1.2 RAW + JPEG Stacking problem

I have posted this elsewhere, but nobody seems to understand my problem, I hope I can describe it correctly here...
Lightroom 1.2 is stacking photos automatically where the filename is the same, although the extensions are different:
All my photos are stored in folders by Date (i.e. I have a folder named "2007 10 04", which has 93 photos taken on that date). I have 2 files that have similar names (from different cameras). One file is of a duck and is named "IMG001.CR2", and the other file is of a cat named "IMG001.JPG". Lightroom has seen these files as the same photo and displays the duck photo, but hides the cat photo. The thumbnail only shows the duck photo, and has the header "CR2+JPG" to show me there are 2 photos. I want to separate these photos from each other, but cannot see how!
I hope this makes sense.

I don't think you CAN view them seperately later if they are 'joined'.
Way I heard it described was that it shows CR2+JPG as a 'convenience' so you know its there and Lightroom didn't just totally ignore it. (And apparently it would use it as a sidecar for display until LR created its own previews.)
Initially in 1.0 LR wouldn't let you import the jpegs at ALL unless they were in a different folder from the RAW images. This was because it was apparently thought that no "real" workflow by a "real" photographer would involve anyone wanting to look at the jpegs if the RAW existed, and being "smarter" than the user it wouldn't bring them in at all if they were side by side. Wasn't until they got flamed for this and some battles behind the scenes that they begrudgingly allow us to now do this.
What I'll probably do is evntually start stacking my jpegs with my RAW images... I wish there was an option to AUTOSTACK RAW to jpeg on import.

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Aperture Raw & Jpeg import Problem

I'm on the current Aperture and face the following situation: I have a memory card containing photos shot partly as jpeg-only and partly as jpeg&raw.
No problem one should think since Aperture has the option to only import either raw or jpeg if there are more than one format per photo. Unfortunately, that is not working. If you select raw only, which I do for the raw&jpeg photos, Aperture does not import Photos which only have a jpeg-version at all.
This is not consistent with the options name and at all renders the whole import options useless in my case.
Am I missing something or is Aperture having an issue here?

I shot raw and jpeg since I was on a trip through the US and my Macbook broke so I had to use my iPad to upload the photos to my blog. Unfortunately the iPad software (iPhoto etc.) does not allow to change the resolution and with that the filesize of the photos. Uploading of hundreds of photos of more than 2 mb over public wifis on campgrounds etc is simply not possible, so I used the following workaround: Set raw+minimum jpeg size as file format and upload the small jpegs to the blog while keeping the raw on the memory card for later use.
That's why I shot both raw and jpeg and why I have photos shot as jpeg or raw only (before the laptop crash) and both raw and jpeg (after the crash) on the same memory card.
I'm Aperture user from the the very first version (when it was like hundreds of Euros), and I sadly cannot say that I'm surprised of the lack of support for non-standard workflows.
Well, so be it. Thank you for your help!

Using RAW+JPEG stacking script, but can't get JPEG as default thumbnail for stack. Help!

I am currently using this script I found elsewhere on Adobe forums. However, doing this function only will stack everything with the raw files on top. I am using a 5D MKIII now and Bridge CS4 can't generate the CR2 previews, so I need JPEGs to see what a file is for general editing. How do I get this stack script to put the JPEGS on top instead of the raw files?
(script originally posted by Paul Riggot in another forum)
#target bridge
   if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
AutoStack = MenuElement.create("command", "Auto Stack", "at the beginning of submenu/Stack", "zx1");
AutoStack.onSelect = function () {
   stackEm();
function stackEm(){
app.document.sorts = [{ name:"name",type:"string", reverse:false}];
var jpgs = Folder(app.document.presentationPath).getFiles ("*.jpg");
app.document.deselectAll();
for(var a in jpgs){
var Name = decodeURI(jpgs[a].name).replace(/\.[^\.]+$/, '');
var stacks = Folder(app.document.presentationPath).getFiles(Name+".*");
if(stacks.length < 2) continue;
for(var z in stacks){ app.document.select(new Thumbnail(stacks[z]));}
StackFiles();
app.document.deselectAll();
function StackFiles(){
app.document.chooseMenuItem('submenu/Stack');
app.document.chooseMenuItem('StackGroup');

