X11 and window managers

i have tried to change window managers on x11 but everytime i try, it gives me an error saying that there is a manager already open. How do you quit the default window manager?

How do you quit the default window manager? You don't...that's not how window managers work:) You need to create a file called .xinitrc in your home directory, and have it start the window manager of your choice. If no such file exists, X11 uses the default one (/etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc), which starts quartzwm. Easiest approach is to copy that file and then edit yours to make whatever changes you want.

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  • Arch Linux 32x64 bits, Developers and Window Managers Support

    Greetings!
    After having some time issues due to college that prevented me from this, I wish to have again a rolling-release distro in my computer.
    I was in the past a big fan of Gentoo, but now it seems too much work to compile everything from scratch. Also they seemed to have some issues with the developers - the original developer if I understood correctly has quit the project, others were forced to quit due to misbehavior, etc. - and maybe due to some other facts their popularity on distrowatch dropped drastically.
    Then this year I've tried Debian Testing... My goodness, that was messy. Tons and tons of bugs on XFCE, like thunar hanging on load and displaying error messages, gedit not removing the ~lock files properly on close, so I had the myfile and ~myfile, and many others. Really, I gave up.
    I wish to give Arch Linux I try then. Of course that would be quite stupid to ask if arch linux is the best choice in an arch linux forum, but there are some key points that if you could answer would help me a lot to give it a try:
    1. 32x64
    "Should I use 32-bit or 64-bit?" is NOT the intended question. Many still prefer 32-bit-pae on a 64-bit capable machine, others prefer 64-bit. I wish to use 64-bit. Made my mind. But I would like to know if the support of 64-bit on Arch Linux is as good as 32-bit and if it comes by default with cross-libs which makes me able to run 32-bit applications natively right out of the box,
    2. Developers
    About how many and what's their relation with the users? When I've googled for Arch Linux, I've had found a review video on youtube where some guy said in the comments that developer's mind changed a lot in the past 2 years and they introduced many buggy packages that required manual workaround. At the end of his comments, he said "Sympathy? Apologies for the ****? Nope. blame the user for trusting 'pacman -Syu'" Surely I don't know which are these options because I haven't read about pacman yet (just know it's the default package manager) but you get the idea.
    Another key question: Is Arch Linux hiring new developers over the time? Replacing the ones that leaves for the many reasons?
    3. Window Managers Support
    With Gnome3's overall rejection (including mine), we have only two options: Switch to KDE or try other Window Managers. I still wish to have faith on gtk, so the first option is still not considered by me. I don't wish to know "which one is the best", because that's another large discussion just as the 32-bit x 64-bit. Just how good is Arch's support (updated constantly? bug-fixes?) on:
    - XFCE
    - MATE
    - Cinnamon
    (Of course there are others like LXDE, Enlightenment, etc. but I've decided to narrow down to XFCE even having quite bad experiences on Debian Testing.)
    4. Package Manager
    Last, being a rolling-release dist, can I add an option for a specific package to install a specific older version and/or not upgrade when you tell the dist. to upgrade everything? I remember that back on Gentoo I could edit a text file and just type the version of the package I wished to keep and the "update everything" option wouldn't touch the package (worked also to try new versions that were still not stable enough).
    Any replies will be very appreciated. Sorry for the long post.
    Best regards.

