10000 FPS Slow Motion Questions

I am shooting at 10000 fps using the Sony HVR-V1U. I am attempting to achieve a smooth slow motion shot. Final cut shows the footage as being very jerky and blurry. Does Final Cut support high fps and if so how do I import it properly so that I can either slow down the footage to play back smoothly or change the playback speed in Final Cut?
Thanks

Uh...that camera cannot shoot 10000fps. The max it can shoot is 30fps. The SHUTTER can be switched to 1000 (but not 10,000 I don't think), but that is not the FRAME RATE, it is the SHUTTER speed. Two very different things.
Final cut shows the footage as being very jerky and blurry.
That is what a high shutter rate tends to do.
Does Final Cut support high fps
Not 10,000fps. Not that it matters, you didn't shoot 10,000fps.
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I have a new helmet cam (Go Pro HD Hero). I have been playing around with the 5 formats for video. I did a 30 second shot with each of the 5 formats. FCP would not recognize 2 of the formats I tried to bring into Final Cut. The two formats are both of the 60 fps formats. Any thoughts? All captured as mp4.

Ok so the 60 fps formats (resolutions) are not recognized. This seems so strange because the other 3 resolutions shot by the camera import just fine. The 60 fps are not recognized:
1080p = 1920x1080 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, 15 Mbit/s data rate
960p = 1280x960 pixels (4:3), 30 fps, 12 Mbit/s data rate
*720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, 15 Mbit/s data rate*
720p = 1280x720 pixels (16:9), 30 fps, 8 Mbit/s data rate
*WVGA = 848x480 pixels (16:9), 60 fps, 8 Mbit/s data rate*
Note this is in the paperwork with the camera:
Video Format: H.264 compression, saved as Windows- & Mac-compatible MPEG4 (.mp4) file
I am able to bring all 5 test resolution clips I made onto my desktop. They all play with Quicktime, MPEG streamclip.
Here is the camera:
http://www.goprocamera.com/index.php?area=2&productid=29
1- I am having a hard time believing that 2 of these are unreadable by final cut pro. Thoughts?
2- What format using Quicktime or MPEG streamclip do I export as?
3- Any simple tutorials on Cinama tools for slow motion? - I have not used.
This will be used on a vacation in a few days and the footage will be combined/edited with/in a movie with my standard 16x9 footage from my camcorder
Thanks for the help.

Smooth Slow Motion from 50 fps Clip in 50 fps Timeline

If I want 50% smooth slow motion from a 50 FPS video clip, I would normally ask PP to interpret that clip as 25 FPS - that works great.
If however I import the 50 FPS video clip and interprett it as 50 FPS, I would have to set the speed of the video clip in the timeline to 50% to get the same level of slow motion.
The question is - when I follow the latter method, does PP create new frames for the slow motion or is it clever enough to use all the frames from the original 50 FPS video clip? to put it another away, does PP always generate NEW frames for slow motion or does it try to use the frames we are attempting to ignore?
I've done some basic tests and so far I can't see any real difference between the two methods. This leads me to beleive PP is effectively using all of the original 50 frames when the 50 fps video clip is imported into a 50 fps timeline and then slowed down in the timeline by 50%. - if this is the case, well done PP!!! If this is not the case, then it would be a welcomed enhancement in future releases.
I guess what you are all wondering is why would I want to import a 50 fps video clip into a 50 fps timeline and then slow it down in the timeline - well, as a wedding Videographer, it is simply because some parts of the video need to be in slow motion and other parts like messages and speeches need to be interpreted at normal speed. If playback in the timeline is at normal speed, i find it simpler to slow down the "Walking Down the Isle" clips rather than having to speed up the speeaches and messages.
In short, when importing 50 fps video for smooth slow motion, are both the following methods equally effective in terms of smooth motion?
Method 1: Import the 50 fps video clip into 25 fps timeline
Method 2: import the 50 fps video clip into 50 fps timeline and set the speed of the video clip in the timeline to 50% - I'm assuming PP does not generate new frames and gets them from the original 50 fps file instead..
To put it another way, does PP ALWAYS attempt to generate new fromes when slowing down video in the timeline? When extra frames are available in the original video file, does PP try to get the extra frames from that file instead of generating new ones?

I recorded 2 video clips of the same scene. The camera was panning from right to left.
First video clip - recorded at 25 fps
second video clip - recorded at 50 fps
Both video clips recorded at the same panning speed of the same scene.
1. If I import the 25 fps video into 25 fps timeline and slow it down by 50%, the exported video looks jerky.
2. If I import the 50 fps video clip into 25 fps timeline, the exported video looks smooth motion.
3. If I import the 50 fps video clip into 50 fps timeline, slow it down in the timeline by 50%, and export the video as 25 fps then the result is still smooth motion.
I've only done the experiment once and may have to repeat to be absolutely sure.

