Color Managment - Fireworks

My team and I need to use the same color red whenever we edit in Fireworks. 
1. Is there a way to set a default color, so that we don't have to keep picking it each time?
2. Also, we use boxes that must be the same size line and color.  We would like this to be a default, as well.

Here's the link to the Fireworks forum:
It's indeed difficult to find, as it is only in the long dropdown menu at the top of the forum index page:

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  • Cs4 color management?

    Does Fireworks CS4 support color management? IE, does it
    assume all colors are sRGB and use the monitor profile to correctly
    show sRBG colors?
    I'm hoping it has the same Color Settings as other adobe
    products or at least will use the monitor ICC profile that's set.
    Does anyone know?
    I have a wide gamut monitor and without color management
    support colors are way off. Of course, photoshop and illustrator
    and Firefox 3 all do color management so no problem there.

    Can you tell where are you changing the icc color profiles in
    PS and Ai?
    I usually work in sRGB in the Color Settings dialog. If I
    open a non-sRGB (like Adobe RGB) I usually Convert to sRGB in
    photoshop or ai.
    Also do you mean that the colors are coming correctly in
    Fireworks iwthout using the color profile set in Fireworks?
    No colors displayed in Fireworks are correct. Whether I open
    an sRGB tagged image or not (just tried both again), the colors are
    sent "raw" to the monitor and are not using my monitor profile.
    It's very easy to tell with a wide-gamut monitor because the reds
    and greens are cartoonish in Fireworks. But they are correct in
    photoshop and illustrator.
    How are you profiling your monitor and where are you setting
    that color profile?
    I use Gretag Eye-One display 2 to profile my monitor. Setting
    profile in c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color (windows xp)
    It's really unfortunate because clients like to see the
    actual colors we have chosen when we present a layout to them and
    I've been using Photoshop with a profiled monitor. I'm was hoping
    to use Fireworks but can't do graphic design in an app where all
    the colors are displayed incorrectly.
    I'm hoping Adobe will update Fireworks soon to address

  • Color Management in FW CS4?

    Seems I read an interesting article recently on the subject
    of color management in Illustrator and how its lacking in FW
    constitutes a major oversight and flaw in the application. Will cs4
    be implementing something in the way of AI? (Though certainky the
    latter program developed this in response to print media

    Linda Rathgeber wrote:
    > Paevo Kelley wrote:
    >> Seems I read an interesting article recently on the
    subject of color
    >> management in Illustrator and how its lacking in FW
    constitutes a
    >> major oversight and flaw in the application.
    > I disagree with that. Since browsers cannot read color
    profiles, and
    > Fireworks was developed specifically for Web graphics,
    then color
    > management would be kind of pointless.
    It's not even a question of browsers understanding color
    profiles. How
    many users out there calibrate and balance their monitors?
    profiles are great for a controlled reproduction process like
    printing. But that's the key - it's a monitored and
    environment. We have no control over the user's monitor
    Now if the concern is how FW handles the color of a file that
    is in
    another color mode (CMYK or LAB for example), the new FW beta
    seems to
    be handling color better. It still converts them to RGB.
    There is still
    a difference in a CMYK file opened in FW (seems to be mostly
    saturation and contrast), when compared with the same file in
    PS, but
    the LAB file I tested seemed pretty darn close in both app's,
    if not
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  • Vista color management & CS3

