How to make the shuffle songs mode less "random"

In the past, with previous versions of iTunes, I was able to find a settings page that would allow me to control just how "Random" shuffle mode was by asking iTunes to choose songs by the same artist, album, etc. more or less likely, and to pick higher rated songs more often. I know it is possible to do that with the "Party Shuffle" but I want to do this with any of my play lists. I HOPE the answer doesn't involve using the Genius Play List because I have a very strong dislike for that feature and have turned it off.

Why oh why have they done this!
That you for your help (and excuse me while I rant).
If only I could revert to a previous version of iTunes. There are so many funky things with iTunes 8 that make it difficult and counter intuitive. In order to do a pale imitation of what I used to be able to do I have to make a new play list and open party shuffle, and select that playlist. Grrr.

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