Appc does not compile JSPs under WEB-INF

Hi,
          We are using WLS 8.1 and I noticed that appc does not compile jsps that are
          under WEB-INF. Is this expected? If the jsps are outside of WEB-INF then
          appc works fine...
          Thanks!
          John

Although the client is not allowed to directly access jsps under WEB-INF, it
          is perfectly acceptable (and often recommended) to use a front controller to
          forward to jsps. Often these jsps are "hidden" in the WEB-INF directory so
          that they can't be accessed directly by the client. This pattern works fine
          under 8.1 except that appc won't precompile the jsps under WEB-INF (the
          container does compile the jsps when they are called). I believe this is a
          bug... If jsps are allowed in WEB-INF then appc should compile them...
          John
          "Stjepan Brbot" <stjepan.brbot@@zg.hinet.hr> wrote in message
          news:[email protected]...
          > Yes, this is expected! Web container, or better to say it's web component,
          > does not serve content of WEB-INF directory directly mening you cannot
          > access jsp inside WEB-INF like
          http://host:port/WebApp/WEB-INF/something.jsp
          > hence there's no need for compiling JSP's in it! The content of WEB-INF
          > directory can be accessed only via internal links so it is mostly used for
          > referencing taglibs. JSPs, HTMLs, images and all other file type that has
          to
          > be accessible directly by client web-server (not container internally)
          > should be in application directory or one of it's subdirectories.
          >
          > "John Hampton" <[email protected]> wrote in message
          > news:[email protected]...
          > > Hi,
          > >
          > > We are using WLS 8.1 and I noticed that appc does not compile jsps that
          > are
          > > under WEB-INF. Is this expected? If the jsps are outside of WEB-INF
          then
          > > appc works fine...
          > >
          > > Thanks!
          > > John
          > >
          > >
          >

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[weblogic 8.1-sp4] taglibs not allowed any other place then under WEB-INF?

i pack my application as EAR with several skinny WARs + JAR libs under "lib" directory of EAR (and ofc WARs have their manifest adjusted to point to those). standard.jar is also there, no web.xml definition of the taglibs.
when i deploy the EAR, any of the JSPs throw famous IOException: "cannot resolve 'http://java.sun.com/jstl/core' into a valid tag library".
i dug a bit and saw people mention that TLDs are scanned for only when they are placed under WEB-INF of a WAR (hence you suck when your TLDs are somewhere else like "/lib" in my case) and classpath has nothing to do with that. is it true and what can be done to avoid it?
ps.
to clarify: servlets 2.3; jstl 1.0; jsp 1.2
Edited by: [email protected] on Dec 8, 2008 6:33 PM

well placing 10 taglib definitions in each web.xml is imho a bad idea. as there's no real way to exclude all but certain JARs from a WAR using maven (the ideal solution i'd prefer), the solution i had to choose was to set maven-dependency-plugin up the way it would extract the TLDs from certain JARs and place it anywhere under WEB-INF of the WAR when it's assembled. the cons is that TLDs are duplicated, but on the other hand the configuration for that is minimal (which also seems important to me).

JAR files under WEB-INF but not in lib directory

I am working with JDeveloper 10g and I have several jar files under WEB-INF/lib and other under WEB-INF/libEst.
I have add this libraries to Project properties > Paths and it works fine when I run my aplication in local environment, but it fails when I deploy and run in the server.
I have configured our deploy file to include these WEB-INF/libEst jar files, but when I deploy to our server, it seems to be that this classes included in these jar files are not reachable and they cannot be loaded and throw a ClassNotFoundException.
Is it possible to have jar files under any WEB-INF subdirectory distinct of /lib?
Why is it working in local but not in server?
If someone can help me to configure this in order to deploy in server, I will be very grateful.
Thanks a lot,
Antonio.

Hi Antonio,
I think this document is what you are looking for: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/oc4j/htdocs/how-to-servlet-warmanifest.html
.. your manifest entries would look like
Class-Path: WEB-INF/libExt/<jarName1>.jar, WEB-INF/libExt/<jarName2>.jar, ...
Let me know if this works for you.
thanks,
Harsha

Appc does not compile JSPs under WEB-INF

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