    Two weeks ago I wrongly faulted my new Dell 2707WFP monitor for its high contrast and saturation after many failed profiling attempts using the Spyder2Pro with the updated Vista software. I'm still at a loss as to why images are dark and overly saturated in Photoshop, Bridge and Lightroom. They were all fine on an older Dell system running XP home and CS2. I've gone so far as to purposely inflict various gamma curve settings in Spyder to bump up the low end luminance but resulting profiles still show images clipped in the low end and overall saturated even as the desktop and the PS interface turn a sickly pale.
    I'm new to CS3 and Lightroom and so I'm not sure if the following is normal. When I view a NEW batch of images that were not previously viewed in Bridge, they are normal looking, however when I click on a thumbnail, it then reverts to the same garish contrasty version that I see full size in the above adobe software when opened. The same thing happens in the WINDOWS PHOTO GALLERY viewer but NOT in WINDOWS EXPLORER. In Explorer the thumbs are as they should be...normal, and if I open them in Microsoft OFFICE PICTURE MANAGER or in Quicktime PICTUREVIEWER, they open as normal images.
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    Other notes:
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    Found this on the DATACOLOR site in their SUPPORT CENTER:
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    Solution >>I just purchased a Dell 2407 HC display, considered wide gamut and the spyder 3 elite. I've used the spyder 3 to calibrate the monitor. In photoshop whenever I "Save for Web" or "Save as" in the sRGB color space, I wind up with over saturated oranges and reds. I'm needing to save in the sRGB for web work. My working color space is set to sRGB which looks fine when editting in photoshop, but as soon as I save it out of photoshop the reds and oranges are over saturated. I purchased the spyder 3 because of the wide gamut support, is there something I'm missing in calibration?
    The display profile is not at fault here. The ICC profile for the display tells any application that uses color management what the color values for the display are. Thus Photoshop, which is using the profile, corrects for the colors on screen, giving correct results. A non-color managed application (such as Internet Explorer for Windows) would not use the profile and thus the colors would be oversaturated on your wide gamut screen. This is not the fault of the profile (that would make the color look wrong in Photoshop, where the profile is being used), but the lack of a profile (which makes the color look wrong in non-color managed applications).
    This is the problem with using a Wide Gamut display for viewing in non-color managed applications. A typical gamut display is not color correct in such applications, but is at least approximately correct; a wide gamut display is noticably oversatured in some colors. On the Mac many applications, including web browsers and OS utilities, are color managed, so it is less of an issue than on Windows.
    Article Details
    Article ID: 723
    Created On: 10 Jan 2008 07:31 PM
    So if the color is off outside PS, then its not the fault of the profile. My problem is the image is off INSIDE PS, and by the same reasoning, then the profile is at fault. If the profile is to blame, is this a Spyder issue or Vista issue? So far noone seems to know anything including Adobe tech support and Dell. Been waiting 2 wks to hear from the Spyder people.
    Would really appreciate some input on this. thanks.

  • Printing with HP B9180 and Photoshop Elements 8 and Color Management

     I've got a bit of confusion about certain settings in the printing process and I've posted a rather long discussion of my 'issues' and confusion.  I hope someone can give me some guidance here.  I've seen a lot of these issues addressed in many places but I can't seem to find an integrated response.  Thanks to anyone who takes the time to read and respond.
    Color Management Questions
    My problems started when I was getting pictures that were too dark from my HP 9180 printer after having gotten very nice prints for a long time.  I had obviously started to do something differently inadvertently.  The only thing I think that is different is that I got a new 23 inch monitor, which does produce much brighter on-screen images.  So, I started to do some research and know just enough about color management to be slightly confused and have some questions that I hope someone can give me some help with.
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    My printer is an HP Photosmart Pro B9180 Printer, where there are also a variety of settings possible.
    I’m running XP-Pro.
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    Everything I have read about color management (various web sites, forums, books, etc) says to have the image, monitor, and printer all in the same color space.
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    I am taking pictures in sRGB, and telling PSE 8 to process them in RGB by selecting ‘Always Optimize for Printing’.  Is this something I should be concerned about?  Should I reset my camera for RGB?
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    I understand that this is the image space of the image I took with my camera and that information is embedded in the image.  Correct?
    Next, there is Printer Profile.  But, from what I have read, this is where the IEC profile of the paper being printed on is supposed to be selected, isn’t it? 
    Shouldn’t this more appropriately be called Paper Profile, or Printing Media Profile?  Further, this drop down menu appears to be somewhat erratic, sometimes showing all of the paper profiles I believe are loaded, sometimes not. It also shows listings such as Working RGB-Adobe RGB (1988), Adobe RGB 1988, Dot Gain 10%, 15%.... along with a lot of paper profiles.  Aren’t those profiles unnecessary here?
    I’ve used both Relative Colorimetric and Perceptual Rendering and am happy with either one. 
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    Is there any time when I should use either ColorSmart/sRGB or Adobe RGB  (1988)?  If I were staying with my camera’s sRGB setting, given the fact that the monitor is sRGB, would the appropriate selections be ‘Printer Manages Colors’ and ‘ColorSmart/sRGB’?
    Finally, under the Features Tab, I go to look for the same paper I selected under Printer Profile (Question 4 above).  If it is one of the pre-loaded (by HP) profiles, it is there, but if it is a profile I downloaded, say for an Ilford paper, it isn’t listed, and I need to guess at an equivalent type of paper to select.
    Is there any way to get that listing to appear under the Paper Type drop down menu?
    I know that this is a long post, but it helped me to clarify my ‘issues’.  Thank you for any and all suggestions, answers, guidance and help.