    I'll start at the end with #4.  Of course on the arch forums you will get people who are biased towards liking arch - but I think if you ask in other communities you will regularly hear that arch's package management system is its greatest strength.  Pacman is the primary tool for this, but we also have makepkg for things in the Arch User Repository (AUR), and the Arch Build System (ABS) to recompile anything from the main repos with additional/alternate compilation options.
    But for your direct question, there is an option to only upgrade to a particular version of a given package.  There is an option in pacman's configuration file for just this purpose.  However depending on what the package is, this could lead to problems.  Users are discouraged from updating most of their system while keeping some older packages - This can lead to issues with shared dependencies.  Of course if you build the package from source (AUR or ABS) yourself, such issues would be easy to resolve.  Is there a certain package you know you'd want to keep at an older version?  If you tell us what it is, we can give more specific information on how easy/hard it would be to accomplish.
    #3: Arch is a DIY distro.  You choose whatever window manager / DE you want.  I can vouche for XFCE working wonderfully in arch.  There are also numerous archers who use mate and cinnamon.  I have heard of some problems, but (AFAIK) these have nothing to do with compatibility with arch, rather these are due to upstream issues.  In other words, cinnamon, mate, xfce, or any other WM should work just as well on arch as on any other distro.  I'd bet our wiki for installing and configuring those WMs are better than those of the distros that bundle the WM with the core install.  (In addition to package management, you will find the arch wiki is second to none).
    #2: I can't answer with any specifics - other than to say they continue to do an excellent job.  I am not surprised by the youtube video - not because I'd agree with it, quite the opposite.  But as arch is a DIY distro it puts some responsibility on the user to maintain their own system.  If one is not prepared for nor willing to do this, they often become frustrated and end up blaming someone else.  Often this is the developers, sometimes it is the forum moderators, other times it is the whole arch community.  In every case these accusations are absurd.  Your questions on replacement of developers is a good question though - there is a history page on the wiki which might give some insight on this, but I suspect others will have better input on this.
    #1: I use i686 (32bit) on two of my computers and it works perfectly.  It sounds, however, that a majority of the community uses 64bit (which I just updated to on one of my computers).  My 64bit system works perfectly as well, but I don't have any 32bit-only apps.  Occasionally there are forum threads about some issue or another with "multilib" applications which are 32bit programs run in a 64bit system.  Generally these threads seem to be resolved without much hassle.  You can search for some of them yourself: Skype seems to be a common topic of such issues.
    All in all, I'd reiterate arch's strengths in it's package management and wiki/documentation.  Potential weaknesses could be found by users who are unwilling or unable to take responsibility for their own system.  I word this is a bit biased manner - there are many people who have no interest in being responsible for maintaining their own system, a majority of all computer users would fall into this category; most of them would be quite unhappy with arch linux.  If you were happy with gentoo in the past and only want to avoid constant recompiling then you probably would be one who could be very happy with arch.
    Or an even shorter summary: try it out.  If you don't like it, switch.

  • Transparency and window managers

    I'm trying to figure out how a window manager handles transparency in it's clients, and if it's done through Xlib or something similar. If anyone here has some idea how this works, any little explanation or a pointer to a guide would be much appreciated.
    Reason I'm asking is that I've got this little program that uses the Cairo library (more specifically the function set_source_rgba from that library) to set the alpha value of a window. This works fine in Openbox with xcompmgr, but I'm running Evilwm with xcompmgr and all I get is a gray background.
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    WMs should not touch transparency (you can add transparency to a 20-year old WM using stuff like xcompmgr).
    xcompmgr has to interface with the WM though, so I think it expects it to follow certain standards or make certain properties available. That might be where your problem lies.

  • A Noobs Quest to Understanding dwm [and window managers in general]

    Hello,
    I've just switched to dwm. I would like to begin patching and contribute patches to it.
    To do this i need to understand dwm, that is... read the source code.
    I know a bit of C, will be learning more in the coming days. Looking at the dwm.c, i find it really overwhleming. I feel as though there are lots of fundamental concepts [to windowmanagers, to linux in general] that i don't know enough about, or don't know about at all that gets in the way of my understanding. I've only been with linux/arch for 4 months now.
    So i'm looking for some tips!
    What concepts do i need to understand in order to understand dwm.c?
    Any advice on actually reading dwm.c (general advice also welcome)
    Any helpfull resources that helped you?
    Thank you for your time!

    TheCrownedFox wrote:I too have undertaken the same quest and run into the same roadblocks you have.
    Isn't it nice to know your not alone
    Don't try to solve non-existing problems. Start using plain dwm (only editing config.h), familiarize yourself with it → with time you'll get to know it and therefore digging into the code will be a lot easier.
    If you just read the code without understanding the program at all, you'll only see a mess. You need to "feel" the program you want to hack — to know what it's doing, so that when you see some part of its code you'll be like "this code does <bla>".
    Use it, and when you are comfortable with it, then start asking such question — they'll be a lot easier to answer, and a lot more to the point.
    I know what you mean! Thanks for putting it into words!
    I know my question is general and vague, I just don't know
    what else to do when I feel this way. Are these types of questions
    welcome on the arch forums?
    Last edited by fawkes5 (2013-04-19 07:30:48)