I wonder if you have time if you could test this script for me please?
What it does (tries to do) is to create JPGs from the raw files in the same folder as the CR2 (raw) files.
N.B. IT WILL OVERWRITE ANY JPGS IN THE SAME FOLDER IF THE NAMES MATCH!
So please try it on a folder with raw files only.
The idea being it might be quicker to generate jpegs from the embedded thumbnail rather than shoot both raw/jpg?
T.I.A.
#target bridge
if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
AutoStackJpgs = MenuElement.create("command", "Create Stack JPGs", "at the beginning of submenu/Stack", "sj1");
AutoStackJpgs .onSelect = function () {
app.document.deselectAll();
var items = app.document.getSelection("crw,cr2,tiff,raw,rw2,dng,nef,orf,erf,mos,dcr,raf,srf,pef,x3f");
for (var a =0; a<items.length;a++){
var JPEG = new File(items[a].path.substr(0,items[a].path.lastIndexOf ('.'))+".jpg");
tempFile=new File(items[a].path);
var fileString='';
tempFile.open('r');
tempFile.encoding = 'BINARY';
fileString=tempFile.read();
tempFile.close();
for(var w =0;w<6;w++){
var startJpg=fileString.search(/\xFF\xD8\xFF/);
if(startJpg != -1){
if(testJPG()){
var endJpg = fileString.search(/\xFF\xD9/);
fileString = fileString.substr(0,endJpg+2);
JPEG.open('w');
JPEG.encoding = 'BINARY';
JPEG.write(fileString);
JPEG.close();
var newThumb = new Thumbnail(JPEG);
newThumb.rotation = items[a].rotation;
break;
}else{
fileString = fileString.substr(20);
continue;
function testJPG(){
var result=false;
fileString = fileString.substr(startJpg);
var endTest = fileString.search(/\xFF\xD9/);
if(endTest > 204800 ? result= true : result= false);
return result;

Looking for some RAW + JPEG Workflow suggestions

I'm looking for some suggestions on how best to organize my workflow now that I've started shooting with RAW +JPEG. I previously shot only in RAW, but the time spent in post-production was killing me. I've realized that for 95% of my shots that already have the correct exposure, white balance, etc, a JPEG photo is really all I need and saves me a ton of time. I've become convinced that editing every single photo from a shoot in RAW is overkill. I want to have the RAW versions, however, to rescue that occasional great shot where I unfortunately miffed the settings.
Through reading other posts here and experimenting, I've found that Aperture basically defulats to showing me only the imported RAW photos and that I need to click "New Version from Master JPEG" to see the JPEG version. This seems counterintuitive to the workflow I'd like to establish though. (i.e. I'm thinking it would be nice to see only the JPEG versions, and then only bring up the RAW version when the photo needs some serious correction).
I suppose I could highlight the entire batch of imported photos and select "New Version from Master JPEG" and then sort through each RAW/JPEG stack, but I'm still hoping there's a less cumbersome way. Anyone out there have any good workflow suggestions for this issue? I'm curious how other people out there deal with this issue in their workflow.
Thanks in advance!
Message was edited by: Nate Cannon

Try this - I do this as a matter of course:
-select all of the photos after importing them into a project
-create a new album from selection/call it JPG
-with all of the images still selected create new version from master JPEG. all of these should now be the album pick
-close all stacks, the JPEG will be the one showing up on top for that album.
RB
More here: [Aperture RAW+JPG|http://photo.rwboyer.com/2009/01/14/aperture-2-quick-tip-shooting-rawjp g>

RAW+Jpeg Thumbnail Viewing Problems

A bit confusing...
I shoot RAW+Jpeg. My Jpeg's are B&W by in-camera choice, I have a Canon 5D w/ Picture Styles.
I import into Aperture from the CF card. It shows only the RAW pix, as it should.
When I browse the Project folder for these new pictures, select them, and choose New Version From Master JPEG, the Jpeg's come in stacked with their RAW counterparts, and they appear in thumbnail not as B&W but same as RAW color converted. If I unstack, there is no change of the Jpeg to B&W. If I view the Jpeg in the Viewer, finally I see it as B&W. This doesn't work for me. I want the B&W thumbnail.
On the other hand. If I have set these pix in an album, and then select New Version From Master JPEG while in that album, the Jpegs come in individually, showing as B&W....BUT.... since they are in the Album and not the Project, they are not represented in the Project folder, and any Keywording that I may have done in the Album is unsearchable. So I essentially get the view that I want of the thumbnail but Aperture doesn't really know it's there.
To make matters worse, an earlier Project that I drew the Jpegs into does seem to show the Jpeg thumbnail stacked with the RAW, and in B&W as desired. I can't remember if the B&W thumbnails came in that way at first of Aperture finally got around to properly representing them as such at a later launching.
I have been encountering some frustrating inconsistency with this application, and am getting very very tired of not just being able to use it without having to track down why it's not operating properly every time I import.
I still don't know why the Library 5-star smart folder only shows the same small portion of select pics, when I have continued to add many more 5 star ratings in subsequent Project folders.
My Referenced image folders, and my vaults, have been very secure.
.......todd

