1080 60p

Hi..I have a Sony NEX-FS100 camera and I recently shot a project in 1080 60p because I really like the aesthetic. I imported my AVCHD footage into FCP X.1.1 and transcoded it to AppleProRes 422 (optimized media on import).
For some reason, after creating a project and laying the video into it, my transcoded media seems to be choppy. It's not a shutter issue, I'm almost positive it's a frame rate issue. It's the first time I've used FCPX to import 1080 60P directly, previously I was using ClipWrap and didn't seem to encounter this particular problem.
I'm pretty sure it's not a processor/graphics card/memory issue....8-core/ATI Radeon HD 5770/32 GB RAM.
Does anyone know what may be going on? Thanks.

That's interesting...it only converted it at 59.94, it looks like it optimized it as H.264. Am I reading that wrong? Are you sure there is no way to choose settings when optimizing?
Regardless, this makes sense as to why I'm seeing stuttering.

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Thanks for the response!
I'm guessing you've found ClipWrap2 to be better than competing products [such as AVCHD Converter for Mac, Toast Titanium, or Voltaic].
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But you are probably right to avoid interlaced material.
But will a disk burned at 1080/60i really be interlaced since both fields will have been recorded at the same instant of time when using 1080p60 clips to start with? Especially with recent 240 Hz TV using some form of frame interpolation.
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I have the following 25 s video (according to QT X inspector):
Format: H.264, 1920 x 1080, Millions
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