Mass Upload - ALE/IDOC or BAPI approch

Hi Guys,
I have to upload material master and we have options to do it by either ALE/IDOC or BAPI approach. The quantity of materials is quite huge. I tried to find some comparison about different approaches so as to know when to use what but not able to get exact information. Kindly suggest which one is usually preferred for mass upload and if possible provide some links for more references.
Thanks,
Brijesh Soni

I have never seen such recomendations or benchmarks
SAP has a homepage for benchmarks: http://www.sap.com/solutions/benchmark/index.epx
the source is the same, then result is the same. all steps in LSMW are the same. you have to map the same fields in any method.
BAPI may have some more structures than IDOC or batch input. so just minutes more to assign the source structure to the target structure. .
it is a historical growth or development. It started with batch input to process SAP transactions en mass
then the IDOCs came to exchange data between 2 SAP systems.
and then we got the BAPIs to execute SAP transactions even from a non-sap system.
the result is in all three methods a created material master.
LSMW is a toolbox which gives you any of the available import methods.
there are other aspects to be considered in a migration.
What if you have errors? do you correct them yourself, or do you want the business people to fix them.
if you want business people to fix wrong data, then a batch import method may be the first option, as you can process it in foreground. It is too much complicated for a Non-IT-person to edit values in IDOCs. (even the performance may be better than a batch input)

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Hi Folks,
What is the different between ALE, IDOC and BAPI? and send me the following steps?
Thanks in advance.
Siva

