External Monitoring - HD Footage, NTSC Monitor

My husband and I are having a issue and have pulled out our hair trying to figure it out.
Using voltaicHD we got the AVCHD footage into Final Cut Express 4 (on G5)...
We've got it in the appropriate timeline for editing.
However, we aren't getting a signal out to our external monitors...
Setup is this... We go via FireWire to a JVC miniDV/DVD deck (sr-dvm700), which is then connected to a samsung LCD tv via component cables (hdd/DVD) and s-video (miniDV)... BNC cable goes from deck to broadcast safe monitor (JVC tm-h150). This all works fine with sequence set for DV-NTSC (720x480).
however, with sequence set for HD... If we go through Easy Setup on Final Cut Express and select DV-NTSC we are not getting any signal... This is with the sequence set to Apple Intermediate Codec 720/30.
In the Easy Setup drop down, if we select HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 720/30 we still get no output. When we select it, it tells us to set device control to HDV-NTSC but we cannot figure out where to change that.
What are we missing? How do we get this to work. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Well after researching and researching, I set up the computer with the HDTV as a 2nd monitor. Using the Cinema Preview (Fullscreen) function, I can see the video we're editing on the fullscreen Samsung HDTV.
DVI-to-HDMI adaptor was the solution.
I realize this may not be the best solution for color correction, but it IS a solution for now... and one that is affordable. Where I finally got the tip that got me off in the right direction was from a guy on YouTube...
Frank's Tech Help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMNLOVn8hes
It wasn't the exact solution for me - but got me started in the right direction.
The G5 I have has the GEForce 5200 Ultra card, which has a DVI and ADC connector.
I used a DVI-to-HDMI adaptor to go to the HDTV.
I used and ADC-to-DVI adaptor to connect to my LCD monitor (what was originally hooked up to the computer).
Then in the settings for Displays, I set the resolution and arrangement of the monitors. By dragging the menu bar from the TV Display to the Monitor (in the arrangement dialog) it set the LCD Display as monitor #1.
Now, in Final Cut Express, all I need to do is go to View... Video Out... Cinema Preview (Fullscreen) and in addition to my timeline playing on the canvas, it plays in full screen HD on the Samsung HDTV.
While no one here gave me the answer, maybe my reply will give the answer to someone else who isn't ready to spend the money on Final Cut Pro (since this isn't the FCP Forum) and an expensive IO Card.

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Good Day All,
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I have a JVC tape deck, I forgot the model, and a SONY TV(forgot the model).
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Shane's Stock Answer #8: External Monitor Viewing
If you are working with DV, this is simple. First connect your computer to a camera or deck via firewire, Then connect the camera/deck to your TV/Monitor via RCA or S-Video.
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Go to the View Menu, choose > External video > all frames
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VIEW>Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section.
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#25 HDV external Monitor Viewing
Shane's Stock Answer #25 - HDV external Monitor Viewing
To view HDV on an external monitor in high definition you are going to need to purchase a capture card, like the ones Decklink (www.decklink.com) or AJA (www.aja.com) offer. They will both play out HDV in real time. The catch is that you cannot view this on a regular TV or NTSC monitor. Since this is HD, an HD monitor will be needed. HOWEVER, both cards are capable of down converting the signal so that it can be displayed on an SD monitor. This won't be color accurate
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#8 External Monitor Viewing.
Shane's Stock Answer #8:
A simple path is mac > firewire > camera or deck > rca cables > tv
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Then go View > External video > all frames
Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
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2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
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5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
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Shane's Stock Answer #8: External Monitor Viewing
If you are working with DV, this is simple. First connect your computer to a camera or deck via firewire, Then connect the camera/deck to your TV/Monitor via RCA or S-Video.
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Go to the View Menu, choose > External video > all frames
VIEW>Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
VIEW>Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section.
If you are working with HDV footage, FCP 6 allows you to view this via firewire, but ONLY as downconverted DV. It won't look the best, but you can see it. To do this,
If you need to view any format other than DV at full resolution, then you need to look into capture cards. Several standard definition and high definition models are available from www.aja.com and www.decklink.com. With these options you'll need a proper monitor to view full broadcast colors, but all models allow for realtime standard definition downconvert, allowing you to view HD on an SD monitor.
The Matrox MXO is another option that is output only, but allows you to view your footage on an Apple Cinema Display at full broadcast quality.
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Shane's Stock Answer #8: External Monitor Viewing
If you are working with DV, this is simple. First connect your computer to a camera or deck via firewire, Then connect the camera/deck to your TV/Monitor via RCA or S-Video.
Then start up your camera and tv, then open fcp.
Go to the View Menu, choose > External video > all frames
VIEW>Video playback should be Apple firewire NTSC (If you are using an NTSC set)
VIEW>Audio playback should be Audio follows Video
Techinially, this should send synched video to your TV
If for some reason you can't view your timeline on your external monitor, there are a few things to try:
1) Make sure that the camera/deck is connected and powered on BEFORE you open FCP.
2) In the Final Cut Pro menu select AUDIO/VIDEO Preferences and make sure your signal is being sent out thru Firewire DV.
3) Go to the menu and select VIEW>EXTERNAL>ALL FRAMES.
4) Click in the % box above the image and select FIT TO WINDOW.
5) Go to VIEW->refresh A/V devices
6) Make sure the Log & Capture window is closed
If you want it to play in both the canvas and the external monitor you need to go to the FINAL CUT PRO menu and select AUDIO/VIDIO settings and make sure MIRROR ON DESKTOP is selected under the PLAYBACK OUTPUT section.
If you are working with HDV footage, FCP 6 allows you to view this via firewire, but ONLY as downconverted DV. It won't look the best, but you can see it. To do this,
If you need to view any format other than DV at full resolution, then you need to look into capture cards. Several standard definition and high definition models are available from www.aja.com and www.decklink.com. With these options you'll need a proper monitor to view full broadcast colors, but all models allow for realtime standard definition downconvert, allowing you to view HD on an SD monitor.
The Matrox MXO is another option that is output only, but allows you to view your footage on an Apple Cinema Display at full broadcast quality.

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