    Some printers have long names, esp. HP printers, and PSE gets ":confused." In control panel>devices and printers, right click on the default printer, go to printer properties, and rename the default printer to something short, e.g. "Our Printer." That may fix it..

  • How do I get color management options in PSE9?

    I have been trying to print pictures on an HP printer and when I do they come out fairly red and pink.  When I go under more options under printing and select color management the only option that I have to adjust is print space.  I have a PSE9 book which shows that I should have color highlighting, image space, rendering intent as options but they do not appear.  I have tried many different solutions but nothing has helped, same results.  My file formats are in RAW but I also tried JPEG which ended with the same result.  I was thinking of reinstalling the software but wasn't sure if I would lose all of my files.

    TXGB Packer a écrit:
    Sorry, I meant color handling.  However this is the screen that I was talking about.  The only option that mine shows is image space.  I want to know how to get the rest of this information to show up.  I believe once I get this fixed I should be able to make prints with the correct color balance.
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  • Confused about Color Management in CS5 (Photos appearing differently in all other programs)

    I recently noticed this and it's been driving me crazy; when I view photos in Photoshop CS5 they appear significantly lighter/more washed out than when viewed in other programs like Zoombrowser, Digital Photo Professional or just in a regular Windows folder using Filmstrip mode (Windows XP).  When opening the same photo in both CS5 and Zoombrowser and switching back and forth between the two windows the difference is very apparent...for example, one of the photos I compared was of a person in a black shirt -- in CS5 (lighter/washed out) the folds in the shirt were very obvious, but in Zoombrowser (darker, more contrast/saturation) the folds were nearly invisible and it looked like just solid black.  Now, after messing around with the settings in both Photoshop and in Zoombrowser I've found a few ways to get the photos to look the same in the two programs; one way gives them both the lighter/more washed out appearance and another way gives them both the darker appearance with more contrast and saturation.  My problem is that I'm not sure which view is accurate.
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    Sorry for the late reply;
    But before we go there or make any assumptions, it's important for
    you to determine whether you're seeing consistent color in your
    color-managed applications and only inconsistent color in those that are
    not color-managed.  For that you'll need to do a little research to see
    if the applications in which you're seeing darker colors have
    color-management capability (and whether it is enabled).
    I opened the same picture in 7 different applications and found that the 6 of the 7 displayed the photo equally dark with equally high contrast when compared to the 7th application (CS5).  The other 6 applications were Zoombrowser EX, Digital Photo Professional, Windows Picture and Fax Viewer, Quicktime PictureViewer, Microsoft Office Picture Manager and Firefox.
    However, at least two of these programs offer color management preferences and, when used, display the photo (from what I can tell) exactly the same as Photoshop CS5's default settings.  The two programs are two Canon programs: Zoombrowser EX and Digital Photo Professional.  Here's the setting that needs to be selected in Zoombrowser in order to match up with CS5 (circled in red):
    And here's the setting in Digital Photo Professional that needs to be selected in order to match up with CS5 (again, circled in red):
    *Note: When the option above "Monitor Profile" is selected ("Use the OS settings") the image is displayed exactly the same as when the monitor profile is selected.  It's only when sRGB is selected that it goes back to the default darker, more contrasty version.
    So with the red-circled options selected, all three programs (CS5, ZB, DPP) display the images the same way; lighter and more washed out.  What I'm still having trouble understanding is if that ligher, more washed out display is the accurate one or not...I've read several tutorials for all three programs which only make things more confusing.  One of the tutorials says to always use sRGB if you want accurate results and *never* to use Monitor Profile and another says that, if you're using a calibrated monitor, you should always select Monitor Profile under the color management I'm still lost, unfortunately.