Hi,
please read the below lines.
ALE
ALE is SAP proprietary technology that enables data communications between two or more SAP R/3 systems and/or R/3 and external systems. When a new enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution such as R/3 is implemented, companies have to interface the ERP system with legacy systems or other ERP systems.
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Hi Manas,
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See the below links
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http://www.stylusstudio.com/edi/XML_to_X12.html
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http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
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http://www.seeburger.com
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/AS2_General_Overview.pdf
http://www.seeburger.it/fileadmin/it/pdf/2005_04_sapphire_Ferrero_transcript.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/SEEBURGER_SAP_Adapter_engl.pdf
http://www.seeburger.com/fileadmin/com/pdf/Butler_Group_SEEBURGER_Technology_Audit.pdf
http://www.sap.com/france/company/events/2006/02-01-Automotive-Seeburger.pdf
http://h41123.www4.hp.com/presentations/ISUG/XISeeBurger.ppt
http://www.sap.com/asia/company/events/nwtechdays/presentation/australia-slides/Pre-Built_Integration.pdf
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Creation of Custom IDOc type and message Type
First Create Partner Profile(WE20 Tcode) and Port Definition in WE19 Tcodes.
take the Basis help to create them.
1.First create segments in WE31 Tcode with the required dataelements
2.Create the Basic Idoc Type in WE30
   release the Segments and IDOC type.
3.Create Message type in We81
4.Assign the message type to IDOC type in WE82 T code
5.Create the process code in We41 (for Outbound) WE42 (for Inbound)
6.Create A fun module in SE37 starting with ZIDOC_OUTPUT_.. by copying some Inbound (for    Inbound) Outbound Fun module
7.Create Workflow setting if needed ..
8. Assign the fun module to Idoc Type, Message Type and WF object (if it is there0
9.Define setting for fun module in BD51
10.In BD51 Define the settings for Fun module..
10.Assign the Processs Code to Fun mod`ule
Check these links.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/idoc_abap.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/0b/2a60bb507d11d18ee90000e8366fc2/frameset.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/78/217da751ce11d189570000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sappoint.com/abap.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.docs
Please check this PDF documents for ALE and IDoc.
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEIO/BCMIDALEIO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDALEPRO/BCMIDALEPRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFAALEQS/CABFAALEQS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDISC/CAEDISCAP_STC.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCSRVEDI/CAEDI.pdf
Check below link. It will give the step by step procedure for IDOC creation.
http://www.supinfo-projects.com/cn/2005/idocs_en/2/
DEFINING THE BADI
1) execute Tcode SE18.
2) Specify a definition Name : ZBADI_SPFLI
3) Press create
4) Choose the attribute tab. Specify short desc for badi.. and specify the type :
multiple use.
5) Choose the interface tab
6) Specify interface name: ZIF_EX_BADI_SPFLI and save.
7) Dbl clk on interface name to start class builder . specify a method name (name,
level, desc).
Method level desc
Linese;ection instance methos some desc
8) place the cursor on the method name desc its parameters to define the interface.
Parameter type refe field desc
I_carrid import spfli-carrid some
I_connid import spefi-connid some
9) save , check and activateadapter class proposed by system is
ZCL_IM_IM_LINESEL is genereated.
IMPLEMENTATION OF BADI DEFINITION
1) EXECUTE tcode se18.choose menuitem create from the implementation menubar.
2) Specify aname for implementation ZIM_LINESEL
3) Specify short desc.
4) Choose interface tab. System proposes a name fo the implementation class.
ZCL_IM_IMLINESEL which is already generarted.
5) Specify short desc for method
6) Dbl clk on method to insert code..(check the code in AAA).
7) Save , check and activate the code.
Some useful URL
http://www.esnips.com/doc/e06e4171-29df-462f-b857-54fac19a9d8e/ppt-on-badis.ppt
http://www.esnips.com/doc/10016c34-55a7-4b13-8f5f-bf720422d265/BADIs.pdf
http://www.esnips.com/doc/43a58f51-5d92-4213-913a-de05e9faac0d/Business-Addin.doc
http://www.esnips.com/doc/1e10392e-64d8-4181-b2a5-5f04d8f87839/badi.doc
www.sapgenie.com/publications/saptips/022006%20-%20Zaidi%20BADI.pdf
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/enhance/enhance_badi.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/04/f3683c05ea4464e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/e6/d54d3c596f0b26e10000000a11402f/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/c2/eab541c5b63031e10000000a155106/frameset.htm
Now write a sample program to use this badi method..
Look for BBB sample program.
AAA
data : wa_flights type sflight,
it_flights type table of sflight.
format color col_heading.
write:/ 'Flight info of:', i_carrid, i_connid.
format color col_normal.
select * from sflight
into corresponding fields of table it_flights
where carrid = i_carrid
and connid = i_connid.
loop at it_flights into wa_flights.
write:/ wa_flights-fldate,
wa_flights-planetype,
wa_flights-price currency wa_flights-currency,
wa_flights-seatsmax,
wa_flights-seatsocc.
endloop.
BBB
*& Report ZBADI_TEST *
REPORT ZBADI_TEST .
tables: spfli.
data: wa_spfli type spfli,
it_spfli type table of spfli with key carrid connid.
*Initialise the object of the interface.
data: exit_ref type ref to ZCL_IM_IM_LINESEL,
exit_ref1 type ref to ZIF_EX_BADISPFLI1.
selection-screen begin of block b1.
select-options: s_carr for spfli-carrid.
selection-screen end of block b1.
start-of-selection.
select * from spfli into corresponding fields of table it_spfli
where carrid in s_carr.
end-of-selection.
loop at it_spfli into wa_spfli.
write:/ wa_spfli-carrid,
wa_spfli-connid,
wa_spfli-cityfrom,
wa_spfli-deptime,
wa_spfli-arrtime.
hide: wa_spfli-carrid, wa_spfli-connid.
endloop.
at line-selection.
check not wa_spfli-carrid is initial.
create object exit_ref.
exit_ref1 = exit_ref.
call method exit_ref1->lineselection
EXPORTING
i_carrid = wa_spfli-carrid
i_connid = wa_spfli-connid.
clear wa_spfli.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/eb/3e7cf7940e11d295df0000e82de14a/frameset.htm
and
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/eb/3e7cf7940e11d295df0000e82de14a/frameset.htm
BAPI
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/7e/5e114a4a1611d1894c0000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/abap/bapi/example.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/9b/417f07ee2211d1ad14080009b0fb56/frameset.htm
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid21_gci948835,00.html
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid21_gci948835,00.html
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6329-1051160.html#
http://www.sap-img.com/bapi.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/bapi-conventions.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/abap/bapi/example.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDAPII/CABFAAPIINTRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFABAPIREF/CABFABAPIPG.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCFESDE8/BCFESDE8.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFABAPIREF/CABFABAPIPG.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDAPII/CABFAAPIINTRO.pdf
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6329-1051160.html#
http://www.sap-img.com/bapi.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/bapi-conventions.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
ALE
check url
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/configuration.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/ale2.pdf
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/training
And also u can get lots of inof from the below link.
http://www.sapgenie.com/ale/why_ale.htm
LSMW
http://www.sapbrain.com/TOOLS/LSMW/SAP_LSMW_steps_introduction.html
http://esnips.com/doc/8e732760-5548-44cc-a0bb-5982c9424f17/lsmw_sp.ppt
http://esnips.com/doc/f55fef40-fb82-4e89-9000-88316699c323/Data-Transfer-Using-LSMW.zip
http://esnips.com/doc/1cd73c19-4263-42a4-9d6f-ac5487b0ebcb/LSMW-with-Idocs.ppt
http://esnips.com/doc/ef04c89f-f3a2-473c-beee-6db5bb3dbb0e/LSMW-with-BAPI.ppt
http://esnips.com/doc/7582d072-6663-4388-803b-4b2b94d7f85e/LSMW.pdf
for Long texts Upload
Please take a look at this..
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/e1/c6d30210e6cf4eac7b054a73f8fb1d/frameset.htm
Reward points if useful
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BAPI ALE-IDOC

