Controlling area & operating concern must have same fiscal year variant

Dear Experts,
Whether i can assign two controlling area with different fiscal year variant to one operating concern.
Getting error 'Controlling area & operating concern must have same fiscal year variant'
Fiscal year variant must be same or Number of posting period must be same.
regards
RR
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Hi ajay,
I did the testing also,
System is showing error msg' Controlling area & operating concern must have same fiscal year variant'
But someone told me. number of Posting period must be same not fiscal year variant.That why i am confused.
I assigned all company code same posting period variant in different controlling area.Still facing same error.
That why i have posted in SDN.
regards
RR

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I have a Company code with FYV "A1" with 12 Periods (Apr - Mar) - Fiscal year start at Apr-01 and ends Mar-31 of the next year.
I have another company code with FYV "B1" with 12 Periods (Jan-Dec). - Fiscal year start at Jan-01 and ends Dec-31.
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When I try to assign the company codes, I got the following warning message.
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Message no. KT297
Diagnosis
Fiscal year variant A1, controlling area 1000, does not agree with fiscal year variant B1, company code 5001.
The following entries must agree:
- Same number of posting periods (the number of special periods may vary)
- Same period limits
Procedure
Ensure that the fiscal year variants of the controlling area and the assigned company codes agree. If necessary, maintain the fiscal year variants.
1. What is the meaning of "Same period limits"?
2. Does it mean the fiscal year start and end date must be same?
3. What is the impact of the warning message?
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Having same fiscal year variant is one of the requirements for different company codes to be under one controlling area.
The FYV for the company codes and the controlling area can have a different number of special periods. The number of posting periods must be the same.
Impact of warning message: You cannot create one controlling area for both company codes (1:n assignment).
If you like, you can create one controlling area for one compnay code with FYV A1 and another controlling area for another company code with FYV B1.
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I have three company codes in three three different countries: 1000 (ABC India), 2000 (ABC Inc, US), 3000 (ABC Dubai)
But our consultants have assigned only one fiscal year variant V3 and one controlling area 1000 (with fiscal year variant v3)
So what problem one may face because of above settings and what is ideal setting for such scenario
Edited by: Meenu_ND on Oct 18, 2010 2:35 PM

I have one leading ledger and two non leading ledger (i.e Group ledger and IFRS ledger). But Fiscal year variant is not mentioned for both the non leading ledgers.
So i think it will take V3 only for non leading ledgers too.
And in your solution, since India is main company, fiscal year variant for leading ledger needs to be V3 only.
What if i keep non leading ledger as fiscal year from Jan to Dec. Then it will be:
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Controlling area & operating concern

hi all,
1may i know what is controlling area.
2may i know what is operating concern.
thanks

Hi,
Controlling area is an umbrella under which several reports are generated for internal purposes.
Controlling is a function which supports the business analysis and management decision making process
Check the link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/02/30793485231774e10000009b38f83b/frameset.htm
What are Controlling component, Controlling area component code?
An operating concern represents an organizational unit in your company for which the sales market has a uniform structure. It is the valuation level for Profitability Analysis (CO-PA).
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/7a/4c38814a0111d1894c0000e829fbbd/content.htm
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Diffrent Fiscal year Variant ?

Hello Friends
For the different company codes using the same controlling area must have same fiscal year variant.
But in my scenario 1 company code having period from jan to dec and another having period from April to march
Pls suggest me how we can do that?If not is there any otherway of solving this issue?
I need your suggestions
Thanks
Anup

Hi,
the best documentation is the <a href="http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_02/helpdata/en/da/6ada3889432f48e10000000a114084/frameset.htm">online documentation at help.sap.com</a>
From your point of view, the most important things are:
1. Define a table group in transaction GCIN. Include all fields in object table 1 that you want to report on (with the different fiscal year variant). If this is a legal requirement as I suppose, then you probably only need the GL account (RACCT) field. You may require other fields as well, depending on your requirements.
2. After the table group is defined, you have to check and install it. Installation means here the new table group is added to the Special Ledger environment, i.e., it is added to many customizing tables + lots of standard ABAP code is regenerated.
3. Now you can create a ledger for your new summary table (this is one of the 4 or 5 tables in your new table group). in transaction GCL1. You should assign the company code where the alternate fiscal year variant must be used to the new ledger. Obviously, you should change the fiscal year variant in the assignment screen to the alternate one (the default would be tha FYV that you have assigned to your company code in OBY6 , this is the controlling area's FYV as well).
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5. Save your work.
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Folks,
We have 2 company codes 1000 and 1010 both are assigned to controlling area 2000. I want to know what are the impacts of assigning company 1000 and 1010 to different fiscal year variants. I get this warning message when i try to save.
Please advice if this is advisable to do? and what are the impacts.
Message no. KT297
Diagnosis
Fiscal year variant K4, controlling area 2000, does not agree with fiscal year variant V9, company code 1010.
The following entries must agree:
Same number of posting periods (the number of special periods may vary)
Same period limits
Procedure
Ensure that the fiscal year variants of the controlling area and the assigned company codes agree. If necessary, maintain the fiscal year variants.

Dear Zaid Azam,
you have assigned 1000 and 1010 to one controlling area 2000,
To assign more than one company code to one controlling area the below are conditions
1) The Operative fiscal year variants in the company codes must match the fiscal year variant in controlling area.
2) The company codes must use the same chart of accounts.
So if you are assigning other fiscal year variant where the number of posting periods are different, hece system giving an error.
Thanks and Regards
A.Rama Krishna

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Hi all,
i am geting below message when i am doing KP06 for cost center planning
Ledger 0 has fiscal year variant instead of V3
Message no. GI174
Diagnosis
When transferring planning data, the receiver ledgers must have the same fiscal year variant as the sender system, since all planned periods are transferred and not just one period with a posting date. Therefore, the period cannot be converted.
Procedure
Compare the fiscal year variant of the sender system with the FI-SL fiscal year variant.
You can access this in FI-SL Customizing by choosing Basic Settings Master Data -> Ledger (select the ledger specified in this message) -> Assign Comp.Cd/Comp. -> After selecting the company code, the system displays the assigned fiscal year variant.
Kindly do the needful.
Regards,
TDK

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Hope this will workout for you
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Edited by: Prasad Yarra on Nov 5, 2009 10:17 PM
Edited by: Prasad Yarra on Nov 5, 2009 10:54 PM

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Edited by: Nick Bertz on Dec 3, 2009 3:17 PM

Hello,
Okay here is one thing that i have run across that i do not understand. I am using Offsets in a query. Everything works fine with regards to these offsets, except for when i introduce 2 Fiscal Year Variants.
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Diagnosis
Variable ZS_FPER2 contains a fiscal year period which is to be moved by 10 periods. Before this can occur, the fiscal year variant must first be specified clearly so that the number of periods in the fiscal year can be determined.
System Response
Procedure
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Procedure for System Administration
Notification Number BRAIN 618
Thanks,
Nick
Edited by: Nick Bertz on Dec 29, 2009 4:15 PM

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regards
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Note 1175751 - Project solution for alternative fiscal year variant
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