200G 4200 rpm vs 160G 5400 rpm?

I'm considering a 200G drive for the extra capacity -- it seems like you can never have a drive that's too big. I'd love to be able to partition it for different development/OS environments. But can you get a drive that's too slow? Would I notice the speed difference on a "slower" 4200 rpm drive? Thanks for any thought you might have.

...does anyone know the exact model and - most importantly - the exact >seek< time (and throughput) of the different hard drive models...
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5400 vs. 4200 rpm??

Ok, so I'm THIS close to ordering a new merom mbp. I was thrilled to see that there was a 200GB HD available, but am concerned that there will be a perceivable performance difference between the 4200 rpm 200GB HD and the 5400 rpm 160 GB. I use the computer for work/personal use (no high end graphics work or anything), but imagine we will all be taxing our HDs more and more as digital video formats (ie, itunes movie store) continue to take hold.
I know no one has hands on experience with the new mpbs yet, but does anyone have a sense? Is the extra 40GB worth it?
Thanks,
Steve

I almost ordered my new MBP with a 160gb 5400RPM drive thinking "I'll need all the space I can get, but 4200 is too slow!"..
But I've since changed my order to a 100gb 7200rpm, heres why:
If you think about it, your operating system, programs, "virtual ram", streaming audio/video is all going to be pulled from the internal hard-drive.. And the computer is only as fast as the weakest link in the chain, so if you have a 2.33Ghz system, which is bottle-necked by a slow HDD read/write, you aren't going to be using your system to it's full potential...
The other point is, with firewire 800 now available in the 15" models, you can always buy large hdd's (a lot larger than the biggest 200gb, internal option), to store all of your larger data on anyway...
As I see it, if you are buying a MBP, rather than a MB, you obviously need the extra "oomph" the MBP provides, so my logic makes me think you'd be crazy to go for the slower, or even slowest hdd.
Just my opinion though.

The New Hard Drives - 4200 rpm vs. 5400 rpm?

Hi,
Many thanks in advance for your attention.
The new MacBooks (and MacBook Pros) offer two Hard Drives.
160GB at 5400 rpm
and
200GB at 4200 rpm.
I do a lot of video editing. Isn't the 4200 (slower) HD inferior?
Why would more GB be offered at a slower rpm?
- Ross

Keep in mind that some drives have perpendicular technology in them, improving their performance even if the rpm is slower. the 160 GB 5400 in the current MBP's is one of those.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpendicular_recording

5400rpm's va 4200 rpm's

if I look at the choices for the new macbooks, I see that one with a larger HD has Less rpms . "160GB 5400-rpm drive or 200GB 4200-rpm drive" what is that telling me? Is that telling me that a larger hard drive runs slower?
thank you joanlvh

Hi joanlvh,
It is not noticeable for normal usage, but if you use the macbook for saving and loading large file, importing, converting and exporting movie, maybe the 5400 will make you done faster, that also have faster seek time.
With 4200 rpm, maybe your battery will keep a bit longer, but job done faster on 5400.
My macbook comes with 5400, but when I upgrade to 7200, I notice the increasing performance on moving big file back and forth to my external HD.
Good Luck

200GB hard drive at 4200 rpm

I'm about to purchase a MacBook Pro 15", would like to know the read/write speed of 200 GB 4200 rpm hard drive vs 160GB at 5400 rpm

Actually the response you get from a drive generally depends on how full it is. The fuller a drive gets the slower the overall performance gets. So the 40GB may come into play the more data you have and the 200GB drive may prove to be faster.
Additionally, even though the rotational speed is slower the higher density compensates for this so performance is in fact rather similar in this case.
If you intend on having 100GB or more in your drive then I would opt for the 200GB drive. It'll perform at least the same as the 160GB drive in this case.