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Object type:- USER
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FM for Inbound:- IDOC_INPUT_USERCLONE
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Now i don't understand how the data will be uploaded into IDOC, how BAPI will read the data.. If some sample Program is available which will help in firing the BAPI, then provide me the link..
It's urgent.. Useful results will be rewarded.
Thanks.
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hi,
BAPI-step by step
http://www.sapgenie.com/abap/bapi/example.htm
list of all bapis
http://www.planetsap.com/LIST_ALL_BAPIs.htm
for BAPI's
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiprg.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiactx.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapilst.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiexer.pdf
http://service.sap.com/ale
http://service.sap.com/bapi
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDAPII/CABFAAPIINTRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFABAPIREF/CABFABAPIPG.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCFESDE8/BCFESDE8.pdf
http://www.planetsap.com/Bapi_main_page.htm
http://www.topxml.com/sap/sap_idoc_xml.asp
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/java/jco/bapi_jco.pdf

Steps to create BAPI ALE-IDoc

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I have a scenario where i have to replicate user master record from one server to another through BAPI ALE IDoc.i have some standard info available
                            message type:- USERCLONE
                            Object type:- USER
                            Method:- CLONE
                            IDoc Type:- USERCLONE05
FM for outbound:- ALE_USER_CLONE
FM for Inbound:- IDOC_INPUT_USERCLONE
With this much of information i dn't knw how to proceed further.
i have created Distribution Model, added BAPI, created partner profile.
Now i don't understand how the data will be uploaded into IDOC, how BAPI will read the data.. If some sample Program is available which will help in firing the BAPI, then provide me the link..
It's urgent.. Useful results will be rewarded.
Thanks.
Please help me with the required steps..

Hi All,
I have a scenario where i have to replicate user master record from one server to another through BAPI ALE IDoc.i have some standard info available
                            message type:- USERCLONE
                            Object type:- USER
                            Method:- CLONE
                            IDoc Type:- USERCLONE05
FM for outbound:- ALE_USER_CLONE
FM for Inbound:- IDOC_INPUT_USERCLONE
With this much of information i dn't knw how to proceed further.
i have created Distribution Model, added BAPI, created partner profile.
Now i don't understand how the data will be uploaded into IDOC, how BAPI will read the data.. If some sample Program is available which will help in firing the BAPI, then provide me the link..
It's urgent.. Useful results will be rewarded.
Thanks.
Please help me with the required steps..

ALE/Idoc BAPI FAQs?