New Sequence Question - for slow motion video

Hi,
I'm a very new user of Premier. I've recently had issues with choppy playback of my preview videos. After much research I believe the issue was down to two things. Firstly my sequence did not match my input clip, I had it set to my desired output. Secondly, I was editing video across my network, rather than bringing it locally to my PC. I've fixed the latter issue by copying video files to my local machine and then moving them back onto the network once I've finished editing.
The advice out there essentially seems to be to match your sequence to your primary input video. I've done that and it helps. However, it's raised a big question for me. My input video is from a GoPro and is at 1080p 50fps. I ultimately want my output video to be slowed down to 25fps (resulting in a constant slow motion effect throughout the entire sequence).
If my sequence settings are set to match the input clip (50fps) and I slow the video down by 50%, will that result in an unsmooth video? My basic understanding is that if I slow 50fps video down by 50% then Premier will have to double the amount of frames. Where as previously, if I slowed it down by 50% Premier had enough frames to play with as the output video was 25fps.
Hopefully my question makes sense! Any advice on what the best approach is? Or is this a complete non-issue when it comes to exporting the video (providing I export to a 25fps formart)?
Thanks,

I think you said it OK, you are just missing the right words to do what you want. Let's walk through this for you, and for others that might read it later.
If you take a 50 frame per second video and put it into a sequence created from it, then slow it down 50% it doubles up each frame to achieve slow motion. Not what you want.
If you take a 50 frame per second video and put it into a 25 fps sequence, it drops half the frames to play at normal speed. Not what you want.
What you want to do is interpret the 50 fps video to 25 fps, then drop it into a 25 fps sequence. Each frame will play at 25 fps and generally be smooth as silk.
I don't have any 50 fps clips handy, but here are examples of taking 60 fps to 30 fps. (Excuse the idiot way that we Americans do things. Our 30 is actually 29.97 etc)
First, right click on the clip in the Project Panel, select Modify, and Interpret Footage. Then change the 50 to 25 - similar to this image:

Slow-motion videos do not play as edited (fps) on Mac

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I just received my iPhone 6 yesterday, and have been playing with the slow-motion video feature. I moved a few over to my computer using Image Capture, and they played fine in their slow-motion, 240 fps. However, the problem is that it doesn't play the video as it was edited on my iPhone (parts of it sped up, and parts of it slowed down). It plays the whole video in slow-motion, which can be a little annoying watching an entire video.
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I'm new to shooting video with cameras that have manual options, so I'm not exactly sure how I should set up the camera settings. It's a Canon 60D. Basically in the video I want to make, I'd like to have a lot of normal speed to slow motion transitions. Some of the video footage will be very fast paced, so I'd like to slow it down as much as possible without making the video appear jumpy. I assume I should change the frame rate on the camera to 60 fps. Is there anything else I should adjust within the settings?
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The speed of your camcorder doesn't matter. You can apply Time Stretch to any video clip.
There's a limit to how much you can slow it, of course. With that camera and Premiere Elements, you're not going to be able to slow down a water spray so you an see the individual droplets or anything like that. But, if you combine TimeStretch and Frame Blend, you should get very good results slowing your footage down a certain amount.
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Tried to shoot 60 FPS for slow motion, but ...

I have a DVCPro HD clip, 720P, 59.94 frames per second. I was hoping to get a medium slow-motion effect in FCP. So I imported it and put it in a 23.97 frames per second sequence. It shows at regular speed. Hmmm...
I looked at the clip in the Viewer. I found a part of the action that lasts one second, and I counted 60 frames for that second. But in the Sequence, that same action shows only 24 frames.
Then I got a brilliant idea! I used Modify - Speed to slow it down to 40%. I hoped I would see all 60 frames of that one-second bit of action. But instead of showing all 60 frames, FCP uses only about 24 frames, and copies each frame once or twice to stretch out the action. So the action looks jumpy instead of smooth.
A friend last last month shot something with the Panasonic HVX200 at DVCProHD 59.54 FPS, and he got a smooth slow motion effect in FCP. But he moved out and isn't answering his phone.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!

I owe everyone an apology, because I gave the wrong information about the video file. As you will recall, I was frustrated that it appeared to play at only 23.97 frames per second in Final Cut Pro, even though I thought I had shot it at 60 fps. Yesterday I discovered why it appeared to play at a different frame rate, but the reason was so bizarre, so unbelievable, that I began to doubt my own sanity.
Friends, the video clip changes frame rate in the middle! Yes, it does. You see, I had been looking at a portion of the shot with the lower frame rate; later in the same shot, the frame rate increased to 60 fps. You may ask, how is this possible? I do not know. I only know that I shot it with the little Sanyo HD1000 camcorder, which records as AVCHD (h.264), and the clip changed to a slower frame rate when the shot got darker, then back to 60 fps when the shot got brighter. Apparently the camcorder reacted to the lack of light by decreasing the frame rate, in order to have time to gather more light for each frame.