Hey Karen,
Thanks for coming in on this, you were very helpful w/ directing me to bringing up the Jpegs from behind the RAWs with New Version from Master JPEG in one of my other queries.
I want to reference your comments as paragraphs 1), 2), 3), 4), if I might, so as to shorten the text here:
1) My images are in a Project folder, from there I created an Album.
While in the Album I selected all the images, and clicked on New Version from Master JPEG. The JPEGs came in seperately, i.e. not stacked with the RAWs, and the thumbnail appearance was B&W, which is what I was hoping for.
I Keyworded all the images in the Album, and then for kicks and confirmation, I tested the keywords in a search, my search was totally baffling.
When I searched for my "B&W" keyword, only the color Raws came forward, why? I don't know, there was no such keyword used on these images.
Also, I discovered that none of the JPEG's were showing up in the Project folder.
Next, I decided to select the RAW pictures in the Project folder. I then applied New Version from Master JPEG, and the Jpegs came up stacked with the RAWs.These JPEGs showed now in both the Project folder and the Album. But the problem for me was that both the RAW and JPEG were in color, identical to each other.
When I unstacked these stacks and Keyworded either in the Project or Album folders, indeed, they were searchable. But mind you, no thumbnail was to be seen that was B&W in appearance, and this was unacceptable, I count on being able to see the B&W thumbnail.
And, more confusingly, other earlier Albums have not all had the same problems with bringing in B&W thumbnails.
2) The smart album that I'm refering to here is the Library root select folder that has the 5 stars. It should have no problem collecting my 5 star images, wherever they are. Or so I thought. But quite a few 5 star images were not making it into this smart folder.
But now, since your writing, I went into a couple of Projects and had to manipulate the images to appear, which they finally did in both the smart folder in a Project, as well as the root "Select" folder in the Library. So now they show up in both places as they should. The solution was to make sure that the 5-star image was the Pick of a stack for it to show up in a "select" smart folder. I'm a little disappointed that stack internals seem to escape the search. I think this problem needs to be remedied. Until then, I guess I have to just be more diligent.
3) Thank you, I'll hit this link a little later, I have paid some attention to this site, it's been really helpful.
4) I did go to this site, unfortunately nothing here has helped my problem with the Jpegs.
.......todd

PSE5 - Stacking RAW / JPEG Files

With my Nikon D80, I am starting to shoot a lot assignments using the combination of RAW + JPEG files.
I am using the auto-staking feature of PSE5 when adding files and folders, with the expectation that it would quickly stack the RAW+JPEG combinations into a single stack for each pair.
Instead, I'm getting a frustratingly wide range of results. In some cases, the RAW and JPEGs are not stacked, and the stack has to be manually created.
In other instances, I'll get 2, 4, or 3 pairs of photos in a single stack and have to divide them with the little scissors tool. These combinations are not necessarily rapid exposures. I haven't been using the multiple exposure setting on the D80.
All in all, this is adding to my workflow instead of expediting it. Is there not some way to set parameters to establish how auto-stacks are determined?
On a similar subject, is there any way to tell PSE5 WHICH of the files I want to see on the top of the stack? I'd rather see the RAW for starters, but then sometimes, I might want to see the JPEGs instead. Is there some way to set / switch the top photo for all of them at once?
Thanks,
--PS

Hi Paul,
the automatic stacking feature finds similar pictures. Most of the time it works well for RAW/JPG files but sometimes (e.g. sunset pictures with a bad automatic white balance assumption for the RAW) it won't find the pairs. You then have to do it manually as you have described it.
In the stacking window you can drag your preferred file to the first position for being the top picture. After creating the stacks you can change the top picture by opening the stack, right clicking on your preferred picture and choosing "Make top picture" (or similar, I have the german version, so I don't know the english menu text) in the stacking sub menu.
I had the same problem and know I decided to move all JPGs to an unmanaged folder, so I won't see all my images doubled and I can stack only those images that I want to stack.
Michael