Hi Friends,
I would like to know where can i get FAQs on ALE/Idoc and BAPI..
Thanks..
Abdul

Here are some links
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/general/0,295582,sid21_gci1110008,00.html
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid21_gci948835,00.html
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/43/b46c4b53c111d395fa00a0c94260a5/content.htm
Regards,
Rich Heilman

Objects in ale/idocs, bapi

1)can any one give me any good object in ale /idocs and BAPI and explain them (senario where that is used and why and how .
i will give you maximun reward points if i can understand them .

Hi,
IDOC Programming
There are two processes in IDOC processing one is INBOUND PROCESS( IDOC coming to the system and its handling at various stages) and the other is OUTBOUND PROCESS( IDOC is send to other system . Separate ABAP programs are written for these 2 processes and different configuration settings are required for each one .Depending upon the trigeering mechanism different programming approaches are used.OUTBOUND PROGRAMS handle the IDOC creation and INBOUND PROGRAMS handle the inbound IDOC and the data trasfer from the IDOC to the database tables.
NEED FOR ABAP PROGRAMMING arises if
1)New IDOC was created
   Depending upon the triggering mechanism i.e change pointer,message control
   etc the programming technique changes and the type of process.
2)Existing IDOC was extended
   User Exits are used to populate data in new segments added and to read them
   back.
3)To enhance an exsiting process.
   User Exits are used .
Basic structure of an OUTBOUND PROGRAM
The basic structure of all outbound programs is same. The CONTROL
record which is of TYPE EDIDC has to be filled. It contains important fields like
IDOCTP      IDOC type
MESTYP    Message Type
RCVPRN    Recieving Partner (Destination)
RCVPRT    Partner Type (it is LS i.e Logical System)
The DATA RECORD internal table which is of TYPE EDIDD has to be filled
in the same order as there are segments in the IDOC definition.
It has 2 important fields which are to be filled ,these are
SEGNAM Name of the segment
SEGDATA Data in the segment and can be upto 1000 bytes.This field
                is corresponds to each data segment in the IDOC.
e.g.
DATA INT_EDIDD LIKE EDIDD OCCURS 0 WITH HEADER LINE.
DATA W_SEGDATA LIKE zsegment "custom segment zsegment
       INT_EDIDD-SEGNAM = 'ZSEGMENT'
       W_SEGDATA-field1 = value    "taken from some table
       W_SEGDATA-field2 = value    "taken from some table
       INT_EDIDD-SEGDATA = W_SEGDATA
       APPEND INT_EDIDD
This will fill the data record corresponding to the segment ZSEGMENT . For all
segments the sam steps will be repeated until all the data corresponding to all the
segments in the idoc is filled in the internal table of type EDIDD.
      There is only one control record and can be multile data records in the idoc
structure.
Which data is to be extracted from the tables to be filled in EDIDD type internal table is determined in standalone programs from the objects which are specified in the selection screen and from the object key passed to the function module in case of message control and is taken from BDCP table in case of change pointers using function modules "CHANGE_POINTERS_READ"
      In case of stand alone programs and function modules based on change pointers method the function module "MASTER_IDOC_DISTRIBUTE" is used to send the IDOC to ALE layer for distribution ,in case of message control it is handled automatically by the RSNASTED program invoked by the message control.
OUTBOUND PROCESS AND OUTBOUND PROGRAM
Outbound programs are used in outbound process to genearte IDOCs . There
purpose is to extract the data from the tables and to fill the IDOC data records
and the control record in the IDOC and pass ito the ALE layer for distribution to the recieving system .
Depending upon the triggering mechanism (how and when the outbound program will be started different techniques and interface is used for outbound program.
1)Message control
Application like PO(purchase order) creation use this technique , where the output type is linked to the application(Message control is a configurable cross application component which can be set in IMG .Such programs are created in the form of function modules and linked to the output type which is linked to the apllication.These have predefined interfaces.
In outbound programs(function module) that use message control the key of the
application document is passed to the function module whcig will read the data from the table depending upon the key passed(NAST structure) and fill the IDOC segemnts with the application data.The control record is also passed to the function module but is not fully filled, the rmaining fields are filled and the control is passed back to the calling program which is RSNASTED and is invoked by the
message control to process ALE and EDI output types and this program on recieving the IDOC data will create the physical IDOC in the system.
The parameteers passed to the function module are
IMPORTING PARAMETERS
OBJECT LIKE NAST
It contains documents key.
CONTROL_RECORD_IN LIKE EDIDC
It contains the partailly filled control record
EXPORETING PARAMETER
OBJECT_TYPE
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT LIKE EDIDC
TABLES
INT_EDID LIKE EDIDD
The internal table used to fill the data records in the same order as they exists in
the IDOC.
The important parameters that should be filled in the custom function module are
CONTROL_RECORD_OUT and INT_EDIDD .The OBJK field of the structue NAST contains the key of the apllication document.
2)Stand alone programs
Generally used for Master Data transfer and as such depending upon the requirement can have different interfaces.The programs have a selection screen which has select options to select the objects, and parameters for specifying the recipient Logical System and the Message Type.
Data is selected based on the specified objects from the tables . and control record of type EDIDC is created and filled with important values like DIRECTION ,IDOCTP,RCVPRT,RCVPRN and MESTYP .
Data is filled in an internal table of TYPE EDIDD according to segment definitions
and in same order and the function module MASTER_IDOC_DISTRIBUTE is called passing the control record and the internal table containg IDOC data and importing an internal table consisting of control records for each communication IDOCS created.
3)Change pointer
Change Pointer table is read and checked if changes were made to important fields , if so the outbound program will be triggered automatically , these have predefined interfaces
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Abap objects on ALE IDocs

