24p assets confused

I'm confused and the documentation doesn't help much.
Source clip is 1080/24p *.mov in AIC.
Now I want to create a HD DVD where the original 24p clip is preserved. I understand DVD has to be tagged as either PAL or NTSC so the player knows whether to telecine the original 24p to NTSC or speed it up to PAL when the player outputs the interlaced signal. (this requirement is kind of old as most new players and HD TV can handle the original 24p).
In HD-DVD/PAL or NTSC project no problem, the clip shows up as 23.98 fps in asset window, and 25fps or 29.97fps respectively in asset inspector.
Per documentation, 24 fps QuickTime assets will be re-encoded and will not longer be 24p when you build the project.
Question 1. How is it done? Will the original 24p be preserved, in case of PAL just simply labeled now as 25p (i.e. clip playback sped up 4%) or will they attempt to preserve clip duration by manufacturing some extra frames?
In case of NTSC will there simply be a flag telling the player this is 24p material so telecine in on the fly, or will they write telecined footage to the disk.
Documentation suggests that in order to preserve 24p material, one should import 24p assets in MPEG-2 (that would indicate that the answer to the first question is, no we do preserve the original 24p media).
Well I transcoded the original QT clip in Compressor to 24fps/MPEG-2 asset, and it shows as such in QT inspector. (there is no Compressor option to select either NTSC or PAL flagging in the output contrary to what DVD Studio documentation implies).
Well that clip can be imported into NTSC project but not PAL (presumably because it is quietly labeled as NTS). What I don't understand now is:
Q2: why this clip is labeled now as 29.97 fps in both assets and asset inspector window? That would imply that the original 24p will not be preserved and DVD studio will write the actual 29.97fts stream to the disk. Correct?
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If you give DVDSP a 24p QuickTime movie (an .mov file), your second guess is correct: DVDSP's internal encoder adds 3:2 pulldown into the resulting file to create a telecined, 29.97 MPEG-2 video stream.
If you provide DVDSP with a Compressor-encoded 24p MPEG-2 file (an .m2v file) DVDSP sees that as a 29.97 non-drop frame stream because DVD-Video (for NTSC) must be playable as 29.97, so, yes, Compressor simply adds flags that tell the DVD player where to add 3:2 pulldown during playback. DVDSP, like a DVD player, reads those flags upon import but the video stream - as you've determined by playing it in QT - is still 23.98 fps.
This is extremely confusing, I admit, because the manual adds to the confusion - it's flat out wrong, if memory serves - but trust me, if you're looking to maintain 24p playback, using Compressor-encoded assets is the way to go.

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    The asset acquisition is posted after the receipt of the invoice. You posted the invoice as an open item to a clearing account, and now you need to clear this entry. If the clearing account used is an open item account, when you post the acquisition, you can manually clear the posting to the clearing account (vendor invoice) at the same time (transfer with clearing). The corresponding transaction allows you to select all open items, per clearing account (account type S for General Ledger account) according to varying criteria.
    Cash Discount:When posting an asset acquisition integrated with Accounts Payable, your choice of document type determines whether you post gross (without cash discount deducted) or net (with cash discount deducted).
    When you use a document type for net posting, the system determines the cash discount deduction automatically by means of the specified terms of payment, and capitalizes the invoice amount on the fixed asset, minus sales tax and cash discount.
    During the payment run, differences may arise between the amount paid and the capitalization amount, because too little or too much cash discount was deducted. In this case, make adjustments to the APC using collective processing in the General Ledger (General Ledger->Periodic processing->Closing->Regroup-> Prof.segment adjstmt).
    When you post an asset acquisition without integration with Accounts Payable, you have to capitalize the actual APC amount (without cash discount being deducted) to the asset. In this case, the cash discount is treated only on the vendor side.
    Acquisition with Value Adjustments:You can post gross acquisitions, if you want to post assets that not only have APC, but also have value adjustments already. In order to use this option, set the gross acquisition indicator in the transaction type you use. The system then permits you to enter APC and accompanying value adjustments when you post the acquisition using the transaction under Postings ->Miscellaneous.
    Hope I had been able to help you. Pleaae assign points.
    Rgds
    Manish

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