AI CS4/CS5 Font selection sections

Hello,
I'd like to ask if there is any information available on how are the fonts in font selection dialog ordered - they are obviously grouped by script - latin, chinese, japanese, korean etc. What is the precise order of the groups? Is this order the same on every system(what if there are no fonts for a specific group installed) ?
+ Is there a possibility to swtich not just "English names" of Asian fonts, but to have both like seen in Indesign ?
thanks,
Alexander

Hello Mike,
can you perhaps answer the first query?
What is the precise order of the groups? Is this order the same on every system(what if there are no fonts for a specific group installed) ?
thanks,
Alexander

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