320GB Serial ATA @ 4200 rpm

Does anyone have any experience with this MBP drive's performance? I see it spec'd on a model and wonder about it's performance.
Thank you

I was looking at buying one on eBay and the spec listed seemed odd, as it turned out the seller had installed his own 360GB upgrade and it was 5400 rpm - not 4200 rpm as he had it listed.
I did buy this one which has the 7200 rpm drive. The 7200 rpm drive was my preference although the other listed MBP had other features of the listing which made it worth looking at (came with MS Office Pro 08).
Thank you for your feedback.

Using FCE HD with a 200 gb HDD 4200-rpm drives

I am thinking of getting a 15 inch mac bok pro with the 200 gb hard drive
Is the disc speed of 4200 fast enough to run Final Cut Express HD?
I will get 3 gb of RAM as well with the system.
Thanks
Jerry

Hello Jerry,
while it is true that 7200 rpm drives are recommended with video editing, I have just finished editing a project on a friends G4 1.66 Ghz Powerbook with only 512 MB RAM.
The project consisted of roughly 3 hrs of raw video and was stored on an 60 GB LaCie Pocketdrive (4200 rpm) and editing was done in FCP HD 4.5 and After Efects. The ext. hard drive was powered by the FW bus. We encountered no problems whatsoever, although I have to say that we captured to the internal HDD using BTV Pro, then moved the video files to the external drive.
mish

Question about the 300 gb hd with 4200 rpm

I will be purchasing a macbrook pro, but I was wondering is the 300 gb hd laptop that has 4200 rpm speed much slower than the 200 gb hd laptop at 7200 rpm? The extra hd space would really help me out, but I also don't want it to be too slow.

There is a significant difference in a hard drive that spins at 4200 and one that spins at 7200. If you do not want to sacrifice speed, then I suggest you purchase an external drive for your excess storage needs.

Is the 200GB 4200-rpm HDD fast enough to use for Final Cut HD Express?

Just saw the option of having a 200 gb HDD on the MBP
Is this fast enough to work with HD files?
Thanks
Jerry

Of course it is. It will mean slower speeds but a consistent factor (4200 divided by 5400) at most. I tend to tell people if they need extremely powerful video processing software to skip the macbook and get a mac pro. Anything thats going to take an extremely long amount of time on a 5400 isn't going to take all that much longer with 4200 (in fact once loaded into memory, its virtually the same).
So yes it is fast enough but a Mac Pro is even better for high performance video work.

Ibook g4 and rpm speed difference on hard drives?

Hello, I am curious if upgrading my hard drive to a higher/faster rpm drive would take any more power from my computer to run, and if it will be too much work for my logic board to handle without overloading?
It has been a great computer so far, even with only 1.42ghz, but i dont want to make it work so hard that it breaks.
Thanks you.

mac_ad111:
It will not have any noticeable effects. Upgrade to the largest capacity HDD you can afford, as that will give you greater areal density, which along with the increased speed, will make your computer sing. You need a 2.5" PATA/IDE drive. They come in speed up to 320 GB. I suggest you consider 250 GB or 320 GB. The highest speed available is 5400 rpm which will be a big increase over your 4200 rpm dirve. If you plan to install it yourself, please post back for step by step directions and additional tips.
Please do post back with further questions or comments.
cornelius

RPM of the new HDD

Recently my harddisk was replaced.
There two version of the mk8025gas (5400 and 4200 rpm)
Is there a tool so I can find out which rpm the drive is running?

