Advanced use of Smart Playlists: Union of two playlists

I know how to make the intersection of two playlist into one using the smart playlist, but i'm looking for make the union of two playlist using this... The logical 'and' is easy to implement but I cannot find the way to set the logical 'or'. The example that lead me to this question is the following:
I wanna create a list called 'Trending', composed by the songs which:
1. have being included in the last four weeks.
2. its playcount is up to or more than five.
(this playlist has been already created as it's really easy to do -merely intersection-)
OR (and here is the problem)
1. are in a determinated playlist (in this case is a common playlist where i put songs i rediscovered in my library)
2. its playcount is at least one.
(this playlist is also created)
The outcome would be a cool playlist giving you the songs that are trending for one (new song listened more than five times) or another (a song you want to 'rescate') reason for you in that moment.
So the problem can be simplified to if it's possible to set the union of two playlists.
Thanks!

Do you mean using a Smart Slice for reporting purposes? They don't mean anything with the contexts of Planning forms, unless you mean planning with a small "p".
If you're talking about Hyperion Planning, the access you provide on a form for the POV and even the members in the rows and columns act as a kind of Smart Slice. Even in Planning ad-hoc mode, I don't believe you have access to members that aren't defined in the form itself -- it's always a subset. Would that meet your requirement?
It would be beyond awesome for Planning to support Essbase METAREAD filter functionality, as it would limit Planners to their Planning access. As that still isn't the case, I can definitely see the utility of having Planners go against a Smart Slice for their data as you could tailor the access so that the Essbase ad-hoc matched Planning.
The problem with the above approach is that you'd have to create as many Smart Slices as there are Planners, assuming each Planner had different access. That would get confusing, and maintenance intensive, pretty quickly.
Could you perhaps create a handful of Smart Slices and have different Planner groups connect to them? I'm not sure how you'd stop one group connecting to the "wrong" Smart Slice. I am pretty sure, even with 11.1.2, that there is no Smart Slice provisioning. Although it would be nice.
You can also have Planning Smart Slices (I have never used it) although I can't say I really see the utility of it if the only purpose is to restrict access. I guess you could use it to bring some of the controls in but I wonder whether you wouldn't just do that in Essbase. It is nice to have choices, however.
Regards,
Cameron Lackpour

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It'd make more sense to change all the intermediary playlists to include the rule "Rating *is not* 1 star". That way zero star songs can be played as well as anything two stars or higher, but songs you've rated as bad will be removed next time you sync up.
Thanks for pointing that out.

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unhappypeople wrote:
I can still put songs in so at least that's something.
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Hi Simon,
Missed this thread the first time around.. As Chris says this isn't something that you can pick up with a smart playlist. In principle I could write a script that runs through every track in a selection and notices when the same combination of track number, disc number, album title and album artist comes up. A second pass would then add every track from each affected album to a regular playlist for you to go through and fix up.
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