Hi. Quick question I am working with Panasonic GH3 footage and it is playing back in slow motion?

Hi. Quick question I am working with Panasonic GH3 footage shot using .MOV wrapper with their IPB 50mbps and All-Intra 72MBPS codecs and they are playing back in slow motion in Sg CC. The footage works fine in PP CC and I have no clue on how to fix it. Is this a bug or do I a have a setting wrong some place?

Yes it turns red this is silly PP and AE have no problem with playback for these codecs. So it is indeed Sg not handling the codec correctly and not my system?
What if I transcoded it to something else other than the previous what would you reccommend?
I was going to transcode to ProRes but 5DtoRGB does not work on Windows with GH3 codecs.
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Is there a way to reset Sg back to defaults settings globaly. I tried to many settings trying to fix the playback and may have left something in the wrong state.
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Question about Slow Motion and Running Times

I am using iMovie '08 to help my boss make a video of the pump and suction cup assembly he has created. He asked me if I knew how to slow it down to a frame by frame type of shot. He also asked if there is any way to have a running time on the video both in real time and the slow motion shot. Can anyone help me?
At work I am using a Mac Pro with 4 G of RAM and 2x2.8 GHz Quad-Core Intel processor.

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Slow-motion (high shutter speed) camera to video my golf swing with 240fps

What is the best model to choose? Would also like a shutter speed of at least 1/2000. I had a Canon SD4000IS that did the trick but was lost (don't ask how!).

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Are bursts and slow motion videos transfered as they are to a PC

I wasn't sure how to ask this question in short. I have an iPhone 5s and a Windows computer. When I take a burst photo, how does it work when I transfer the photos/videos directly to my computer? (not going through iTunes) Do the bursts save as individual pictures or are they lost? or maybe you can only see them on your iPhone? Also with slow motion videos, I know they don't save as slow motion unless you save them again as if that was real life capture. I do believe that they become slow motion again if i put them back on my phone, as the format is probably the same. Is this true?

Premiere Pro just doesn't do slow motion very well, especially not with 24 fps footage. You can help correct that:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1369265?tstart=60

Slight slow-motion for music video with Canon 6D

Hello.
I'm wondering how I should capture and edit my video to get slight slow-motion in a music video I'm creating. Obviously I would need a proportionally sped up track, like 120%. That I can do.
The question is, what frame rates should I be using? Shouldn't it matematically fit? Like capturing in 29.97 FPS with ~120% track and editing in 25 FPS. How can I do this so the result is perfectly smooth?

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How to get good slow motion w/FCPX?

Okay, so I've been trying to get some good slow motion video. I'm new to this whole video thing, but I'm fortunate enough to be able to have some cool toys even though I don't know how to use them yet! Anyway, here are my questions (prefaced by some details to help you answer my questions!).
What I'm working with:
Two cameras
1) GoPro shooting at 720p, 60 FPS
2) Canon Vixia HF G10 shooting at 1080i, 60 FPS
- In case my terminology is wrong, the GoPro shoots in 60p, and the Canon shoots at 60i....not sure the best way to describe it.
Editing with:
- FCPX
- I don't have Motion 5 or Compressor yet, but I can get it if its necessary for any reason
Goal that I'm working toward:
- I want to get some smooth "creamy" slow motion footage every now and then when the video I'm making calls for it.
- Here's a couple examples of the type of slow motion I'm hoping to end up with:
- (right about at the 3:10 point)
Problem I'm having:
- With the GoPro (60p), I can only slow down to 50% speed before it starts to look choppy. Slower than that Optical Flow will work a little bit, but it still looks very amateur.
- With the Canon (60i, but much higher quality video), I can barely slow it down at all without it looking choppy and sloppy.
Questions:
- Am I doing something wrong?
- Do I need to download other software?
- Anybody willings to give me a step by step instruction?!
- I'm stumped...any help will be great!
Thanks!

I'm a bit short having time for my tests, but what I found out so far.
• avoid any 'natural motion blurr' in your recordings
• if optional on your device, select super-short shutter speed (<1/1000th), depending on 'action' in front of cam (ever wondered why those demos are preferred in bright sunlight? )
• avoid too high 'angle speed' = too fast too close: if the picture content changes too fast btw. frame#1 and frame#2 the eye is not able to blend the content = stutter
• Optical Flow: excellent on small angle speed, failing on fast angle speed or rotation:
watch my short demo here (YT-link) testing speeds and blending modes:
(recording 720/60p, ~1/1000th shutter speed, Project setting 25p)
• notice the perfect blending of motion far away from cam (player girl in green)
• notice the unwanted 'warp' effects around the player in blue close to cam, esp. legs
• notice the 'wobble' of rotating ball in 10% slowmo ... that is beyond Optical Flows skills
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=> imho, the actual vers. of Twixtor4FCPX isn't worth the 300$ (yepp, three HUNDRED) …
and my personal opinion upon marketing: a plugin shouldn't be more expensive than its host

How about using a 60fps video for a smooth slow motion effect in a 30fps project ?