Viewing raw + jpeg problem

I shoot raw + jpeg. When I import from camera or from folders on my hard drive, both the raw and jpeg versions are transferred, but I only see the raw. There is no extension, but I can tell it is the raw because of the info in the metadata. I know the jpeg transferred, because it is in the packet, and I can make it appear by using the "copy from master jpeg" feature. But that duplicates the image in the packet.
The real problem is that I have thousands of processed jpeg images that share the same filename as the raw, except for the extension (.cr2 for raw and .jpg for jpeg). But when I import, I only see the raw version and not all the cropped, color corrected one. And when I shoot raw + jpeg, I don't see the jpeg. I want to view both, because sometimes the camera jpeg version is sufficient, and then I don't need to post process the raw.
How can we view both the raw and jpeg when shooting raw + jpeg and when importing images that have the same name for both (such as 051204photo01.cr2 and 051204photo01.jpg)? Until I can figure this out, I've had to stop importing all photos and using Aperture, because I am unable to easily view the thousands of processed photos I've created (only the raw version is displayed, though both are in the packet)
Paul

Sam:
It works like a charm. Here's how I tested. I shot 2 photos as Raw+Jpeg. I then put the CompactFlash card in my reader and confirmed there were 4 pics (2 raw, 2 jpeg, with the versions sharing the same name but different extension). First I imported the normal way by dragging the folder into Aperture. I end up seeing only 2 photos. Next I copied from the flash card to my hard drive and added a folder called JPEG Folder inside the folder (at the same level as the photos). I moved the jpeg pics into it and left the raw outside. This gave me an outer folder that contained 2 raw pics and a folder (containing the 2 jpegs). I dragged that into Aperture, and I now see all 4 photos. I used smart stack to separate them into 2 pairs. Unfortunately the thumbnails don't include extensions (we should have the option to turn them on). But using the inspector, I found that the raw was the first one, with the jpeg to its right. I can now compare them and delete one or the other. As a test I did just that, trashing the raw version of one pic and the jpeg of the other.
You mentioned that the project needs to contain all files. I noticed when I first stumbled on this problem that both versions are indeed in the packet. We just aren't able to see the jpeg version on import if it's in the same folder as the raw. By moving it into a separate album, Aperture then "sees" the jpeg version that is there all the time. This seems the only sensible way to deal with the files when shooting raw+jpeg.
Paul

Problems exporting RAW + JPEG Pairs

I have imported my images as RAW + JPEG Pairs (JPEG is Master)
When I try to export originals, there are two problems:
1. Aperture exports both the JPEG and the RAW file. Is there anyway to force it to export just the file that is set as the master (in this case, the JPEG)?
2. More problematic--the RAW files are exported in the correct orientation, but the JPEG files that have been shot in portrait orientation are rotated 90 degrees clockwise. Is there anyway to prevent this?
Thanks in advance for your help
Gordon

There's an easier way:
Open the Aperture library contents (ctrl-click, select "show pkg contents"), and navigate to masters/year/month/day/downloads, and delete the raw file(s).
You can view by kind, and delete all the raw files in a project this way; just make sure you haven't assigned any of the raw files as master.
So far, I have not observed any adverse effects to the Aperture database, but they may be coming. I always archive all the files off-line before importing to Aperture, no nothing is completely irreversible.
It would still be nice, as another poster said somewhere, to render a raw file as a new jpg master, and then delete the raw, but I use raws so rarely, that deleting the ones I don't use gives me 90% of the disk savings.

Raw + JPEG problem

When I set my Nikon D50 to Raw + JPEG the JPEG files will not show up in Import only the RAW (NEF) files do. I have to move the JPEG files to another folder for Aperture Import to recognize them. If the Raw and JPEG files remain in the same folder than only the Raw files are recognized. Has anyone else had this problem?

In the german speaking forum www.apertureforum.de the same situation was asked (if I understood you right): http://www.apertureforum.de/viewtopic.php?t=99&highlight=raw+jpg
Select the imported picture an select "New Version From Master JPG" (Alt-J)
Does that work for you?

RAW JPEG PROBLEM I'm new to Aperture and neglected to mark RAW JPEG pairs when I imported (from iPhoto). Now I have two images for each photo. Help!! How can I change this?