  • [Solved] Tiling window managers and on-screen keyboards

    I've got a small, old tablet pc with a 10" touchscreen, and was hoping to use a tiling window manager so that I could have an on-screen keyboard (onboard, cellwriter etc) stuck to the bottom third of the screen, and other applications 'fullscreened' in the rest of it, preferably in tabs.
    I've tried a few tabbed tiling wm's (i3, xmonad, wmii, ion3) and while I can get the layout I want, I'm unable to use the onscreen keyboard due to focus switching - clicking on the 'keys' of the keyboard (or in fact, moving the cursor into it's frame/window/whatever) moves the focus to the keyboard, so it sends the typed text to itself.
    Since tiling wm's are usually targeted at keyboard users, I'm having trouble finding which wm's listen to the onscreen keyboard's 'nofocus' properties. Does anyone know of any tiling wm's that respect that property and work with onscreen keyboards? Or even if there are simple config changes I can do to stop the keyboard from getting focus?
    Failing that, any other window managers I could try? fwiw, I really liked twindy (http://www.niallmoody.com/twindy/about.htm) but it suffered from the same problem (and wasted a fair amount of space with its sidebar).
    Thanks!
    Last edited by mjc506 (2010-12-10 00:41:01)

    Ah, thanks, that got me looking for and finding an xmonad patch that should make it not focus on onboard and cellwriter, amongst others: http://code.google.com/p/xmonad/issues/detail?id=177 Its a shame that the patch still isn't in the darcs repo, but I guess a working open office is more important that the few people using onscreen keyboards!
    ...time to compile from source... ugh - only got a single core running at 900kHz...

  • Tialing window managers (dwm) and gtk themes

    Is it posable to use GTK themes with tialing window managers?, i.e. to make firefox less ugly.
    Also would it be posable to combine a tialing window manager with a pannel aplication, i.e. gnome-pannel. to make a more productive desktop expiriance?
    I like tialing aplications (Blender), but sofar the tialing window managers I have tryed(wmii and dwm) dont seem terably useable. I am looking for somwthing that works more like Blender, create tiles by hovering the mouse over a border, right click, split. this prosess would be folowed in reverce to get rid of a tile. currantly running aplications can be assighned to a tile from a drop down list in the corner. aplications started from eather a terminal, or a auto hiding pannel at the top of the screen, which also displays system infomation.
    Are there any DE's like this, or should i start coding one
    Last edited by Hessiess (2008-07-22 20:34:02)

    rson451 wrote:As for the rest, I've never used Blender so I have no clue what you are talking about.
    In Blender to subdivide the main window you right click on the border between two windows and select "Split Area" from the context menu, then you move the mouse to the place you want to split and click. If you start from a horizontal border you make a vertical split, and if you start from a vertical border you make a horizontal split. To remove a division you select "Join Areas" from the same context menu, and then click the window you want to remove. Windows have a sort of menu/status bar, and it has a popup menu from which you can select any of the "programs" (3d view, text editor, preferences, &c) that are part of Blender. Window borders can be dragged for resizing, of course.
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  • 2 problems in one with Window Managers

    Hi there...
    I a newbie to the Unix world so.. forgive me if i ask silly questions
    From what I understood, Quartz-wm is the "default" apple window manager (along with twm).
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    usually, I get the following message:
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    There was a major change in X11 between 10.4 and 10.5. It looks like you are using 10.4.11, in which case your problem is simply that you need to (a) start X11.app and (b) set the DISPLAY variable in Terminal in a way that is appropriate for your shell. You may have been getting 10.5-specific advice, since that is what many people are posting about these days.
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    I've put more info here.
    Here's an example:

  • Does Something Like This Exist Already (for Window Managers)

    I know that one can use idesk to produce launchers for desktop programs in window managers like Openbox, but what about an actual small file manager, that always sits on the desktop, confined to its own little space.  Kind of like conky, if this makes sense. 
    I don't have a great deal of programming knowledge, just basics, but I've toyed with the idea of making a script to constantly reedit the idesk config file to do this, and while it could work, it's messy at best, and doesn't provide the same desired effect that a small desktop folder sitting on the WM desktop would.
    If this does exist, I give my apologies, but I did try to search Google for it, but got junk results.  Also, would something like this be feasible? (I am looking for a way to improve my programming skills over the summer, and was thinking that this could possibly be a way to do it.)  Even further, would it be acceptable to use Python for it?

