XMP file missing

I've got a problem with a specific RAW file missing it's XMP data.
I had two images with the same name, one the CR2 and one a TIFF of the same file. When I deleted the TIFF from the library, Lightroom's "feature" thoughtfully also removed the XMP file.
Lightroom recognised that the XMP file was missing and warned me, however telling it to save metadata to file still didn't create a new XMP file. I then told Lightroom to "forget about this sidecar file", assuming this meant I could then recreate it. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case. I have changed develop settings etc and clicked save to file and it's still not creating the XMP file, all the changes are only stored in the Library.
Any suggestions? What can I do?
Thanks in advance,
James

I just did a test of deleting an .xmp file, and LR recreates the .xmp file, only after a change has been made to the file. I conclude that the other steps you took threw a wrench in the process.
If you want to be sure that this .xmp file is current, you can make an edit change (up exposure or anything, and return it) check the time stamp on the .xmp. You can also open in a text editor for specifics.

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Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 09:31:35 -0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: cant open xmp files in photoshop element 8
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