I’m new to Aperture and neglected to mark RAW+JPEG pairs when I imported (from iPhoto). Now I have two images for each photo. Help!! How can I change this?

How did you import from iPhoto? If you saw the Import panel with raw -jpeg pairs, then you probably did not import your iPhoto library as library, but as files, and then you will see plenty of duplicates - previews, thumbnails, originls, edited versions. If that should be the case, it would be better to delete the import from iPhoto and to import your iPhoto library again, but this time using "File > Import > Library".
Only that would require compatible versions of iPhoto and Aperture. What are your Aperture and iPhoto version numbers?

RAW+JPEG Workflow issues

When shooting RAW+JPEG Im having trouble finding a good workflow (Canon 5D Mark II, LR 2.2, Windows), whether or not I import with LR treating the RAW and JPEG files as separate photos. (Im drawn to shooting RAW+JPEG as the Mark IIs JPEGs are often very good.)
One major problem with importing RAW and associated JPEG as one unit (i.e., not as separate photos) is what I consider to be a bug: when I export metadata and ratings, they are applied only to the RAW file and not to the JPEG. Is there a setting I havent noticed or an easy workaround?
Also, after importing as one unit, it would be very convenient to be able to separate the RAW+JPEG into separate photos (e.g., for editing and export). Why does the combined vs. separate approach have to be decided on at import time without being able to change it later?
In trying to work around the above problems, I import as separate photos and try to treat each RAW+JPEG pair as a unit. As some have suggested, perhaps the best approach is to create a stack for each RAW+JPEG pair (easy with auto-stack). But this approach is very limited because you cant really treat a stack as a unit, i.e.:
- quickly apply metadata and ratings to a stack
- delete all photos in a stack
- move a stack for sorting and into collections
You can work around these limitations by unstacking each pair and selecting both, but thats a bit clumsy.
Any advice or info would be appreciated.
js

I think I already commented on that in an earlier post.
ACR until quite recently had a very bad habit of bad colors by default... why would I want to create a .jpg from that ugly RAW using LR when they whole purpose of having the .jpg was to have some reference of 'reasonably close to what I'm after.' Or perhaps you needed some quick prints, and don't feel like messing with tweaking colors in RAW at the moment... and camera generated .jpg is 'good enough' with just some simple minor adjustments.
The new profiles are a huge improvement, but at times I still shoot both... just to check up that its still doing what I expect of it. And most of all, I want to use LR to manage ALL my images. Stacks are a handy way to hide the clutter if that's what you want to call it... their functionality just isn't what you'd expect to be there.
Others may have their own reason for wanting to use both. But again... I'm not arrogant enough to presume that everyone should be doing things just as I do, that's the beauty of options - it makes the program more powerful for a wider userbase. If options like this are more difficult to implement than the GND or adjustment brushes... then perhaps some poor initial decisions were made in how they based LR in the first place.
Besides... it wouldn't be as much of a 'hassle' if the proper tools were in LR in the first place. ;)
Plus, aren't there ways to filter so you only see RAW if that's what you are after? I honestly don't know, because I personally don't see the 'duplicate' files as a hassle - though their management could be eased... which I think was the intent of all the suggestions.

Import RAW+JPEG to different folders

I have been playing around and can't find the answer I need, please help...
I shoot photos in RAW+JPEG and, therefore, have two files for each image in folders on my memory cards. I now have AutoImporter set to automatically import all files form the card to a subfolder within Pictures called Auto Import. I would like to add a folder action or script of some sort on Auto Import that would take the JPEGs and move them to a different folder automatically after import (addition to this folder.
My goal here is to split the RAW from JPEG into separate folders so that I can have Time Machine and iDisk back up just the JPEGs, leaving the RAW only for editing in Aperture.
I am pretty new to Mac and not very familiar with scripts or folder actions but I can muddle through. I looked around Automator but could not see any action that might work.
Thanks for any help.