    whoops wrote:
    Hi!
    I don't really get what you mean... the Desktop usually is a file manager, isn't it? I'm not sure if Thunar draws the desktop, but Nautilus can even be pretty bitchy if something else (like conky) wants to have a piece. I didn't care enough about rox and its "everything's a folder"-philosophy to take a really close look at it, but there was an option to have it provide a desktop, too, if I remember right. And rox sounded/looks a lot, as it would provide the most "normal filemanager" behaviour when providing the Desktop (didn't try though - maybe I will).
    http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5576/shot0004bvb.jpg
    Did my best to try to elaborate by using an example there on a screenshot of my desktop. (A sloppy edit done in the GIMP)
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    Last edited by ntowakbh (2009-06-13 21:04:43)

  • What is X11 and what does it do is it worth downloading i've just got a new Macbook air

    What is x11and what does it do i've just bought a Macbook Air note book and was wondering if this x11 is worth downloading

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  • I downloaded gimp+x11 and message says can't uninstall -help please

    I downloaded gimp with X11 and want to uninstall it but an icon of a hard drive is in my sidebar under my mac hard drive icon  with  gimp X11 on it   and when I tried to drag it to the trash, a message popped up saying "can't = put it in trash because gimp cannot be uninstalled" . Please help me. I have an older version of adobe creative suite but wanted a simpler paint program to merge art and photos. I desperately want to uninstall gimp because it is not even as good as Tuxpaint which my granddaughter uses at school and which I realized has options of photo merging also and seems like a better designed program even if it is for kids. The only problem with Tuxpaint is enlarging its canvas or workspace window and I haven't yet found how to export it's images but my granddaughter loves it and will flip when she realizes she can load photos from her digital camera, I hope. My main problem though is getting rid of gimp.  Thank you for your help.

    It sounds like you have a disk image mounted. If that's so, unmount it by clicking the eject icon that appears when you mouse over it in the Finder sidebar, then move the image file (something like "Gimp.dmg") to the Trash.

  • Tiling Window Managers; where to start?

    I'm looking for a wm for my laptop. It is relatively fast, 4gb of ram, dual core processor, etc. I don't like dealing with some of the bloat that is gnome/kde. On my desktop I've used openbox for quite some time, but what I really miss on my laptop is the expose function to quickly view all open windows, since a laptop monitor can get a bit cramped. I tried to work with skippy and the xautolock but it wasn't nearly the same. It seems like the only solutions are either going back to gnome/xfce + compiz, or compiz standalone (how is this?), or to try out a tiling window manager. What would you recommend? Where does one start? Will this solve my problem?

    When it comes to a wm, people can get rabid about them;  almost as bad as when it comes to distro of choice!
    Anyway, I have used a few tiling window managers myself, and liked every one that I have used, which includes awesome and xmonad.
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  • Using X11 and Fink/Fink Commander to run Compiz Fusion?

    Hi! One of my friends who loves Ubuntu Linux showed me some weird app called Compiz Fusion and im like ooo... i wanna play wiht that. And I remembered that OS X had a way of installing Linux apps.. so I downloaded the .tar of compiz fusion and I also downloaded and installed Fink and Fink Commander for OS X 10.5.2 but um.. yeah Im not very good with running terminal and junk.. I was following directions so I checked my list of app packages Fink could install in Terminal but either I didnt see compiz or it came up as a name I didnt understand.. does anyone here have experience running X11 and Fink? Or if you have a link where I can teach myself X11 and Fink that would work too! Thanks in advance!

    thepotter wrote:
    Whoa there etersoft, I don't want to get in a flame war.
    Not to worry. I would lose interest long before that happened
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    Personally, I like both.
    I like UNIX - a lot. But I'm not too fond of Linux. It is for people who do want to build their own machines out of components. I'm a software person, not a hardware person. That doesn't interest me in the least. As a software person, I have little interest in developing software for Linux because every single Linux box is unique. That is a hassle I don't want to deal with. That is why I like MacOS X so much - all the power of Solaris with the beauty and easy-of-use of a Mac.
    In the past there were tons of issues doing linux installs, and linux was fairly labeled as finicky and difficult. By the same token, when I was trying to upgrade to Leopard recently, I got a warning that my only option was "erase and install".
    You lucked out. Erase and install is the best way to install a major OS upgrade.
    No other options, no explanation why, no suggestions for fixing it -- it was as mysterious as a Linux install from 1999, albeit with a much prettier formatting error message.
    In 1999, I didn't even get that much from Linux. The X server just crashed as soon as the install was done and took the boot partition with it - reinstall from scratch. I have VectorLinux running in Parallels, but I never use it.

