AG-DVX100B footage locked as 4:3 Letterboxed?

I have footage from a job shot on AG-DVX100B's 16:9 24p.
I noticed when I play the tapes back on my SONY DSR-11 deck the footage plays 4:3 Letterboxed.
Does this mean the cams were set to record as 4:3 letterbox as opposed to 16:9 anamorphic?
I'm guessing if I had playback through the AG-DVX100B it would still output as 4:3 Letterboxed?
Thanks

The dvx has three aspect settings: normal letterbox and squeeze. It sounds like the cam was set for letterbox rather than squeeze.
If it was anamorphic, you'd see it as squeezed on a regular monitor, or proper 16x9 on a widescreen capable monitor.
Sounds like somebody made a boo-boo.

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