attrBinding.getSelectedValue();
if(districtId instanceof Row){
      predicates.add(new Predicate("jcr:content/idc:metadata/idc:xDistrict",Operator.EQUALS,((Row)districtId).getAttribute("DistrictId").toString()));
    attrBinding=(JUCtrlListBinding) bc.findCtrlBinding("Scope");
    Object scopeId=attrBinding.getSelectedValue();
    if(scopeId instanceof Row){
        predicates.add(new Predicate("jcr:content/idc:metadata/idc:xScope",Operator.EQUALS,((Row)scopeId).getAttribute("ScopeType")));
    AttributeBinding tempAttrBinding=(AttributeBinding)bc.findCtrlBinding("CreatedDate");
    Object createdDate=tempAttrBinding.getInputValue();
    if(createdDate!=null){
        predicates.add(new Predicate("jcr:content/jcr:created",Operator.EQUALS,createdDate.toString()));
    if (predicates.size()>0){
      return predicates;
return Collections.emptyList();
} The problem is while it's being called multiple times different list's are being returned which is causing the method not to work . The bean is in pageFlowScope .

That is bc ADF life cicle... Is always executing 2 times...

Php include file getting called multiple times

I have created a form in file career.php. To carry out the validation user_registration.php is called at the beginning of the file.
user_registration.php in turn calls library.php. Issue is that library.php is getting called multiple times.
I have attached phperror.log which confirms the same.
career.php
<?php
session_start();
require_once('phpScript/user_registration.php');
?>
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
user_registration.php
<?php // This file is used for validating user form data. It calls process_upload.php to validate file uploaded by user
$errors = array();
$messages = array();
$testing = TRUE;
error_log("Enter- user_registration.php. Testing mode $testing", 0);
try {
          error_log("user_registration.php: Entered try catch block",0);
require_once('library.php');
          error_log("Successfully called library.php",0);
          $public_key = '6LeDsNUSAAAAAIoaYuNhGm2zx_qgBECiybUWUkt6';
          $private_key = '6LeDsNUSAAAAACuvmJrec-_5seLdmhqUMngt8AiU';
          $recaptcha = new Zend_Service_ReCaptcha($public_key, $private_key);
          if(isset($_POST['submit'])) {          // Only execute if form is submitted by user
            error_log("user_registration.php. Submit button pressed by user", 0);
            require_once('Zend/Mail.php');
            $mail = new Zend_Mail('UTF-8');
            if (isset($_POST['name'])) {
                    $val = new Zend_Validate_Regex('/^\p{L}+[-\'\p{L} ]+$/u');
                    if (!$val->isValid($_POST['name'])) {
                      $errors['name'] = "Please enter your name, no numbers permitted";
error_log("Exit- user_registration.php.", 0);
library.php
<?php
error_log("Enter- library.php. Testing mode $testing", 0);
if ($testing) // If true then go to testing mode
          $library = '/Applications/MAMP/htdocs/mgtools-india/ZendFramework/library';
          set_include_path(get_include_path() . PATH_SEPARATOR . $library);
require_once('Zend/Loader/Autoloader.php');
try {
Zend_Loader_Autoloader::getInstance();
error_log("Exit- library.php. Testing mode $testing", 0);
phperror.log
Marker - 12-Oct-2012 10:27:26 AM
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:33 UTC] Enter- user_registration.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:33 UTC] user_registration.php: Entered try catch block
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:33 UTC] Enter- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:33 UTC] Exit- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:33 UTC] Successfully called library.php
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:36 UTC] Enter- user_registration.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:36 UTC] Entered try catch block
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:36 UTC] Enter- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:36 UTC] Exit- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:57:36 UTC] Successfully called library.php
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] Enter- user_registration.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] Entered try catch block
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] Enter- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] Exit- library.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] Successfully called library.php
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:38 UTC] user_registration.php. Submit button pressed by user
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:39 UTC] user_registration.php, Processing enquiry form
[12-Oct-2012 04:58:39 UTC] Enter- process_upload.php. Testing mode 1
[12-Oct-2012 04:59:01 UTC] Exit- user_registration.php.
I am not able to understand why user_registration.php and library.php are executing again and again.
I ran this test on local testing server MAMP.
The results are the same on remote server also.
Please guide.

I'm not sure what's happening there. The important question is whether the code is executed successfully.
Since you're using the Zend Framework, it might be better to ask in a dedicated ZF forum.