can any one give me any good object in ale /idocs and BAPI and explain them (senario where that is used and why and how .
i will give you maximun reward points if i can understand that.

Hi,
These are some links for ALE/IDOCS.
http://www.erpgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.intelligententerprise.com/channels/applications/feature/archive/kasturi2.jhtml
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/edi_sap_training.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/ difference-between-edi-and-idoc.htm
http://www.help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/ en/35/26b592afab52b9e10000009b38f974/content.htm
http://www.help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/ en/35/26b594afab52b9e10000009b38f974/content.htm
http://www.onestopsap.com/interview-Question/edi/
http://www.easymarketplace.de/online-pdfs.php
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2004/helpdata/en/dc/6b835943d711d1893e0000e8323c4f/content.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
http://edocs.bea.com/elink/adapter/r3/userhtm/ale.htm#1008419
http://www.netweaverguru.com/EDI/HTML/IDocBook.htm
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapedi/index.htm
http://www.onestopsap.com/interview-Question/ale/
http://www.onestopsap.com/interview-Question/edi/
http://www.allsaplinks.com/idoc_sample.html
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/ale-bapi.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/basis/difference-between-edi-and-idoc.htm
http://www.sappro.com/downloads/OneClientDistribution.pdf
http://www.sapgenie.com/sapgenie/docs/ale_scenario_development_procedure.doc
Please check this link for EDI/ALE/IDoc online documentation.
http://www.easymarketplace.de/online-pdfs.php
for BAPI's
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiprg.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiactx.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapilst.pdf
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiexer.pdf
http://service.sap.com/ale
http://service.sap.com/bapi
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDAPII/CABFAAPIINTRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFABAPIREF/CABFABAPIPG.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCFESDE8/BCFESDE8.pdf
http://www.planetsap.com/Bapi_main_page.htm
http://www.topxml.com/sap/sap_idoc_xml.asp
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/
http://www.sapdevelopment.co.uk/java/jco/bapi_jco.pdf
Also refer to the following links..
www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
www.sap-img.com/bapi.htm
www.sap-img.com/abap/bapi-conventions.htm
www.planetsap.com/Bapi_main_page.htm
www.sapgenie.com/abap/bapi/index.htm
Checkout !!
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid21_gci948835,00.html
http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-6329-1051160.html#
http://www.sap-img.com/bapi.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/abap/bapi-conventions.htm
http://www.sappoint.com/abap/bapiintro.pdf
BAPI
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/9b/417f07ee2211d1ad14080009b0fb56/frameset.htm
http://searchsap.techtarget.com/originalContent/0,289142,sid21_gci948835,00.html
http://www.sapgenie.com/abap/bapi/example.htm
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCMIDAPII/CABFAAPIINTRO.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/CABFABAPIREF/CABFABAPIPG.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/BCFESDE8/BCFESDE8.pdf
Example Code
U need to give the step_nr, item_nr, cond_count and cond_type so the correct conditon will be updated. If no condition exists for the given parameters, a new condition will be created.
U can find these parameters for a particular condition type in table KONV.
*& Form saveTransactionJOCR
text
--> p1 text
<-- p2 text
FORM saveTransactionJOCR .
data: salesdocument like BAPIVBELN-VBELN,
order_header_inx like bapisdh1x,
order_header_in like bapisdh1,
return type standard table of bapiret2 with header line,
conditions_in type standard table of bapicond with header line,
conditions_inx type standard table of bapicondx with header line,
logic_switch like BAPISDLS,
step_nr like conditions_in-cond_st_no,
item_nr like conditions_in-itm_number,
cond_count like conditions_in-cond_count,
cond_type like conditions_in-cond_type.
salesdocument = wa_order_information-VBELN.
