Apply grep style only once

I can't get my brain around what is probably a very simple problem: I want a paragraph style that applies boldfacing to any character up to an including the first colon in a paragraph. If I used a nested style "through 1 :" the whole graf is bold if there is no colon. So that's out.
A grep style ".+: " seems to work in most cases, but if there's a second colon, the boldfacing is extended to that point. What I think I want is a grep style that works "zero or 1 times" but I cannot figure out how to use the ? to make that happen.

@Jongware – I think Robert wants to limit the GREP style to the first line of a paragraph.
But unfortunately GREP in InDesign does not know about line endings.
In scripting we could do something like what he wants, but comes with some obstacles, because the GREP will apply a character style, that will probably change the line ending. A very dynamic situation…
Example 1
Basic situation:
This is my text here comes the colon: and
here another one: that Robert don't like
to take into account using the GREP style.
Formatted after the GREP style is applied:
This is my text here comes the colon: and
here another one: that Robert don't like
to take into account using the GREP style.
As I understand it, in case that the first colon will leave line one, only the first line should be formatted like this:
(Case 1)
This is my text here comes the first
colon: and here another one: that
Robert don't like to take into account
using the GREP style.
Or should it be, that the style should only be applied, if it's in the first line?
(Case 2):
This is my text here comes the first
colon: and here another one: that
Robert don't like to take into account
using the GREP style.
But what, if the colon in the basic case is at the end of line 1 and will be shifted to line 2 after formatting?
What should happen then?
That is simply not possible to format automatically (dynamically) using GREP styles in InDesign.
Uwe

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