Hopefully, I'm not hijacking this thread but I've been asking friends who use Aperture this question and not getting answers.
I shoot the NEF (RAW) + JPEG option on my Nikon D300. I used to shoot straight RAW for years but my wife, who is a scrapbooker, was getting annoyed at how difficult it was for her to get JPEG versions of the pictures she wants to print for her projects. I also like to put photo-intensive trip reports up on my blog about our trips to Disney theme parks (my hobby is shooting pictures at Disney Theme parks). I found it a nice side benefit to be able to just grab the JPEG and upload since the quality wasn't as important since it was a small picture anyway.
Well, after shooting a few TB of pictures, it has gotten IMPOSSIBLE to keep track of my photos using a file structure as my organizational method.
So, a few of my friends convinced me to go Mac and go Aperture. I haven't installed Aperture yet not imported any photos yet using iPhoto and went straight to the Nikon Transfer software as I tried to determine whether to go Aperture of some other package.
I've now decided to use Aperture, but I still have the overall problem of what to do with my JPEG + RAW. I want to keep both but with them both imported into the current folder with Nikon Transfer and possibly the same behavior with Aperture doing the importing, that won't work with all those duplicates.
I know you all were asking the original poster WHY they were wanting both when it's so easy to get a JPEG out of Aperture. So, for me it's just simply because it's easier for my wife to get her pictures if I don't have to teach her how to use the software or I have to stop what I'm doing to export them out for her.
What suggestions do the experts on here have for the scenerio I face. I really am a clean slate except for the few hundred pictures I imported to free up card space on my last trip in May. But, I now have a stack of card needing importing and need guidance on methodology

"Error while relocating" after deleting RAW from RAW+JPEG pairs (Important FYI)

This is not a question, but something I recently discovered that I think will be important for the Aperture community.
Not too long ago, I asked a question about how to remove the RAW files from RAW+JPEG pairs. The concensus was that it couldn't be done through Aperture, but that one could delete them through the Finder. The answer I got (and that has popped up in other threads on similar topics) was "it's probably not wise, but as far as I know, it won't have an adverse effect." I don't think any response along these lines has been able to point to a specific problem that can arise from such a "hack." Well, I found one today...
It appears that if a user uses Finder to "break" RAW+JPEG pairs by deleting the RAW file and leaving the JPEG (and I assume this goes for deleting the reverse), Aperture will NOT be able to "Relocate Originals..." Instead, "Aperture will return the error: Error while relocating (File not Found): "(null)". I ran into this error the other day while trying to change my file structure by relocating all files. I regularly ran into this error, and it was only after some extensive that I was able to narrow it down 100% of the time to the RAW+JPEG pairs I had "broken." I haven't encounterd any other adverse behavior from "breaking" these file pairings, but this one, at least, could be serious.
So, for future reference, I think the response by the Aperture community when someone asks "How do I delete the RAW file from RAW+JPEG" pairs, should be "Use Finder if you must, but please note Aperture will not be able to 'Relocate Originals..
PS This should NOT be understood as a criticism of those who have responded to this question in the past. There's obviously no way to know about these little quirks until one of us stumbles across them. I hope this information will be helpful going forward, both as a caution when deleting one of the pair, and as a possible answer for the "Error while relocating" message.
PPS I don't think I ran across an explanation for this when I originally searched for the error message bolded above.
If someone has already provided this information, my apologies.

Frank Caggiano wrote:
Interesting the last post before this one you posted was back in May 2011 Removing RAW, keeping JPG?
Thanks for that thread. That helps jog ye olde memory. As such, I would edit my original thread to read "The concensus I gathered from researching multiple responses to questions similar to mine was that it couldn't be done through Aperture*, but that it was possible from Finder though highly inadvisable." I won't bother recreating my research at the time (not even sure I could, since it was more than two years ago), but suffice it to say that the thread you've linked was not my sole encounter with this problem. I do appreciate that you've reminded me that this was not something I had done solely through numerous posts on Apple Discussions. I imagine I likely spent time reading multiple posts here and elsewhere, uncovering the concensus (which i think is still a fair term) that it could not be done through Aperture*, could be through Finder, but was inadvisable.
*This is still accurate, afaik. You cannot delete the pair from a RAW+JPEG pair in Aperture. Exporting, then deleting in Finder, then reimporting is still not something "done in [entirely] Aperture."
Frank Caggiano wrote:
No one actually told you to delete anyting in in the Finder you came up with this yourself as your own solution
This comes from the critical mistake on my part of not making clear that I was paraphrasing multiple responses rather than saying "Bob told on a Monday that i should..." That is one huge mea culpa and I'd edit it if I could. To be clear, my comment that "it's probably not wise, but as far as I know, it won't have an adverse effect" is a paraphrase of multiple answers to the broad question dealing with how Aperture handles files that have been deleted in Finder. At the time, it was known that you could delete a file in Finder, that Aperture could be made to accept that, that it might cause issues further down the road, but that those issues were unkown. I paraphrased that but failed to make it clear that's what I was doing. Again, my apologies.
Frank Caggiano wrote:
So I'm not really sure what it is you are coming back here now to say? There was no 'consensus' to do this, it was your own 'solution'
In this respect, I think you've misunderstood me. At the time I made this post, I still was not seeing a direct connection between deleting files in Finder and adverse consequences in Aperture (or perhaps I should say my searches did not turn up such a connection). As such, I made this post to provide the community with clear evidence of why one should not delete one-of-a-pair files in Finder. Again, I may have simply missed the thread that detailed that to do so would result in a null error when relocating Masters. That said, in July 2013 I had been pulling my hair out trying to figure out why I was getting the null error and I did not see a thread that asked "have you deleted files in Finder" as a way to troubleshoot.
Hopefully, I've cleared up any confusion now. To bring this all back around to my original point for the thread, I intended it to (1) offer a more direct way to troubleshoot the null error on relocating Masters, and (2) to offer a cautionary tale for those who choose to delete one of the RAW+JPEG pair in Finder. There are better (though more time- and space-consuming) ways to get it done, and my original post should help demonstrate why.

