ACE - ICMP Client --- Server VLAN

I am still trying to get the idea why it is not possible to get some ICMP replys from the ALIAS of the server VLAN when requesting the echo coming from the client side.
The ICMP and also the traceroute works great with the inspection of ICMP for RSERVER -> Server VLAN -> Client VLAN -> OUT.
The problem or issue is only when you try to get echo replys from the Server VLAN Alias and it's according ip and peer ip addresses.
Funny thing is one of the interface addresses answers. In a context A it is the "ip address" and in a context B it is the "peer ip address".
Kind off questions my sanity here. :)
My inspection rules are applied to the client vlan's or transfer network interfaces whatever view you prefer and work so far as intended.
Any idea Gilles?
Roble

I see, but i also have the same beahvior when routing inside a context.
Have a look at context "Test" config. It has a client side vlan (444) and a server side vlan (555).
The communication path for my ping looks like below.
MyWorkstation <-> L3 Device <-> Context Test (Vlan 444) <-> Context Test (Vlan 555) -> ip, peer ip, alias
As you can see i am staying inside the context test just passing the packet coming from the vlan 444 to an ip address inside vlan 555. So this should work.
I am not talking about following communication path which can't work regarding you're statement above.
Context Admin (Vlan 444) <-> Context Test (Vlan 444) <-> Context Test Vlan (555)-> ip, peer ip, alias
Roble

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