LOGIC_SWITCH-COND_HANDL = 'X'.
order_header_inx-updateflag = 'U'.
conditions
clear conditions_in[].
clear conditions_inx[].
clear: step_nr,
item_nr,
cond_count,
cond_type.
step_nr = '710'.
item_nr = '000000'.
cond_count = '01'.
cond_type = 'ZCP2'.
CONDITIONS_IN-ITM_NUMBER = item_nr.
conditions_in-cond_st_no = step_nr.
CONDITIONS_IN-COND_COUNT = cond_count.
CONDITIONS_IN-COND_TYPE = cond_type.
CONDITIONS_IN-COND_VALUE = 666.
CONDITIONS_IN-CURRENCY = 'EUR'.
append conditions_in.
CONDITIONS_INX-ITM_NUMBER = item_nr.
conditions_inx-cond_st_no = step_nr.
CONDITIONS_INX-COND_COUNT = cond_count.
CONDITIONS_INX-COND_TYPE = cond_type.
CONDITIONS_INX-UPDATEFLAG = 'U'.
CONDITIONS_INX-COND_VALUE = 'X'.
CONDITIONS_INX-CURRENCY = 'X'.
append conditions_inx.
CALL FUNCTION 'BAPI_SALESORDER_CHANGE'
EXPORTING
SALESDOCUMENT = salesdocument
ORDER_HEADER_IN = order_header_in
ORDER_HEADER_INX = order_header_inx
LOGIC_SWITCH = logic_switch
TABLES
RETURN = return
CONDITIONS_IN = conditions_in
CONDITIONS_INX = conditions_inx
if return-type ne 'E'.
commit work and wait.
endif.
ENDFORM. " saveTransactionJOCR
Bdc to Bapi
The steps to be followed are :
1. Find out the relevant BAPI (BAPI_SALESORDER_CHANGE for VA02).
[for VA01 use BAPI_SALESORDER_CREATEFROMDAT2]
2. Create a Z program and call the BAPi (same as a Funtion module call).
2. Now, if you see this BAPi, it has
-> Importing structures.
eg: SALESDOCUMENT: this will take the Sales order header data as input.
-> Tables parameters:
eg: ORDER_ITEM_IN: this will take the line item data as input.
Note :
Only specify fields that should be changed
Select these fields by entering an X in the checkboxes
Enter a U in the UPDATEFLAG field
Always specify key fields when changing the data, including in the checkboxes
The configuration is an exception here. If this needs to be changed, you need to complete it again fully.
Maintain quantities and dates in the schedule line data
Possible UPDATEFLAGS:
U = change
D = delete
I = add
Example
1. Delete the whole order
2. Delete order items
3. Change the order
4. Change the configuration
Notes
1. Minimum entry:
You must enter the order number in the SALESDOCUMENT structure.
You must always enter key fields for changes.
You must always specify the update indicator in the ORDER_HEADER_INX.
2. Commit control:
The BAPI does not run a database Commit, which means that the application must trigger the Commit so that the changes are read to the database. To do this, use the BAPI_TRANSACTION_COMMIT BAPI.
For further details... refer to the Function Module documentation for the BAPi.
Bapi to VB(Visual Basic)
Long back I had used the following flow structure to acheive the same.
Report -> SM59 RFC destination -> COM4ABAP -> VB.exe
my report uses the rfc destination to create a COM session with com4abap. com4abap calls the vb.exe and manages the flow of data between sap and vb exe.
You need to have com4abap.exe
If com4abap is installed you will find it in sapgui installatin directory , C:\Program Files\SAPpc\sapgui\RFCSDK\com4abap.
else refer OSS note 419822 for installation of com4abap
after making the settings in com4abap to point to the vb program and setting up rfc destination in sm59 to point to com4abap session , you can use the following function modules to call the vb code.
for setting up com4abap and rfc destination please refer to the documentation for com4abap.
Invoke NEW DCOM session
call function 'BEGIN_COM_SESSION'
exporting
service_dest = service_dest "(this will be a RFC destination created in SM59)
importing
worker_dest = worker_dest
exceptions
connect_to_dcom_service_failed = 1
connect_to_dcom_worker_failed = 2
others = 3.
call function 'create_com_instance' destination worker_dest
exporting
clsid = g_c_clsid
typelib = g_c_typelib
importing
instid = g_f_oid
exceptions
communication_failure = 1 message g_f_msg
system_failure = 2 message g_f_msg
invalid_instance_id = 3
others = 4.
call function 'com_invoke' destination worker_dest
exporting
%instid = g_f_oid
%method = 'UpdatePDF'
sntemp = g_v_const_filent
snsysid = sy-sysid
snflag = 'N'
tables
rssaptable = g_t_pdfdetail1
%return = g_t_pdfdetail1 "t_test
exceptions
communication_failure = 1 message g_f_msg
system_failure = 2 message g_f_msg
invalid_instance_id = 3
others = 4.
then close the com session , using
FM delete_com_instance
FM END_COM_SESSION
Regards,
Priyanka.

