I cant figure out why wont my Ipod touch wont show up in itunes?

all the sudden 2 of our ipod touchs wont show up in itunes the ipod nano we have does tho
it does show up im my computer as line 1 " apple ipod" line 2 "portable device"
one ipod is a 2nd gen and one is a 3rd gen
please read BEFORE YOU SUGGEST IPOD TROUBLE SHOOTING STEPS
i have tried reinstalling (following the correct steps apple gave) twice and i have the 64bit and this is 64bit computer
i have newest ver of itunes
i have restarted ipod
battery is full
its plugged right into the computer (its not the cord i tested on another laptop ipods show up fine there)
i have restarted computer
and i havent installed any new programs that would affect itunes
in itunes all it says is
iTunes could not connect to this iPod.
An unknown error occurred (0xE8000003)

on that post sadly i have tried all their steps
1 i did restart
2 it is latest ver
3 it meets min req it worked just fine before
4 all microsoft updates done
5 it is connected directly
6 used two dif cords and cords work fine on other comp
7 i have taken everything off
8 iv tried every usb port
9 i have reset all services before
10 i updated all drivers

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