Just added an external G-DRIVE
Hi everyone,
I just added an external 250 gig G-DRIVE to my MacPro tower. Am I supposed to"journal" this drive? I noticed that the internal drive is journaled while the external drive is not.
I simply turned off my computer, plugged in the external drive, turned on the drive then turned on the computer and all seems to be well. The computer recognizes the external drive.
I did see a RAID option on disc utility. Is that something I need to do?
I use my computer for video editing.
I'm new to this and apologize in advance if this question has been asked before.
doug
Mac OS X journals drives by default. It is suggedted to you enable journaling on the external drive.
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i would ideally like to not use all my macbooks memory either and we have an xbox so all the streaming for like netflix we can do on this. I guess thats why I'm wondering if it is a better idea and if it is possible for us to just utilize an external hard drive. And if we do that will i have more space on my computer?
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I thought I could just drag and drop my iTunes library to an external hard drive.
it'll work ... if done properly ☞
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Hi!
I have a WD my book external hard drive plugged into my imac and I want to share it over my network with my apple tv. I went into system preferences > sharing, checked "file sharing" and added my external hard drive to the shared folder. So now it is listed in "shared folders" but under "users" everything is grayed out (it says "read and write" for "everyone" - but "read and write" is grayed out, and it doesn't let me add or subtract users). Now I can access all of the folders I shared from my imac except for the externalhard drive. What's going on?Hi RRFS!,thanks for help.I forgot to tell that hard drive has 2 partitions 1:format :Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and that works properly,2:format:MS-DOS (FAT32) and when i "get info" for both :first has shering & permitions:You can read and write - with name and privilege, second has shaing & prermissions:You can read and write- without name and privilege
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In Finder's Menu, select Go menu>Go to Folder, and go to "/volumes". (no quotes)
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Drives with an extra 1 on the end have a side-effect of mounting a drive with the same name as the system already think exists. Try trashing the duplicates with a 1 or 2 if there are no real files in them, and reboot.
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Hi guys... I am working in my fathers company and running the media side of our small business. I do our website, print media and also our video production....
I have an iMac and it is running on 500gig of storage and 8meg of RAM.... I have almost filled up my hard drive and I am looking into to getting into to doing a lot more video work....
I need more storage, but I am not sure whether to invest in a RAID system or should I just get an external hard drive...
At what point is a RAID worth the investment ?
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HarrisonRAID provides a level of redundacy should one of the hard drives in the array fail.
I would only invest in RAID if you are able to support the RAID array and understand its limitations.
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When adding an external hard drive, should you connect it directly to your iMac or to your Apple Extreme router?
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Hello,
Ever since I added the external harddrive, I've encountered some problems: one is that my internet access has slowed down tremendously, behaving like a dial up instead of broadband cable.
The other is in iDVD, I get an error message when burning a 1.5 hr dvd. Then iDVD freezes and I must force quit.
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I have also run tests on my memory and all have come out ok.
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Lisette"Question: if I were to clone everything over to the external drive, would I need to completely reinstall Mac OSX and all the applications that came with the computer?"
No, when you clone using SuperDuper, everything would be duplicated and then you'd be duplicating it all back. The purpose is to defragment the HDD space. With possible very large files, the unused spaces themselves could get large and your Mac could perceive your HDD as being more full than it actually is. This despite the fact that Tiger automatically defrags. It's just that you may be using very large files, sort of exclusively, so there's no chance for Tiger to fill in.
First check out this current memory problem and the compatibility of your MyBook and its software, if you're using that. Otherwise, you could spend a terrific amount of time and end up only freeing up maybe an extra 10GB on your HDD.
Your page outs are very unfavorable, and indicate a very high demand for additional memory. I'm surprised since you have 1GB, but then I don't know what all you're doing. If this just happened in the last day or two, is it possible that you put a large amount of stuff on the external HD, and that Spotlight is in the process of indexing it? If that is happening at the same time that you're trying to use your entire 1GB of memory for iDVD, then that would be a likely explanation. Or anything like that in the way of multiple app use could be causing it. If that is what's going on, and your RAM is OK, then you'll be deciding about adding memory sooner than I thought!
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Sorry, also reread your posts, not seeing a reference to the external being firewire. Hope so, and that you're using that and not USB, being much slower. I definitely would not proceed with any cloning without firewire, or without additional RAM, unless you have a lot of spare time. Keep in mind, please, that too slow puts your iMac at some risk. What if there's a storm came up and power went out or worse in the middle of a day's worth of cloning? If you have valuable stuff on your HDD or external, don't be too quick to put it all at risk.
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I just bought an external hard drive. What files should I back up?
I just bought a 60gig external hard drive and I wanted to know what files should I back up?
The easiest is to drag /Users/<yourhomefoldername> to the backup drive.
Only the files you've created can't be replaced. The rest is on CDs, DVDs, or can be purchased again if need be.
I don't bother with clones because there's always the possibility of trouble down the line if you have to restore from one. (Something could be wrong with the clone, or it could be altered if you have to boot from it.) Why take the chance, when the OS and apps are expendable? And, if you don't test that the clone is good (by restoring to a blank drive), you're just fooling yourself as to its viability.
If the internal drive dies, you take the time to install a new one, load up OS and applications, then copy your home folder back. So your computer will be unusable for a half-day---big deal. This doesn't happen every day.
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you ask for reasons behind this idea
as all computers can fail mother boards hard drive ect to have acopy of my cherished photos and music collection that i can listen to look at on anther machine thats connected to my network sounds a good idea to me
ive had a mother board quit on me and lost a lot of memories and years on with lots more memoirs dont wont to loss any again i know that i can store a copy of the afor mentioned libaries onto External hard drive ,Flash Drives ect but the idea of keeping them in place and allowing access through my personal network apeals to meIt's not recommended to run an library from a network NAS drive. The following is from this Apple doucment: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS5168
Additionally, storing the iPhoto library on a network rather than locally on your computer can also lead to poor performance or data loss
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I've added it ok and I think I configured Airport utility ok yet when I find my time capsule in the network neighbor hood and log in to it
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Thank you - I had tried to do this but it didn't work. What I finally found that worked was that on the desktop I right clicked and then selected "new folder". I named it documents (then did the same for applications) and dragged those folders from the desktop to the dock, and am in the process of dragging the documents and applicatons from their original folders into the new ones - it seems to be working fine.
I have no idea why it didn't work as you suggested - I tried several times with no luck, I even took a few unused icons off the dock in case there was not enough room.
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