Alternate Lot Sizing for KMAT (configurable) materials

Hi friends,
We are using KMAT(configurable) materials.
During MPS/MRP run, SAP plans KMAT production with Lot-to-Lot production(EX) by default!
We have some capacity planning situations, due to which, we need the lot sizing options like u2018Fixed lot (FX) sizeu2019 or u2018Fixed lot size with splitting(FS)u2019 or even use of u2018Min-Max lot sizeu2019... so that the large requirements are transferred in smaller lots to the plant.
But, when we use any of these lot- sizing procedures in MRP1 screen of the material master, we do not find any difference in MRP resultsu2026 system just triggers the planned order exactly matching the Sales order quantity (as if we still use EX)!
SAP notes 437098 and 724235 hint that the alternate lot sizing procedures are possible to set up for configurable materials... but we are struggling to crack this.
If any of you have had an opportunity to work on alternate or custom lot sizing procedures with KMAT (configurable) materials, it would be wonderful to hear the suggestions and results.
Thanks in advance.
Best Regards,
Senthil

Hi Dario,
Thanks for the response.
We use ECC6.0; I could not find the inidicator you've referred (customer requirement)... in transaction OMI4 : Check Lot Sizing Procedure --> MRP Lot Size...
Kindly advise if you were referring to any other version or any other transaction...
Best Regards,
Senthil

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http://scn.sap.com/thread/120144
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