    What I also don't understand is why, when the monitor profile is selected in CS5, the image is displayed in the dark and contrasty way that the other programs display it as by default but when the monitor profile is selected in Digitial Photo Professional it displays it in the lighter, more washed out way that CS5 displays it using CS5's default settings (sRGB).  Why would selecting the monitor profile in DPP display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in Photoshop?  And vice versa...why would selecting the monitor profile in Photoshop display the photo the same way as when sRGB is selected in DPP?
    I feel like I'm missing something obvious here...which I probably am.  Again, I'm very new to this stuff so pardon my ignorance on the topic.
    By the way, I find that the way that the non-color managed programs (Windows Picture and Fax Viewer et al.) display the photos is more aesthetically pleasing to the eye than the duller, more washed out display that CS5 gives the photos, but ultimately what I want to see in these programs (especially PS5 where I'll be doing the editing) is the accurate representation of the actual photo itself...i.e. what it's supposed to look like and not a darker (or lighter) variant of it.
    So just to reiterate my questions:
    Why does selecting Monitor Profile under the color management settings in DPP give the same display results as the default sRGB profile in CS5 and vice versa?  (CS5 with monitor profile selected having the same display results as DPP with the sRGB profile selected)
    When using CS5 with it's default color management settings (sRGB), using DPP with the Monitor Profile selected, and using Zoombrowser EX with "Adjust color of images using monitor profile" selected this results in all three programs displaying the same lighter, washed-out this lighter, more washed-out display of the images shown in these three programs the accurate one?
    I noticed when opening an image in Firefox it had the same darker, contrasty look as the other non-color managed applications had.  Assuming that the CS5 default settings are accurate, does this mean that if I edit a photo in CS5, save it, and upload it to the internet that other people who are viewing that image online will see it differently than how it's supposed to look (i.e. in a non-color-managed way?)  If so, this would seem to indicate that they'd see a less-than-flattering version of the photo since if their browser naturally displays images as darker and more contrasty and I added more darkness and contrast to the image in CS5, they'd be seeing a version of the photo that's far too dark and probably wouldn't look very good.  Is this something I have to worry about as well?
    I apologize for the lengthy post; I do tend to be a bit OCD about these's a habit I picked up once I realized I'd been improperly editing photos on an  incorrectly calibrated monitor for years and all that time and effort had been spent editing photos in a certain way that looked good on my incorrectly calibrated monitor but looked like crap on everyone else's screen, so the length and detail of this post comes from a desire to not repeat similar mistakes by editing photos the wrong way all over again.  Again, thanks in advance for all the help, it's greatly appreciated!

  • Color Management

    Though color management is very important when using Photoshop some aspects of it though is a waste of money for me.  You see I'm like 10% of the men is the world am a little colorblind. This does not mean I do not see colors I see color quite well.  Perhaps my color world is a more pleasing one then yours.  I only calibrate my displays using web test pages and software tools. Perfect color on a screen has little value for me. People also have different taste when it comes to color when it comes for images many prefer over saturation then true life like looking images.  Even when it come to black and white images.  I have even heard people criticise Ansel Adams image as not being right. Ansel of course was creating art not mer real look pictures. Most of us have see Ansel Adams's images in books and print.  If you have not seen a print made by Adams's himself you have not seen what he is famous for.
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    Hi craigpop1,
    So we can better assist you, please let us know what operating system is on your computer (version of Windows or Mac OS X), as well as what type of paper you are planning to print on.  
    If this is a time-sensitive matter, additional support options are available at Contact Us.
    Did this answer your question? Please click the Accept as Solution button so that others may find the answer as well.

  • Color management in Save for Web not working

    The Save for Web dialog box in the CS6 Beta is ignoring color profiles, so color is not managed. This has not been a problem in previous versions.

