Aggressive Load Balancing Per SSI

Hey team,
I was looking through some docs but couldn't find out "WHEN" aggressive load balancing would be available per SSID on a WLC.  Does anyone have any feedback on this particular topic?  We have some legacy clients and we want to segregate them via WLAN and have the feature available when necessary without supplicants etc.
Thanks in advance!
bigjess

Hi bigjess,
Available as of 6.0.188.0 with 6.0.196.0 being the current maintenance release.
See http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/controller/release/notes/crn6_0_188.html#wp598887
-Matt

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    AMR is on target. In fact I just completed 20 hours worth of testing with variuos clients with ALB for a white paper I am doing. Code 17 isnt honored by most clients and is only sent 1 time from the AP. The clients will contiue to attempt to associate to the AP and the AP will allow them on.
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    You can enable aggressive load balancing and change the thresholds on the fly. These will not require you to reboot the wlc. High density can vary depending on the applications the users are using. Cisco recommends around 15 to 20 per access point, but that is not a hard number. Aggressive load balancing can help or not help, it is something you have to enable and see how the users are affected by the change.

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  • Load Balancing per packet not working properly

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    Total Denial Sent................................ 14067 messages
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    None 5G Candidate Count.......................... 8215 times
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    https://supportforums.cisco.com/message/3121939#3121939
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  • WLC Load Balancing Threshold

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    In the group of access points accessible to a client device, each access point has a different number of client associations. The access point with the lowest number of clients has the lightest load. The client window size plus the number of clients on the access point with the lightest load forms the threshold. Access points with more client associations than this threshold is considered busy, and clients can associate only to access points with client counts lower than the threshold.
    Option 1
    The formula shown is correct (load-balancing window + client associations on AP with highest load = load-balancing threshold). If so, this would mean that if you had a window size of 5 and the AP with the highest load at the time of calculation was 15, the threshold would be 18. However, as no APs have 18 associations then this threshold would never be reached. Even if an AP reach 18 associations, the next client trying to associate would trigger another calculation for the threshold which would be 21 (3 + 18) and so still, this threshold would never be hit.
    Option 2
    The description in the paragraph below is correct (The access point with the lowest number of clients has the lightest load. The client window size plus the number of clients on the access point with the lightest load forms the threshold). This sounds much more sensible to me. In this case, the window size was 3 and the AP with the lowest number of associations already had 7 clients associated, the load balancing threshold would be 10 i.e. no load balancing would occur until a client tried to associate with an AP which already had at least 10 clients associated.
    Option 3
    I have seen many descriptions on forums etc of the load balancing threshold being essentially the Client window size, i.e. if the client window size is 3 then load balancing will kick in when a client tries to associate to an AP with at least 3 clients already associated. This doesnt match the above documentation unless the AP with the least number of clients associated doesnt have any associated clients i.e. 0 clients.
    Questions
    I think Option 2 is the correct description of load balancing and the formula given stating use of the AP with the highest load is a typo (albeit still not corrected in the latest documentation). Am I correct?
    The problem with using the option 2 method of calculating the load threshold is that you will be unnecessarily performing load balancing in an environment where some of your APs do actually have zero clients associated, unless you set the window size to somehing close to 10.
    I read here http://www.perihel.at/wlan/wlan-wlc.html#aggressive-load-balancing that when calculating the load threshold, it only accounts for the 8 'best' APs for a given client. In other words, if you have 60 APs on your campus but only 20 are visible to the client, the controller will only perform its load threshold calculations bases on the 8 APs which have the best signal to the client. This would ,ake sense as there is no point setting a load threshold based on the lightest loaded AP which is not even within 'reach' of the client. Is this correct as I can not find any other documentation which supports this?
    Thanks in advance for your help with this.

    Interesting, the config guide contradicts itself in the same paragraph.....    I thought maybe we had two different documents with different explanations.  I don't see any open documentation bugs asking to correct this, but I swear I've heard discussion on this in the past.......
    First off:  Option #3 was the "old way". I think it changed in 6.0.    If you had a threshold of 5, then as soon as you had 5 clients on an AP it would reject the association (3 times and then let them on the 4th attempt).  Now its a sliding window/scale.
    Option #1 I think is completely wrong. As you described, how in the world would you ever surpass the threshold if the highest AP + the window is what you have to beat to load-balance....?    RIght, that just doesn't make any sense to me.....
    Option #2, the way you explain it is correct to my understanding...
    Your question #3 is also correct (not sure if it is Top 8 or based on an RSSI threshold though.)
    The idea is that you don't want some AP in a remote office with 0 clients being your starting point.   So I believe that it is based on the top X candidate for your client.    If your client has 4 viable candidates (lets just say -70 or better), and one of those APs has 5 clients and the rest have 15, I'd expect loadbalancing to try to get you to the 5 client AP if your window size was ~10......  something like that anyhow... 

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