790xt-g45 Cannot change vcore

Hey, I have a 790xt-g45 with a Phenom II 965 in the socket... I'm trying to oc to 3.8ghz, but it's unstable... so I figured I'd up the vcore... but there is only one place where I can find it, and I can't change the values! I flashed to 1.4, still nothing... they're stuck at auto... any ideas?

Please describe your system, and don't forget the PSU.
Make sure the processor is fully recognised.
There might be an "Auto" somewhere in BIOS that need be changed to "Manual", that is usually the problem.

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