    The saved output is just fine. I was referring to the images in the Save for Web dialogue
    I just checked my settings. CS6 apparently changed my Preview setting from "Use Document Profile" to "Monitor Color." It also changed my Metadata setting. It should not do that!
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    I'm on a wide-gamut monitor, so sRGB images come out looking garish if there's no color profile embedded or it's ignored. That's what's happening here with the Original image in Save for Web. I imported an sRGB image with profile embedded, and it looks just fine in Photoshop while editing. Then I went to Save for Web, with the settings Embed Color Profile, Convert to sRGB, and Preview: Use Document Profile. The JPEG preview too looks just fine with these settings, but the Original looks garish, showing a lack of color management. The color in the two views is showing as completely different, though they both represent the same image with the same color profile embedded.
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  • Need help with color management

    I am looking for someone to help me.  Please!
    I am looking for help with Photoshop/printer not printing correct colors.
    I have: Windows 7, Photoshop CS5, Photoshop Elements, HP Pavillion Laptop, new Okidata C530dn color laser printer
    Previously I had a Canon Pixma MP620 and a gentleman from another forum gave me the correct settings for printing on photo paper and colors were perfect.  I now have a OKIdata C530dn color laser and have started a business printing business cards and greeting cards, etc., and I do advertisements on a freelance basis.
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    I have tried every setting variation that I can think of to get the color correct with my new OKIdata.  I have to get the colors correct or my new business will go under because I can't match colors for my customers.  I am a self taught Photoshoper and a novice so please bear with me.
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    sRGB 2.1
    U.S. Web Coated Swop v2
    Dot gain 20 %
    Dot gain 20 %
    Preserve embeded profile
    Preserve embeded profile
    Preserve embeded profile
    engine: Adobe (ACE)
    Relative Colormetric
    Tried RGB color mode and CMYK color mode, no difference
    Printer settings:
    Photoshop manages colors
    sRGB 2.1 Printer profile
    Relative Colormetric
    Print setup:
    Multipurpose tray
    Weight: printer settings-default  (when I used heavy setting for cardstock it printed green instead of the color light blue, so that was a start to the right color)
    Job Options:
    Hight Quality
    Color: No color matching
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    Device: Display 1 generic PnP monitor AMD M88og with ATI Mobility Radeon HD4200
    ICC Profiles: Generic PnP Monitor (default)
    Windows Color System Defaults:
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    Tried printing in PSE and it gave me an error that it was not a post script printer.  Installed ps driver, still getting errors and it wouldn't print.
    I would appreciate any help you could give me before I run out of toner and have to buy the expensive toners, or just slit my wrists j/k  LOL
    Thanks!  JS

    You need an ICC profile for your printer.  Chromix has an excellent service at which will do this calibration for you.  You download some software they provide, then print a test file on the exact same paper you are using for your cards.  Then send the output to them and they will calibrate the colors with their equipment and send you the ICC profile file.  Once you have it, you'll be able to print accurate colors.
    There are other services out there that may cost less, but I do not know how reputable they are.  Chromix is a good business I've worked with many times.
    If you are trying to run a business and you don't understand color management yet, you may be in for a lot of trouble.  Please get the book "Real World Color Management" available at and it will save you a ton of money and headaches.

  • Is there a way to force color management ON in Flash Player 10

    Here's my problem:
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    with a wide gamut display, it is very important to have web
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    unmanaged colors get displayed horribly wrong.
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    rendering and this makes it impossible to view web pages that
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    The website may alter its page display based on the browser ID that is transmitted to the site from your browser. Some browsers on the iPad like iCab allow you change the browser ID to something desktop-oriented. Safari does not provide this capability.

  • How to print with NO COLOR MANAGEMENT in Photoshop CS6

    I have been trying to print a target from i1Profiler so I can read it with my i1Pro and create a printer profile, but no matter what I do, there is no way to get photoshop from supplying a profile while printing. I tried to select Printer handles color and then put the printer driver in COLOR MANAGEMENT OFF (seemed to me this would disable both the printer managing color and photosbop managing color). Tried printing this way ( and many other ways) but NO SOLUTION --- the prints are EXTREMELY different from the on-screen view (which is in a properly profiled Apple monitor) and they actually look like the ones with a profile chosen.
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    [email protected] wrote:
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  • Suspected Flaw in Firefox 35 Color Management Behavior