Lightroom 1.4.1 won't read RAW or RAW+JPEG from Canon Rebel Xsi

I use Windows. I started with LIghtroom 1. Technical support said Lightroom 1.4.1 update would let allow me to import RAW and RAW+JPEG files from Canon Rebel Xsi into Lightroom. I downloaded the update. Lightroom still will not recognize RAW or JPEG+RAW photos taken with my Canon Rebel Xsi. Lightroom will read straight JPEG photos taken with this camera. Any suggestions as to how I can fix this (e.g. be able to import RAW and RAW+JPEG files)? Sorry if there is a simple thing to fix to this or if I could have found the solution somewhere else on this site. I am a Lightroom novice and have been struggling with this issue for some time now. Thanks in Advance.

Thanks everyone for all your help! I am now able to import the RAW files. Steve and Don especially thanks so much! I am posting my solution in case someone out there has had the same problem.
In the past, using the prompt generated from within LR, I downloaded the update and ran the install. However using Don's information I realized the splash screen indicated 1.1 and the number did not match the build # provided by Don.
Based on this information, I went to the Adobe site, reran the download via the Adobe site (not LR) and reran the install. Of note, this install process gave different screens from when I ran install from the files downloaded accessed via the LR prompt. The biggest difference is that this time I got Adobe directions for how to execute the update. I next confirmed that I had the update files on the hard drive, opened the file as directed by Adobe and the install updated. However I was still getting the LR 1.1 splash screen.
Based on information posted elsewhere, I determined that I needed to delete the LR icon from my desktop. I moved "LR 1.4.1" from the start menu to the desktop. I now launch LR 1.4.1 when I hit the LR icon and I have successfully downloaded a boatload of RAW files. Thanks All! You are geniuses!

Can Raw+JPEG be handled in Aperture 3 as it was in Aperture 2?

One of the things I thought Aperture 2 did much better than Lightroom was the way it handled images shot as raw+jpeg. In Aperture 2, both the raw and the jpeg were imported, but the jpeg was hidden. I could write click on an image, and choose "New Version," "New Version from Master," or "New Version from Master JPEG." That is, unless I created a new version from the Master JPEG, I didn't see it.
I'd like to get Aperture 3 to work the same way. But the new raw+jpeg import doesn't seem to allow that. I can choose to import only raw or only jpeg, but that leaves the other format out completely. I can choose to import both, and set either the raw, the jpeg, or both as masters. If I choose to import both, and set the raw as the master, I don't see an option that will let me access the jpeg image, should I wish to. If I set both as the masters, then my browser view has every image I've taken duplicated, since there's a version for each master. I could stack those, with the raw as the stack pick, but that seems to be as close as I can come to the Aperture 2 model. Again, am I missing something?

-In the image browser select the Raw images you wish to work with as jpegs.
-Control+click and set jpeg as Master.
-In Search field of the image browser, enter ".jpg" to display only images with the jpeg extension and hide all Raw files.
-Perform the functions you want (e.g., creating a Light Table with the jpegs). Export, etc. as desired.
-To re-display Raw and hide the jpegs, select them, then Control+click and reset Raw as Master.
-Be sure to clear the ".jpg" you entered into the search field so you can again see the Raw files.

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