Validation Event getting called multiple times

I am saving an eform after entering a wrong percentage in it.On opening the same eform it gives the validate message "Percentage not valid" pop up .This popup should come only once but its coming around 25-26 times.I checked and find that the validate event is getting called multiple times for the same field.Can someone tell why this is happening and how to resolve this

Hi rupali Sri,
Our forum here is for questions related to the LiveCycle Collaboration Service product.
You might want to post your question to the Livecycle Forms forum:
http://forums.adobe.com/community/livecycle/livecycle_es/forms_es
If that's not the correct forum, start from here:
http://forums.adobe.com/index.jspa?view=overview
Hope this helps.
Good luck,
Julien
LCCS Quality Engineering

ValidateEntity getting called multiple times

Hi,
There is a parent EO and a child EO. There is a composite association between the parent and child.Association accessors are generated for both source and destination. In the ChildEO's doDML method , the following code is added.
Long abc = getPArentEO().getAttr1();
Long xyz = getPArentEO().getAttr2();
setAttr3(abc);
setAttr4(xyz);
super.doDML();
getParentEO() is the association accessor .
After the addition of this code, all the method validators of the parent are getting fired more than once. The validateEntity of the parentEO is getting called more than once if I set some attribute of the childEO in childEO's doDML . Is this the expected behaviour?
Thanks.

Even on adding the setter in prepareForDML (either in parent or child) , the validateEntity is getting called multiple times. In fact ,validateEntity is getting called once before prepareForDML and again after. One of my method validators fail on the subsequent call giving an error ..Please help.

Getter is called multiple times

Hi All,
I my JSF page i am using one foreach which will read elements from an ArrayList. ArrayList is present in one PagesFlowSope-Bean.
I am facing problem that, the getter for ArrayList is called multiple times.I want to restrict that,is there any way for doing this.
Thanks in advance,

Your getter gets called every time the component/page gets rendered/refreshed. If you feel that it refreshes too many times, check the partial triggers on that component or its parent. Just a thought, to avoid any logic getting called in your getter multiple times, if possible, put a empty or null check on your attribute and initialize it only if it is null/empty. In that way even if it gets called multiple times your logic to populate your ArrayList doesn't fire everytime.
Good luck !

Listener method is called multiple times

why is a listener method called multiple times when the user interacted
with the component just once?

Because you have a bug in your code.
If you want further help post a Short, Self Contained, Compilable and Executable, Example Program ([url http://homepage1.nifty.com/algafield/sscce.html]SSCCE) that demonstrates the problem.
And don't forget to use [url http://forum.java.sun.com/help.jspa?sec=formatting]code formatting when posting code.

Finalize() method being called multiple times for same object?

I got a dilly of a pickle here.
Looks like according to the Tomcat output log file that the finalize method of class User is being called MANY more times than is being constructed.
Here is the User class:
package com.db.multi;
import java.io.*;
import com.db.ui.*;
import java.util.*;
* @author DBriscoe
public class User implements Serializable {
    private String userName = null;
    private int score = 0;
    private SocketImage img = null;
    private boolean gflag = false;
    private Calendar timeStamp = Calendar.getInstance();
    private static int counter = 0;
    /** Creates a new instance of User */
    public User() { counter++;
    public User(String userName) {
        this.userName = userName;
        counter++;
    public void setGflag(boolean gflag) {
        this.gflag = gflag;
    public boolean getGflag() {
        return gflag;
    public void setScore(int score) {
        this.score = score;
    public int getScore() {
        return score;
    public void setUserName(String userName) {
        this.userName = userName;
    public String getUserName() {
        return userName;
    public void setImage(SocketImage img) {
        this.img = img;
    public SocketImage getImage() {
        return img;
    public void setTimeStamp(Calendar c) {
        this.timeStamp = c;
    public Calendar getTimeStamp() {
        return this.timeStamp;
    public boolean equals(Object obj) {
        try {
            if (obj instanceof User) {
                User comp = (User)obj;
                return comp.getUserName().equals(userName);
            } else {
                return false;
        } catch (NullPointerException npe) {
            return false;
    public void finalize() {
        if (userName != null && !userName.startsWith("OUTOFDATE"))
            System.out.println("User " + userName + " destroyed. " + counter);
    }As you can see...
Every time a User object is created, a static counter variable is incremented and then when an object is destroyed it appends the current value of that static member to the Tomcat log file (via System.out.println being executed on server side).
Below is the log file from an example run in my webapp.
Dustin
User Queue Empty, Adding User: com.db.multi.User@1a5af9f
User Dustin destroyed. 0
User Dustin destroyed. 0
User Dustin destroyed. 0
User Dustin destroyed. 0
User Dustin destroyed. 0
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 1
User Dustin destroyed. 1
User Dustin destroyed. 1
User Dustin destroyed. 1
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
User Dustin destroyed. 2
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
User Dustin destroyed. 3
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
User Dustin destroyed. 4
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
User Dustin destroyed. 5
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
User Dustin destroyed. 6
Joe
USER QUEUE: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
AFTER METHOD: false
User Dustin pulled from Queue, Game created: Joe
User Already Placed: Dustin with Joe
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
User Dustin destroyed. 7
INSIDE METHOD: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
USER QUEUE: true
INSIDE METHOD: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
User Dustin destroyed. 9
User Joe destroyed. 9
User Dustin destroyed. 9
User Dustin destroyed. 9
User Dustin destroyed. 9
User Dustin destroyed. 9
INSIDE METHOD: true
INSIDE METHOD: false
USER QUEUE: true
INSIDE METHOD: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
INSIDE METHOD: true
INSIDE METHOD: false
USER QUEUE: true
INSIDE METHOD: false
INSIDE METHOD: false
It really does seem to me like finalize is being called multiple times for the same object.
That number should incremement for every instantiated User, and finalize can only be called once for each User object.
I thought this was impossible?
Any help is appreciated!