Hey all,
I happen to have a video camera that is able to shoot either in 720p/60fps or 720p/30fps.
As you guessed it, 60 fps mode is very useful for action sports when you want to do some slow motion effect running very smoothly.
I have few questions I would love to be answered, and I was not able to find answers till now.
Here they are :
1/ If I want my final video file to be, let's say, 25 fps, is it mandatory that my project is 25 fps too ?
What will happen if I do a 30fps project and that I export to a 25fps file ? Does Premiere simply remove some extra frames ? Or will it lead to a longer video ? What consequence on the final result if frames are removed ? I mean, will I be able to see any difference or will the difference remain theorical ?
2/ Let's say I have both 30fps and 60fps videos. I set my project to 30fps. If I import my 60fps video to the timeline, it will be adjusted to 30fps and some frames disappear to keep the duration the same. Okay, this is clear to me.
But now, what if I import my 60fps to the timeline, but set the speed to 50% ? Will Premiere apply the 50% to the original file (therefore I should have all the frames displayed on the timeline : 60/2=30 fps), or to the 30fps-adjusted file of the timeline, leading to some jerky footage?
3/ If I want to use my 60fps for slow motion purpose in my 30fps project, would it be a good idea to right-click on this file in the project windows, going to the "modify" menu to set the image frequency to 30fps ?
Because while doing so, if I drag the file to the timeline, I noticed it would last 2 times longer (resulting in a slow motion video) Does that mean that ALL the frames of the original video are displayed ? Can someone tell me what exactly does Premiere ?
I would be very grateful if someone could tell me what are the correct settings to chose in order to realise the best slow motion videos as possible.
Thanks in advance !

With due respect... this does not answer my question and does not help me that much , but anyway, thank you for the very constructive answer ^^.
I'm not sure I would even have considered doing this by myself...
I hope I do not get this kind of answer because you feel like my question was silly or unpolite... To my mind this was a pretty serious question.
Shooternz, next time you need to go 150 km far away from where you are, go by feet rather than with a car, I'm sure you will have plenty of satisfaction too. Just cross the fingers for you not to be in a hurry while it's raining outside.
Well, I may be naive but i thought some experts already had the answer to this (I guess I'm not the only one who intend to do some slo mo), and would have been kind enough to share this knowledge with me. That's what sometimes happens in communities.
Please note I do not intend others to do the job for me, I'm just asking if someone already knows the answer.
I asked this question because I couldn't find any documentation about this, and I guess asking on internet was the next step, as testing would be like the last resort, being very time consuming.
It was easy to check the effect of dragging a file to the timeline to see if it played normally or not, but it's definitely not to count and compare each frame of some sample file to find if some are lacking, or have been doubled or what....
I assume I would be very happy with just a simple theorical answer either...
So once again, if someone already has been into such questions, I would really pleased him or her to share or report what they experienced. Thanks in advance.

16:9 JES deinterlacer slow motion

I am trying to use JES deinterlacer to slow down a clip but cant seem to get the output in 16:9. I have followed the instructions below and keep checking the 16:9 box but the output is always squashed 4:3. I've tried fiddling with the options and cant seem to find an answer.
Does anyone have any ideas?
From JES instructions.,..
Slow-motion and fast-motion: In JES Deinterlacer's Project tab select "Project kind: Standards conversion". Select "Custom" and set "Movie speed: 0.5" for 0.5x slow-motion, 2 for 2x fast-motion and so on for other speeds. You can select speed ratios in the range of 0.1-10x with 0.01 decimal precision (with v2.7.1 the 0.1x may stall and with 0.2x the audio is out of sync. 0.25-10x are OK). THEN set the other options:
For NTSC use "Settings/Height: 480, Width: 720, Frame rate: 29.97".
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I exported the clip as a full quality clip from iMovie5 (had to go back to it after audio trouble importing from my HDR-HC1). I get a .mov file and then use that as an input file for JES. The 'converted' file is a .mov.proj.dv file which looks like a squashed 16:9 in 4:3 window in QT. I tried importing it back into iMovie and it imports as a 4:3 with black side bars - no letterboxing. The project I am working on is a 16:9 HD format.
I havent tried any other exporting yet as I'm fairly sure if they look that way in QT and imovie then that's probably how they are.
I do notice that when I make all the settings in JES, as I outlined in my question post, once I change the aspect ratio to 16:9 and then close that window and open it again, the setting seems to have defaulted back to 4:3. I tried it several times... (Ver 2.7.3 - I think that's the latest)
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