Zen Touch: How to edit multiple songs artists and genres at once with new firmwa

With the old firmware I was able to do that with Nomad Explorer. But with the V2 firmware, I cannot use the Nomad Explorer anymore, and Media Source Organizer only alows to edit one track at once. Zen Touch Explorer also does not allow me to do that.
I tried to use Windows Media Player 0 and it worked, but after I closed the program and started it again, all my edits at the Library were gone. If I edit the library and sync to my Zen Touch will it apply what I edited on the library or will it keep the original ID3 tag from the song? How to make the modification permanent to the MP3 ID3 tag on the PC?
I think creative should allow edition of multiple songs with Zen Touch Explorer on the same way Nomad Explorer used to do with firmware V.

I haven't seen a program which does batch editing for MTP devices. Real Player does allow you to edit the ID3 tags of songs on the player, but one at a time.
With most music programs when you change an ID tag on your computer it doesn't update on the player, so you would have to delete it from the player first then retransfer it, or find a program which edits the tags on the player such as Real Player.
The issue is most likely speed, it will take awhile to do batch editing on the player so that could be a reason why programs dont support it..

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I listen to lots of electronic music, and I'm a professional DJ.
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