I want ale/idoc process

hai this is siva,
i want ale/idoc process,
thanks,
siva

IDoc Processing with the IDoc Adapter: http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/b9/c5b13bbeb0cb37e10000000a11402f/content.htm
What is the different between ALE, IDOC and BAPI?:
http://sapsdforum.com/2007/12/28/what-is-the-different-between-ale-idoc-and-bapi/
HOPE THIS HELPS.
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Upload data from legacy system to SAP through ALE IDOC

Hello All,
I have a requirement where i need to upload the data from legacy system to SAP. So i am using ALE IDOC.
In my requirement i need to extend the Standard IDOC. I have extended the IDOC and even found the exit for the updation of the extended fields to SAP. My data would be be placed in the application server.
Can anybody tell me how to retrieve the data and update in the tables for the extended fields.
Could you please provide a sample program for retrieving data for IDOC.
Thanks

Hi,
You can find the sample code in the following link.
Re: calling idoc_input_creditor
Regards
Sajid

ALE/IDOC and RFC/BAPI Integration Scenarios with SAP DS for ESA v3

Hi,
we are planning two PoCs of Integration Plattforms. One of our major requirement set is SAP Integration into our existing SOA.
Because we also have R/3 4.7 Systems in production, we are planning to test ALE/IDOC and RFC/BAPI Integration scenarios with these Integration Plattforms.
My question is:
We are looking for are smart solution to get a SAP Test Environment, where we can test ALE/IDOC und RFC/BAPI Integration scenarios.
It is possible to do this with SAP DS for ESA v3 or shall we better use IDES for that purpose?
Best regards,
Steven

Hi Abhishek,
This is our scenario. We are doing an integration of SAP HR r/3 system with the CRM system. We need housing information details of the employees which we have in custom infotype 9310 in SAP HR system and we need those details in the CRM system. So am planning out for an ALE/IDOC approach for the integration and gonna maintain the 9310 details in a custom table. In the CRM system, we gonna build a BOL layer for accessing the 9310 details. Also i'm preparing a HLD for this process. I wanna read and go through few same HLD's before i submit my proposal to my client. Please suggest me and help me out.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Arunmozhi.

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