    I hope I can keep this concise, but bear with me if my confusion causes me to include some extraneous info. The info below is what I think is required for someone else to fully understand the issue.
    - NECPA271W wide gamut monitor in dual monitor setup with a standard gamut Samsung 245BW
    - Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
    - Nvidia Quadro K4000
    - Latest versions of FireFox (v35 32-bit), IE11 (11.0.9600.17498 updated to 11.0.15 32-bit) & Avant (Ultimate 2015 build 7, in use for testing because it incorporates the rendering engines of 3 major browsers, IE v 11.0.9600.17496, FireFox v 34.05.5464, & Chrome v39.0.2172.95)
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    - I've lately started selling some of my photography on a fine art website.  As a result I started digging deeper into how those images are viewed by others & subsequently printed. Images optimized in sRGB for the best possible display results across a widely varied viewer base are not going to give the same results as images that are soft-proofed and optimized for specific media/printer/ink combinations. This is especially true of my images which tend to lean in the direction of being more heavily saturated & wider gamut
    - I've been exhaustively over the info here COLOR MANAGEMENT PHOTOSHOP CC CS6 Basic ColorManagement Theory ICC Profiles Color Spaces Calibrated Monitor Professional… & here  among many others.
    I had reached a point where I thought I understood things pretty well, but now I'm not so sure again Here's the problem:
    I followed the guidance and info on how to set FireFox for FULL color management  (value 1 with associated monitor profile) that allows the handling of non-tagged images and web page elements, Upon restarting Firefox with the updated configuration, I return to the test at  The last two tests there are designed to show a) how much wider your display gamut is than sRGB, and b) how the browser handles untagged images and elements.
    The behavior I observe is different from the behavior I expect! Specifically, setting FIrefox to color management value 1 and telling it my monitor profile causes Firefox to display the sRGB tagged images as if they were not tagged. With the default value 2/no monitor profile, I can see a difference between the display of sRGB tagged images and either the ProPhoto RGB tagged image or the untagged sRBG & untagged CSS elements. I would expect that the change to value 1 with monitor profile should have no impact on the display of tagged images and elements, and yet that switch ONLY causes a  change in the display behavior of the tagged images it shouldn't have affected, and I can no longer see a difference between the various images because everything is fully saturated
    A marked up screen capture showing the comparative behaviors between the various applications and browsers would probably be worth more than the proverbial 1000 words, I'm new here & haven't figured that part out yet, but will post this as is while I work on that.
    Can anybody replicate the behavior I observe? Is anybody spotting an error in my thinking?
    *EDIT - I have annotated a screen shot comparing the results across 4 browsers. The screenshot has an embedded Adobe RGB profile which best represents the effects & changes that I was/am seeing but may not be preserved if posted here. It may be best to download and view in CS6 so as to not introduce any additional confusion arising from which browser YOU may be using :-) If needed the full res 2560x1440 version is available, but scaling to meet the forum limits of 900x900 makes the text unreadable. Can anyone suggest a means of supplying the full res file with the embedded profile retained?

    twenty_one wrote:
    Firefox will use the profile for the main display. It does not support a dual monitor setup. If you move FF to the secondary display, it will still use the primary display's profile.
    There is a Firefox Add-On called Profile Switcher that allows using multiple monitor profiles. You will need to setup a Firefox user profile for each monitor:
    After installing Profile Switcher Add-On you will find a new entry in the FF File menu 'Open Profile Manager,' which can be used to create and manage the new user profiles (see screenshots below).
    You can then setup a Firefox Sync account to keep the user profiles synchronized or do this manually using Copy & Paste. I was concerned that Firefox Sync would over-write the configuration data for the monitor profile, but it doesn't. I leave 'gfx.color_management.display_profile' blank on the user profile for the primary NEC 272W monitor, and add the path for the monitor profile on the user profile for my standard gamut secondary display. Here's what I see when launching FF:
    After installing the Profile Switcher Add-On you'll see two new entries in the FF File menu that allow you to manage and launch other FF user profiles as separate browser instances.
    It works fine on my Windows 7 system and should also work on Mac OS X systems and Windows 8.x.

  • Color management in Illustrator CS6 and InDesign CS 6-settings & workflow questions.