  • X11 and Remote KDE desktop

    I have started using my Mac for Unix systems administration using X11 and XDMCP (??) to a local linux box running KDE. I start X with -query a.b.c.d and running fullscreen I get a nice fullscreen desktop login. Everything was working fine until I realised that I was still running the Panther version of X11 on my Tiger system. I have upgraded from the install CD and now have a minor but impossible problem.
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    Remote Control is a built-in feature for SCCM 2012 and uses the RPC protocol. When you use this, the user can still be logged on while helping.
    Remote Desktop is a buit-in feature for Windows and uses the RDP protcol. When you use it, the user will be logged off.
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  • Tairu - tiling for EWMH-compliant window managers

    Since stiler and wumwum didn't work on my machine and i sometimes use fluxbox besides dwm, i created a simple bash script (and a small c-application that does nothing but waiting until a new window is created or destroyed), that brings dwm-like tiling to EWMH-compliant window managers.
    Features:
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    * tile-horizontal layout
    * maximized layout
    * daemon-mode
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    Dependencies:
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    Edit:
    AUR:
    http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37833
    Last edited by portix (2010-06-07 00:43:21)

    falconindy wrote:I think you may have forgotten something in your post...
    I think you are right

  • X11 and security

    Back in the "good 'ol days" (before internet crime became so prevalent) I used to set up X Windows on a host of different systems, run 1 X11 app on one machine and had it display on another, etc. etc. etc. (all that stuff that made X11 great).
    Nowadays I've heard of so many security "loopholes" with X11 that I'm almost afraid to run it. I'm a software developer but NOT a security expert (more like security dimwit). Our current cross platform development environment has some Windows XP systems, FreeBSD, Linux, Solaris, and of course, several OS X systems on it (ranging from Panther to Leopard). We use Cygwin on the Windoze machines FWIW.
    Back in the "good 'ol days" we used to use xhost+ to allow access to all machines, and copy files between systems using rcp. Nowadays, xhost+ is gone and we use scp or rsync for file transfer, and we don't even bother mapping the display of a program running on one system to the X display of another.
    My question is this: Is there a way that I can securely map a display from one system to another? Allow me to provide a scenario:
    1. I compile and test something on OS X, and it works.
    2. I now want to port, compile, and test it on one of the non-OS X systems, but instead of doing an scp or rsync of the code and then moving to the actual machine, I would like to copy the code over with scp or rsync and then map the display from the target machine to the OS X machine, but DO IT SECURELY.
    I know there are ways to do this via ssh, but they seem script/terminal oriented (or possibly I don't understand the process fully). What's the best and easiest way to run X11 AND remain secure?
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    Dear Bob,
    sorry if the format of this posting may not be correct (it is more of a personal request for help from help) but I need someone who is rather skilled on security and Windows to look into my note below.