Hi Rene,
I believe the MK8025GAS has a revolution speed of 4200RPM whereas the 5400RPM version is called the MK8026GAX.
Check in device manager which one you have installed. (Or check the BIOS details at start up).
HTH

7200 RPM HD for G4 PB Ti ??00

Hi,
Are there 7200 RPM internal HD's available for my Titanium PowerBook G4 (400 MHz)?
If so, can anyone recommend a good source?
Thanks,
Wm

Hi, Wm. Yes, there are 7200 RPM drives that are compatible with your computer. They range up to a maximum capacity of 100GB, and they are now hard to find. I suspect this is because a) drive manufacturers perceive much greater demand for high-capacity notebook drives than for 7200-RPM notebook drives, at least among buyers of drives using the PATA/ATA-6/ATA-7/ATA-IDE interfaces (all variants and variant designations of the same basic interface type); and b) apparently it's harder to build a high-capacity 7200-RPM drive with any of those interfaces than it is to build one with the SATA interface that nearly all current laptop models use. 7200-RPM SATA drives are readily available in much larger capacities than 100GB
A 100GB drive is now considered small, so no computer manufacturer today is going to build a 100GB drive into a new computer. Nor is any manufacturer going to build the older, slower PATA/ATA-6/ATA-7/ATA-IDE interface into any new computer. That double-whammy makes it unrewarding for drive manufacturers to continue the production of 7200-RPM PATA drives of the kind you seek for your Powerbook. Nearly all currently-manufactured PATA drives, from the smallest (40GB) to the largest (250GB) units, spin at 5400 RPM, and they are all substantially faster, quieter and cooler-running than the old 4200-RPM drive that was original equipment in your Tibook. Buy one soon, because in the relatively near future you can reasonably expect all PATA drives to become much scarcer. SATA is already dominant, and will become more so as most of the notebook computers in current use reach end-of-life over the next two or three years.
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IMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2010) - CPU and Optical drive fans rev up to 4000 rpm

Hello,
I just want to share my experience with my rather new Imac
I bought this Imac last April and I had the fans roaring after 2 weeks of light usage. I followed instructions like resetting the SMC, unplugging the imac and restarted.
However, I started installing other software like Paragon NTFS, VLC, Firefox and also Istat nano. This happened on a more regular basis and istat nano was showing up fairly normal temperatures - an average of 50° C and I had the CPU fan at 3800 and the Optical drive fan at 4200 rpms. According to apple support, at this temperature fans should be running at factory level or a bit more. Even when I stop all activity, the fans keep up and does not stop even after a couple of hours of inactivity on the imac. Apple support recommended that I reinstall macos on a new partition and run tests and during the tests, the only software I installed was istat nano and still got the fans going with the same result - required a shutdown to bring fans at normal levels and yet average temperatures were around 50 - 55 °C.
Eventually got apple to replace heat sensors - this did not help - still got the same unwanted result, fans reving up to 4000 rpm and not stopping and all that without going above 60°C. I was at the stage to demand a complete replacement but decided to give it another couple of weeks testing.
Last test, a complete reinstall of the OS and this time, without any other software apart from standard software delivered with the mac. Ran a few things like importing over 10,000 pictures with iphoto and some other stuff to increase activity - overall CPU usage was at 5% idle for a good few hours and could not reproduce the problem (istat nano was not installed, so I could not monitor temperature). I started installing Paragon NTFS for mac and ran the same scenarios and still no fans going crazy - putting my hands over the top of the imac, can feel a slight breeze...).
Installed other software such as VLC and Firefox 5.0 but still no istat nano and same high activity, import high volumes in iphoto and also did an empty secure thrash to increase load. CPU usage was to 95 again and still fans are behaving properly.
One thing that comes to my mind with istat nano is that, when the fans get going, the ambient value change to -140 - I do not want to rush into any conclusion but is it possible that there is some interference between istat nano and those new sensors that have come in with Imac mid 2010 (from reading mac forums, Apple has added a new ambient sensor..). Because all the time I have been reinstalling the OS, I have always installed istat nano to monitor temperature and fan speed and I always got this issue. But since yesterday, I have installed clean OS, tested, added some 3rd party software but still no istat nano and I canot reproduce the issue. I have been using the same scenario during all this testing - very high import with iphoto, viewing a film, empty secure thrash, enough to use up to 95% CPU.
Has anyone experienced this? I hope this is the cause of my problem because this mac is making my life easier at home compared to previous PC and also, I want to know that my hardware is not at fault...
I will keep you posted if I get the issue again - could be tempted to install istat nano and run the tests to see if the fans will rev up after this but not sure I want to go through another 4 days of just doing this...
regards
Philip

