10.4.8 Combo Install on my Internal HD won't Boot!

I've posted before about one of my internal Hard Drives not booting. The Hard Drive works, and shows that it can be Booted thru System Preferences/Start up Drive , as well as thru the Install Disk, YET, will not actually Boot... it decides to boot on antoher smaller, older drive.
After a week of fighting with this issue, I finally got the Bigger, newer Hard Drive to Boot, after zeroing it out, and reinstalling OSX 4.0, and Migrating my back up FireWire (which will boot (10.4.7))
While using the less prefered smaller Start-Up Drive, I Downloaded the 10.4.8 Combo, and installed it onto the Internal HD that I would rather use. I'm assuming there is a good reason to upgrade to 10.4.8, which is why I wanted to upgrade this HD, YET it once again fails to boot!!
Any ideas???

find a way to update the "driver" for that OSX version on that hard drive. i'd start there first.

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