    I've read the color management posts and the Adobe help file regarding the Pantone + libraries and the new differences between CS5 & 6. However I'm still a bit confused as to just what my settings should be, and a few posts offer different pieces of advice, so I'm looking for clarification. I don't need to work with legacy CS files, so I don't want to swap out the old Pantone libraries for the Plus ones. However I still have my old Pantone Solid, Coated and Uncoated swatchbooks and until I can afford the new Plus swatchbooks, I'll depend on those. I'm hoping the difference between Pantone 321U and Pantone+ 321 is not great.
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    2. In the View menu, should I select Overprint Preview to get a (more or less-I know the drill) closer monitor color to what will be printed.
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    When I can afford it, should I opt for the Pantone+ Coated and Uncoated swatchbooks, or the Color Bridge? I'm usure of the difference, and if there are any Illustrator or InDesign settings that would need to be changed depending.
    As a corollary to this questions, once the settings are OK in Illustrator, what do they need to be in InDesign? There are settings for Ink Manager (all spots to process or use standard LAB values for spots, the Color palette has check options for LAB, CMYK, RGB.
    I'm not  sure what needs to be set in InDesign to make sure colors are consistent between what is set in Illustrator and then what InDesign does.

    Let me try to help you further:
    1. In Illustrator's Swatch settings pallette, should the Spot Color Mode option be set to use:
    a. CMYK
    b. LAB
    c. Book Color (not sure if this refers to the pantone swatchbook)
    - I would use "c" - Book Color.  This is the file going to the printer which will use Spot Color on press.  For a copy of the file to be output by your Canon, use "a" - CMYK.
    2. In the View menu should Overprint Preview be checked, and why, and would it differ based on the settings for #1.
    - Only if the color was transparent ( which it isn't ) would overprint preview be of any use or you use a tint value of the Spot color and a black, but even then you may not be able to detect any change in the screen view.  I typically do not use any overprint preview and I do not rely on the monitor for any color deisions.  You could be different and that is OK.  Let me know if you are able to detect any deviates using overprint preview.
    I'm sorry for being a little short.  There is a lot of confusion about these issues and Adobe and Pantone are not making things any easier.
    The key is your Canon will not be able to print accurate Spot color without a RIP for the necessary color tables and conversions for that particular printer.  In your case, it will be necessary to build a CMYK file to print a somewhat  approximate representation of that specific Spot color.  Another frustrating part of this matrix is CMYK cannot match all Pantone Spot Colors.

  • Safari's Color Management Policies

    Hello, I'm a graphic designer from Germany. I've encountered that Safari can handle color management, which is indeed quite up to date. But Safari always assumes that untagged RGB image data has to be translated with the "Generic RGB"-profile (Apple's system profile, right?) instead of sRGB - the official standard color-profile in the web.
    Well, that's not a problem at all if every image has a sRGB profile attached. But the only practical web file format handling ICC is the JPEG (PNG works also but is a bit difficult to use thanks to the png-internal gamma "correction" and his chunk of a sRGB-profile). As a result, I'm limited to the JPEG. But the real problem is not only Safari: Macromedia Flash data isn't color managed too, and there is NO WAY of importing images with color-profiles into a Flash movie. Additionally, no browser (except IE5 for Mac) bothers about color management.
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    First, I only use JPEGs and maybe PNGs with color profiles. Firefox for Mac won't care, but at least Safari can translate colors.
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    My question is, does Apple plan to change Safari's color management policies to a standard sRGB environment or do I really have to see Flash pages an the like a bit lighter than it is intended to be? What is the best way to handle my images? Attach profiles or leave it untagged, so that Windows users (sRGB) will see it correctly and Mac users a bit lighter?
    Thanks for any answers that will come! Greetings, Peter.
    iMac 17" Intel   Mac OS X (10.4.6)  

    Welcome to Apple Discussions
    Good questions about rendering color on the web. Not being technically savvy when it comes to this type of thing, I'll leave the technical questions for others more versed in web design.
    Suggestions to Apple for future versions of their OS and software can be made here.
    iMac G5 Rev C 20" 2.5gb RAM 250 gb HD/iBook G4 1.33 ghz 1.5gb RAM 40 gb HD   Mac OS X (10.4.6)   LaCie 160gb d2 HD Canon i960 printer

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