MacBook Pro (Late) 2008 running 10.8.4 Have a Black Screen cannot get out of sleep mode/will reboot/will sound off at restart.

MacBook Pro (Late) 2008 running 10.8.4
I was using my computer every morning as I do everyday with no issues. I had left home for most of the day. Closed lid and while I was gone for a couple of hours. I returned home, opened my MacBook and nothing but a black screen. I've tried many things all evening try and fix this problem out of "safety sleep mode, and other similiar tricks that other people had tried.
I still have a Black Screen and cannot get my macbook out of what seems to be the sleep mode.
I've done a master reset and after I restart, I do get the power up chime but still a black screen. I don't know what else to do. Please help. Should I bring computer to a local repair shop or is there something I can do to fix myself. I just don't know where to start.
Thank you.
Susan

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    com.cisco.kext.acsock          1.1.0
    com.apple.nke.rvi          2.0.0
    com.apple.filesystems.smbfs          2.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWSensor          1.9.5d0
    com.apple.driver.AGPM          100.14.11
    com.apple.filesystems.autofs          3.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBluetoothSerialManager          4.2.0f6
    com.apple.driver.AudioAUUC          1.60
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyHIDDriver          124
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDA          2.5.2fc2
    com.apple.driver.AppleMikeyDriver          2.5.2fc2
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMCLMU          2.0.4d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleMuxControl          3.4.12
    com.apple.GeForceTesla          8.1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleUpstreamUserClient          3.5.13
    com.apple.driver.AppleMCCSControl          1.1.12
    com.apple.iokit.BroadcomBluetoothHostControllerUSBTransport          4.2.0f6
    com.apple.iokit.IOUserEthernet          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.Dont_Steal_Mac_OS_X          7.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHWAccess          1
    com.apple.driver.ACPI_SMC_PlatformPlugin          1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleLPC          1.7.0
    com.apple.driver.SMCMotionSensor          3.0.4d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCButtons          240.2
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBTCKeyboard          240.2
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeDataless          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.AppleFSCompression.AppleFSCompressionTypeZlib          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.BootCache          35
    com.apple.driver.AppleIRController          325.7
    com.apple.iokit.SCSITaskUserClient          3.6.0
    com.apple.driver.XsanFilter          404
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIBlockStorage          2.4.0
    com.apple.nvenet          2.0.21
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBHub          650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleFWOHCI          4.9.9
    com.apple.driver.AirPort.Brcm4331          700.20.22
    com.apple.driver.AppleAHCIPort          2.9.5
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBEHCI          650.4.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBOHCI          650.4.1
    com.apple.driver.AppleSmartBatteryManager          161.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleRTC          2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHPET          1.8
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIButtons          2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBIOS          2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIEC          2.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleAPIC          1.7
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagementClient          216.0.0
    com.apple.nke.applicationfirewall          153
    com.apple.security.quarantine          3
    com.apple.driver.AppleIntelCPUPowerManagement          216.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBAudio          2.9.3f17
    com.apple.AppleGraphicsDeviceControl          3.4.12
    com.apple.kext.triggers          1.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSerialFamily          10.0.7
    com.apple.driver.DspFuncLib          2.5.2fc2
    com.apple.vecLib.kext          1.0.0
    com.apple.driver.AppleHDAController          2.5.2fc2
    com.apple.iokit.IOHDAFamily          2.5.2fc2
    com.apple.driver.AppleGraphicsControl          3.4.12
    com.apple.driver.AppleSMBusPCI          1.0.12d1
    com.apple.driver.AppleBacklightExpert          1.0.4
    com.apple.nvidia.classic.NVDANV50HalTesla          8.1.8
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    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireIP          2.2.5
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    com.apple.kext.OSvKernDSPLib          1.14
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    com.apple.driver.IOPlatformPluginLegacy          1.0.0
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    com.apple.driver.AppleSMC          3.1.6d1
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    com.apple.driver.AppleUSBComposite          650.4.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIMultimediaCommandsDevice          3.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOBDStorageFamily          1.7
    com.apple.iokit.IODVDStorageFamily          1.7.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOCDStorageFamily          1.7.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCISerialATAPI          2.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSCSIArchitectureModelFamily          3.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBUserClient          650.4.4
    com.apple.iokit.IOFireWireFamily          4.5.5
    com.apple.iokit.IO80211Family          600.34
    com.apple.iokit.IONetworkingFamily          3.2
    com.apple.iokit.IOAHCIFamily          2.6.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOUSBFamily          650.4.4
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFINVRAM          2.0
    com.apple.driver.NVSMU          2.2.9
    com.apple.driver.AppleEFIRuntime          2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOHIDFamily          2.0.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOSMBusFamily          1.1
    com.apple.security.sandbox          278.10
    com.apple.kext.AppleMatch          1.0.0d1
    com.apple.security.TMSafetyNet          7
    com.apple.driver.AppleKeyStore          2
    com.apple.driver.DiskImages          371.1
    com.apple.iokit.IOStorageFamily          1.9
    com.apple.iokit.IOReportFamily          21
    com.apple.driver.AppleFDEKeyStore          28.30
    com.apple.driver.AppleACPIPlatform          2.0
    com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily          2.8
    com.apple.iokit.IOACPIFamily          1.4
    com.apple.kec.pthread          1
    com.apple.kec.corecrypto          1.0
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    Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT, PCIe, 512 MB
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    Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM1, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x0198, 0x393930353432382D3035312E4130304C4620
    AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0x8D), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.22)
    Bluetooth: Version 4.2.0f6 12982, 3 services, 15 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
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    Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS723232L9SA62, 320.07 GB
    Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-868
    USB Device: Built-in iSight
    USB Device: Logitech USB Headset
    USB Device: BRCM2046 Hub
    USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller
    USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad
    USB Device: IR Receiver
    Thunderbolt Bus:

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    Did a hardware test : No issues
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    Thanks for any help that you could provide

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    Even though the symptoms don't match up exactly, you may have the NVIDIA issue. First, go to System Profiler > Hardware > Graphics/Displays and see if you have the GeForce 8600M GT GPU. This is the GPU covered under the free repair program. While there, also look at PCIe Lane Width. If it says anything other than x16, the GPU has issues (but this is only one potential symptom). If you have the 8600 GPU, bring the MBP to an Apple Store or AASP for free testing. If Apple's free test confirms the issue, repair is free. Read all about it here: http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377
    Also, whether you have the 8600 or not, you should run all the updates in Software Update.

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