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    I am a user, not a programmer, but I consider myself very proficient in troubleshooting anything with system 10.X but this one problem just reminds me of previous DOS XP intrusion by professional thieves.
    Am I supposed to have all these processes even if I am directly connected to a cable modem via router?
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    Free Memory: 1.46 GB
    Wired Memory: 139.80 MB
    Used Memory: 547.96 MB
    Inactive Memory: 33.05 MB
    Total VM: 32.91 GB
    Number of processes: 58
    ID Process Name User CPU RSIZE VSIZE
    0 kernel_task root 3.3 100.92 MB 156.52 MB
    1 launchd root 0.0 588.00 KB 18.65 MB
    10 kextd root 0.0 1.22 MB 586.16 MB
    11 notifyd root 0.0 484.00 KB 586.15 MB
    12 syslogd root 0.0 792.00 KB 587.61 MB
    14 ntpd root 0.0 872.00 KB 586.11 MB
    15 cron root 0.0 656.00 KB 586.66 MB
    16 update root 0.0 296.00 KB 585.54 MB
    17 SystemStarter root 0.0 680.00 KB 585.58 MB
    20 securityd root 0.0 1.63 MB 587.28 MB
    22 nfsd root 0.0 816.00 KB 590.73 MB
    23 mds root 0.0 22.52 MB 714.77 MB
    24 mDNSResponder _mdnsrespo 0.0 1.32 MB 587.47 MB
    25 loginwindow adamjweber 0.0 5.29 MB 753.53 MB
    26 KernelEventAgent root 0.0 660.00 KB 585.65 MB
    28 hidd root 0.0 608.00 KB 586.07 MB
    29 fseventsd root 0.0 1.20 MB 592.51 MB
    31 dynamic_pager root 0.0 620.00 KB 585.58 MB
    33 diskarbitrationd root 0.0 1.00 MB 585.67 MB
    34 DirectoryService root 0.0 3.34 MB 588.77 MB
    36 configd root 0.0 1.96 MB 587.17 MB
    39 autofsd root 0.0 688.00 KB 585.59 MB
    40 socketfilterfw root 0.0 1.52 MB 585.91 MB
    43 distnoted daemon 0.0 752.00 KB 585.56 MB
    46 coreservicesd root 0.0 17.39 MB 607.14 MB
    47 blued root 0.0 2.13 MB 28.23 MB
    52 rpc.lockd root 0.0 388.00 KB 585.65 MB
    54 rpc.statd root 0.0 368.00 KB 841.57 MB
    55 portmap daemon 0.0 372.00 KB 17.53 MB
    56 WindowServer _windowser 22.8 50.71 MB 259.15 MB
    57 rpc.lockd root 0.0 232.00 KB 585.66 MB
    58 rpc.rquotad root 0.0 372.00 KB 586.08 MB
    78 coreaudiod root 0.0 944.00 KB 586.25 MB
    82 qmasterd root 0.0 3.83 MB 602.01 MB
    83 qmasterd root 0.0 4.04 MB 602.08 MB
    86 diskimages-helpe root 0.2 3.05 MB 605.51 MB
    90 hdiejectd root 0.0 1.01 MB 585.60 MB
    97 launchd adamjweber 0.0 536.00 KB 17.65 MB
    102 Folder Actions Dispatcher adamjweber 0.0 2.79 MB 747.13 MB
    103 AirPort Base Station Agen adamjweber 0.0 2.96 MB 211.33 MB
    107 Spotlight adamjweber 0.0 6.04 MB 749.68 MB
    108 UserEventAgent adamjweber 0.0 2.02 MB 588.52 MB
    110 pboard adamjweber 0.0 592.00 KB 586.60 MB
    111 ATSServer adamjweber 0.0 4.42 MB 645.59 MB
    112 Dock adamjweber 0.0 15.17 MB 782.26 MB
    115 SystemUIServer adamjweber 0.0 13.68 MB 798.18 MB
    116 Finder adamjweber 0.0 61.76 MB 912.06 MB
    128 KUC adamjweber 0.0 5.93 MB 798.94 MB
    129 RealPlayer Downloader Age adamjweber 0.1 2.71 MB 747.29 MB
    130 RPDLAgentHelperD adamjweber 0.0 12.87 MB 590.25 MB
    134 iChatAgent adamjweber 0.0 2.68 MB 726.63 MB
    140 Firefox adamjweber 0.5 36.58 MB 850.14 MB
    165 mdworker nobody 0.0 2.86 MB 599.05 MB
    168 mdworker adamjweber 0.0 4.16 MB 632.46 MB
    220 Activity Monitor adamjweber 23.3 21.86 MB 857.06 MB
    221 pmTool root 2.2 1.37 MB 595.65 MB
    232 authorizationhos root 0.0 1.52 MB 596.75 MB
    233 SecurityAgent _securitya 0.0 8.58 MB 797.55 MB
    I truly thank Bob or anyone else in advance who can spot a definite intrusion, so that I can take care of this and with the authorities.
    Best regards,
    SMarescotti

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