Hey nycbigapple2,
I'd run through the recommended troubleshooting steps for when your iMac runs slowly here:
OS X Mavericks: If your Mac runs slowly
http://support.apple.com/kb/PH13895
Welcome to Apple Support Communities!
Take care,
Delgadoh

Replacing Drive with a 500 gig 5400 RMP Drive

I have a 2008 macbook pro with a 200 gig drive. I would like to replace it with a 500 gig 5400 RMP drive.
Q: Does anyone have any favorites that:
1 - fit inside correctly (some models are the wrong size)
2 -DOES NOT have any of the recent drive firmware issues like:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9815826&#9815826
choices : Hitachi - Western digital - toshiba - samsung - seagate(? problems)

revDAVE:
As far as I can tell the clicking issue is intermittent. If you get one that clicks, you can it exchanged under warranty.
The heat issue in 7200 rpm drives is a question people ask before they install a 7200 rpm HDD. (Incidentally, this question was raised about 5400 rpm drives when going from 4200 rpm drives.) I am not aware of any evidence that the 7200 rpm HDD is significantly hotter than 5400 rpm drives, and, as you may know, the perception of heat is often relative to the user. In any case, I would not worry about a heat issue with a 7200 rpm HDD.
As to which brand to buy, that is a tough call. Be sure that you buy a drive that does not have GForce that will interfere with the MBP's SMS system. Hitachi is usually a safe bet. Seagate makes excellent drives, but some people have complained about issues with the 500 GB HDD. Remember that whatever brand you buy there is a possibility that your drive may be defective. In the final analysis it's your decision.
cornelius

5400 vs 7200

Does a 5400 rpm internal drive work as well as a 7200?

For the kind of data rates that AppleTV needs, a 5400 rpm drive will be more than adequate provided your network streaming works well now - AppleTV officially can only play 5Mbps streams, and I'd imagine most modern 5400 drives would offer well over 10MB/s rates (being quite conservative).
Slower drives will also be slower if you needed to backup a large volume of data to a newer faster drive. Not such a chore with 100Gb of data but once you're nearing the TB levels the extra delay will add up to a few hours perhaps - but personally I feel this is the sort of thing you can do with the machine unattended when you go out/to work/overnight etc., as it will still take hours with a large volume of data regardless.
When I choose external drives my main criteria are usually a balance of:
1 - cost per GB - if it ticks the other boxes I see no need to pay more/GB
2 - is it big enough/fast enough for the job in question
3 - design/looks - some devices are butt ugly or take up too much room (is there a power switch if you don't want it on all the time?)
4 - brand - tend to go for WD, Seagate, Samsung drives (I avoid Maxtor and Hitachi/IBM - as I've previously had failures but that's anecdotal). I also like minimalist Freecom units with black Alu cases.
5 - avoid known lemons from reading user reviews - any drive might fail as they're mechanical, but occasionally some makes/models/batches are just more prone to it
If using more than 1 external drive design becomes important or everything looks a mess. The older upright Seagate (brown/amber light) devices I have look ugly but work well, but they could be a bit more stable - bought a new 1TB Segate the other day and cost cutting has really taken place and I wouldn't risk trying to have it stand upright as the stand is so flimsy. Case is thin and it's much noisier too. My current preference is the black WD MyBook devices which look smart and can be stood side by side, however my local PC World seems to be cycling away from WD over to Seagate again. (Many of these are 7200 rpm devices).
Bottom line, 5400 rpm will be fine for AppleTV, make sure you have enough capacity - you will need more eventually though.
The AppleTV hard drive is probably only a 4200 rpm speed btw.

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