Anamorphic resizing to 4x3?

Hello all,
I am having to resize some footage shot (accidentally, me bad) in anamorphic mode for a documentary I am doing in 4x3. It was shot on a Panasonic PV-GS400, and from what I can tell it is actually recorded that way (I thingk some camcorders fake it). I know I can uncheck anamorphic at the item level in FC but it looks a bit squished. Is this the cleanest way to remedy this screwup?
thanks, nils

larsnils wrote:
Is this the cleanest way to remedy this screwup?
thanks, nils
Unfortunately not if you are mixing it with other material with the similar images and it will be very clear that the material is distorted.
When you recorded the material as anamorphic, you changed the way the image was recorded. Unchecking the anamorphic box simply tells FCP to interpret the footage in the wrong way.
You have two options.
1. insert the footage into the 4:3 footage and live with letterboxing.
2. increase the size (either 112% or 133% - I forget which one) in the timeline which will cut off the sides while filling the vertical dimension of the screen.
Option 1 may look funky switching from 4:3 to 16:9 and back. Option 2 will look pixelated and somewhat blurry as you are blowing up the footage beyond what DV can usually tolerate gracefully.
Some people report good luck using Compressor to uprez and crop the footage instead of doing it within FCP.
good luck.
x

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