Thanks...
I am already thinking of ideas to limit the number of threads.
Unfortunately there are two threads of execution in the servlet handler, one handles requests and the other parses the collection of User objects to check for out of date timestamps, and then eliminates them if they are out of date.
The collection parsing thread is currently a javax.swing.Timer thread (Bad design I know...) so I believe that I can routinely check for timestamps in another way and fix that problem.
Just found out too that Tomcat was throwing me a ConcurrentModificationException as well, which may help explain the slew of mysterious behavior from my servlet!
The Timer thread has to go. I got to think of a better way to routinely weed out User objects from the collection.
Or perhaps, maybe I can attempt to make it thread safe???
Eg. make my User collection volatile?
Any opinions on the best approach are well appreciated.

Can't get JSF to access managed bean methods from web page

I'm using NetBeans 6.7.1 and Glassfish v2.1
Having problems here can somebody please help? It is really
frustrating because I have written apps like this before in fact I
used one as a model to create an even simpler app and still can't get
it to work. I ran it through the debugger and it stops in the
constructor so it looks like the bean object is being created, but the
setUid method and the testit method are not being entered when I click
on the enter commandbutton. Can somebody PLEASE give me an idea as to
what might be going on? I am totally stumped and this is holding up
some important work I need to get done. Any help would be greatly
appreciated:
web.xml:
- Show quoted text -
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<web-app version="2.5" xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-app_2_5.xsd">
<context-param>
<param-name>com.sun.faces.verifyObjects</param-name>
<param-value>false</param-value>
</context-param>
<context-param>
<param-name>com.sun.faces.validateXml</param-name>
<param-value>true</param-value>
</context-param>
<context-param>
<param-name>javax.faces.STATE_SAVING_METHOD</param-name>
<param-value>client</param-value>
</context-param>
<servlet>
<servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
<servlet-class>javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet</servlet-class>
<load-on-startup>1</load-on-startup>
</servlet>
<servlet-mapping>
<servlet-name>Faces Servlet</servlet-name>
<url-pattern>/faces/*</url-pattern>
</servlet-mapping>
<session-config>
<session-timeout>
30
</session-timeout>
</session-config>
<welcome-file-list>
<welcome-file>faces/welcomeJSF.jsp</welcome-file>
</welcome-file-list>
</web-app>
faces-config.xml:
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>

<faces-config version="1.2"
xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee
http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-facesconfig_1_2.xsd">
<managed-bean>
<managed-bean-name>testbean</managed-bean-name>
<managed-bean-class>com.lingosys.quoteest.testbean</managed-bean-class>
<managed-bean-scope>session</managed-bean-scope>
</managed-bean>
<navigation-rule>
<from-view-id>/go.jsp</from-view-id>
<navigation-case>
<from-outcome>correct</from-outcome>
<to-view-id>/ok.jsp</to-view-id>
<redirect/>
</navigation-case>
</navigation-rule>
</faces-config>
go.jsp:
<%@page contentType="text/html" pageEncoding="UTF-8"%>
<%@taglib prefix="f" uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core"%>
<%@taglib prefix="h" uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/html"%>
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<%--
This file is an entry point for JavaServer Faces application.
--%>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
<title>JSP Page</title>
</head>
<body>
<f:view>
<h1>JAS Generator</h1>
<p/>
<h:form id="testForm" enctype="multipart/form-data" >
<p/>Both fields are required.
<p/>Enter Test ID: <h:inputText id="pid"
value="#{testbean.uid}" required="true"/>
<p/><h:commandButton value="Enter"
action="#{testbean.testit}"/>
</h:form>
</f:view>
</body>
</html>
testbean.java:
* To change this template, choose Tools | Templates
* and open the template in the editor.
package com.lingosys.quoteest;
* @author mphoenix
public class testbean {
private String uid;
public testbean() {
int x=0;
public String getUid() {
return uid;
public void setUid(String uid) {
this.uid = uid;
public String testit() {
return "correct";
}

MikePhoenix wrote:
enctype="multipart/form-data"
Why?
Oh, in the future please post code in code blocks. Use the CODE button to get them. Use the Preview tab to see if anything went right.

Get component Id in managed bean

Hi experts,
I am going to ask a foolish question, but since i'm a newbie i hope you'll forgive me .
I am using JDev version: 11.1.2.3.0. My question is: Is it possible to get a component id inside a managed bean? By components i mean, buttons or menu items. The scenario i would like to create is this:
I am using JasperReports to generate some required reports. I would like to do something like having a Menu with different items. By clicking each one of them, set a string in the managed bean i'm using to generate the reports (actually the string would be the name of the jrxml file i am going to load). And this string would get it's value based on which menu item is selected.
Is it possible to do such a thing? Or may be some other way would be more suitable?
Thank you in advance!

MenuRenderer is a class that renders the current value of
UISelectOne or UISelectMany component as a list of
menu options and makes use of getId.
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Cannot get reference to a managed bean from another

After reading one of BlausC article:
http://balusc.blogspot.com/2006/06/communication-in-jsf.html#AccessingAnotherManagedBean
I always get null when I try to get a reference to a session scoped managed bean from a current bean:
Here is part of the faces context config file:
<faces-config>
<managed-bean>
<managed-bean-name>approvalManagementBean</managed-bean-name>
<managed-bean-class>com.waseel.waseele.presentation.approval.management.ApprovalManagementBean</managed-bean-class>
<managed-bean-scope>session</managed-bean-scope>
<managed-property>
<property-name>configService</property-name>
<property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.config.ConfigService</property-class>
   <value>#{configService}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
   <property-name>approvalService</property-name>
   <property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.approval.ApprovalService</property-class>
   <value>#{approvalService}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
   <property-name>claimManagementService</property-name>
   <property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.claim.management.ClaimManagementService</property-class>
   <value>#{claimManagementService}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
   <property-name>codedValuesLoaderServices</property-name>
   <property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.claim.extraction.loader.codedValuesLoader.CodedValuesLoaderServices</property-class>
   <value>#{codedValue}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
   <property-name>approvalSubmission</property-name>
   <property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.approval.submission.ApprovalSubmission</property-class>
   <value>#{approvalSubmission}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
   <property-name>payerTpaRelationService</property-name>
   <property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.payerTpaRelation.PayerTpaRelationService</property-class>
   <value>#{payerTpaRelationService}</value>
</managed-property>
<managed-property>
<property-name>payerTpaFiller</property-name>
<property-class>com.waseel.waseele.business.payerTpaRelation.PayerTpaFiller</property-class>
<value>#{payerTpaFiller}</value>
</managed-property>
</managed-bean>and part of my code:
public String displayApprovalInEditMode()throws Exception{
          //This is cross-managed been access; I need to get the current Approval in the approval management been
          ApprovalManagementBean appMangBean=(ApprovalManagementBean) FacesContext.getCurrentInstance()
                                                  .getExternalContext().getSessionMap().get("approvalManagementBean");What possible problems may be?
Can any one tell when these session managed beans object get created? is it at start up? or when loading a JSF page that use a bean ?
becasue this code work in places while not in another

You must be doing something wrong. I cannot reproduce this problem with the following SSCCE on JSF 1.2_13 at Tomcat 6.0.20.
Bean1package mypackage;
public class Bean1 {
    private Bean2 bean2;
    public boolean isBean2Present() {
        return bean2 != null;
    public Bean2 getBean2() {
        return bean2;
    public void setBean2(Bean2 bean2) {
        this.bean2 = bean2;
}Bean2package mypackage;
public class Bean2 {
}JSF<%@ taglib prefix="h" uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/html" %>
<%@ taglib prefix="f" uri="http://java.sun.com/jsf/core" %>
<f:view>
    <html>
        <head>
            <title>Test</title>
        </head>
        <body>
            <h:outputText value="Is bean2 present? #{bean1.bean2Present ? 'yes' : 'no'}" />
       </body>
    </html>
</f:view>faces-config<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<faces-config xmlns="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
    xsi:schemaLocation="http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee http://java.sun.com/xml/ns/javaee/web-facesconfig_1_2.xsd"
    version="1.2">
    <managed-bean>
        <managed-bean-name>bean1</managed-bean-name>
        <managed-bean-class>mypackage.Bean1</managed-bean-class>
        <managed-bean-scope>session</managed-bean-scope>
        <managed-property>
            <property-name>bean2</property-name>
            <value>#{bean2}</value>
        </managed-property>
    </managed-bean>
    <managed-bean>
        <managed-bean-name>bean2</managed-bean-name>
        <managed-bean-class>mypackage.Bean2</managed-bean-class>
        <managed-bean-scope>session</managed-bean-scope>
    </managed-bean>
</faces-config>It prints 'yes'.

Why a getter method of a managed bean WILL be called multiple times

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